slowdive: classic or dud?

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Now I get the whole classic or dud thing because I started my first thread.

I have most of that Moose stuff up on slsk, same user name. I also had a request for some EP’s so Liquid Eye Makeup and Baby It’s Over have been added but only for a limited time. I also dug into my Boo Radleys singles, again because of requests. Usually only on at night, California time. That Moose news is fantastic and made my day.

I can see staying away from Slowdive related stuff, as far as questions are concerned, but have always wondered what happened to that drummer? I caught them live a few times and he was insane, always blew me away.

― BeeOK (BeeOK), Sunday, 28 November 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The drummer stayed on in Mojave 3, I'm not sure if he's still with them though.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 28 November 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm listening to "I Saw the Sun" now (thanks for the heads up, Baaderonixxx) and -- to the surprise of no one on this thread -- it's quite good. Particularly "Silver Screen". It's very much in the style of "Machine Gun" and would have fit in very well on "Souvlaki".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 28 November 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to this all w-e. 'Untitled #2' ("I thought I saw you") could well already be one of my fave Slowdive song.

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Sunday, 28 November 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been so ridiculously slow in listening to all those demos -- I've got 'em around but have only heard a few.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 November 2004 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

but have always wondered what happened to that drummer?

do you mean simon scott? dude who went on to front Inner Sleeve?

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 29 November 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll just reiterate what others have said - Moose! Fantastic! A new album? Even more fantastic!

Anyway, back to Slowdive. Isn't there a double CD on Sanctuary coming out in the very near future? According to the NME review it's got their first Peel session on it, which would be nice, but probably not a lot of rarities other than that. But still, better than nothing.

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 29 November 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

but have always wondered what happened to that drummer? I caught them live a few times and he was insane, always blew me away.

I never thought he was in Mojave 3.

http://www.creation-records.com/news/index.html

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Not a direct link, you have to look around for the Scott Simon interview.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:32 (nineteen years ago) link

You left before the Pygmalion album, what were your reasons for leaving?

- Neil was taking so much time writing and he moved to London so the rest of us were stuck in Reading frustrated. We weren’t allowed to contribute and I wanted to keep playing music and wrote songs so I moved on.

- I recently saw Nick and Christian and they said they wished they’d left when I went as I believe it all went stale. But I hold no grudges and would definitely like to see them all again. Christian has already been down to see Televise play live so hopefully the others will make it to a show.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 25 March 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only Souvlaki and a handful of Pygmalion-era mp3s (but I've heard the EPs and that early flexi thanks to that one wonderful website containing them all) and from that I deem them utterly classic.

― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Friday, 25 March 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Guy I was talking to tonight on a music journalist list I'm on is writing liner notes for the reissues of the three albums -- yes, there will be bonus tracks, including Peel Session cuts...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

how about the beach song flexi?

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Mebbe. I might point him to this thread...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't wait to just tell people to go and buy pygmalion!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

AH WHEN!?

― Googley Asearch (Toaster), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Will check.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Answer is actually pretty soon, November it seems!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It's about time for the shoegazing revival, isn't it?

― John Hunter, Thursday, 29 September 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

you betcha!!

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i've got some pygmallion studio outtakes. they're like rough versions of the songs that are quite fun to listen to. are these in common circulation?

btw, so classic.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Release date for the reissues is Nov. 14, 2005.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/026-8440101-3609249

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

link doesn't work but is up on Amazon UK.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i note the first two are double discs

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

these are the tracks on JFAD disc 2

1.Slowdive
2.Avalyn 1
3.Avalyn 2
4.Morning Rise
5.Morning Rise
6.She Calls
7.Losing Today
8.Holding Our Breath
9.Golden Hair
10.Shine
11.Albatross
12.Catch The Breeze (Peel Session)
13.Song 1 (Peel Session)
14.Golden Hair (Peel Session).

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm i think there's an error in that list (probably one of the morningrises should be catch the breeze)

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

So that's Blue Day basically

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh good. I no longer have to track down those early eps.

― JC (JC A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yay!

is pygmalion getting reissued too?

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Better sell my copy of Pygmalion on eBay pronto.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I got those 3 original EPs on vinyl in Montreal many moons ago for 3 bucks each! Think they're even semi-valuable?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 7 October 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay! I wish they'd just sell that second disc by itself!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 October 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

they were until now (xpost)

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Do I still have time to sell my Souvlaki + Blue Day combo?

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

THEY'RE WORSE THAN HITLER!

― richey manic (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Urgh - according to Pfork the Souvlaki reissue will just have the bonus tracks of the old US version, while Pygmalion will have none... I was hoping that all those 'I saw the Sun' boot demos would finally get a proper release...

― Baaderonixx says DANCE!! TAKE A CHANCE!!! are you ready for... TRUE ROMANCE (baa, Monday, 7 November 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, some slowdive fansite i was reading last week has the souvlaki reissue with add'l bonus tracks - the b-sides from the Outside Your Room EP, the In Mind remixes, and the one additional track they left off the US release from the 5EP

but so far i've yet to see this confirmed.

does anyone know if these are remastered? that would be a good thing, especially for JFAD

― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 7 November 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Can someone confirm or deny the story I read that Oasis refused to sign to Creation until they fired Slowdive from the roster?

― owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually the Pfork article lists more than the bonus tracks on my US version of Souvlaki. My old US version just has Some Velvet Morning, Good Day Sunshine, Missing You, and Country Rain added. Following are the track lists from Pfork for those interested:

Just For A Day:

Disc 1:
01 Spanish Air
02 Celia's Dream
03 Catch the Breeze
04 Ballad of Sister Sue
05 Erik's Song
06 Waves
07 Brighter
08 The Sadman
09 Primal

Disc 2:
01 Slowdive
02 Avalyn 1
03 Avalyn 2
04 Morningrise
05 She Calls
06 Losing Today
07 Golden Hair
08 Shine
09 Albatross
10 Catch the Breeze (Peel Session)
11 Song 1 (Peel Session)
12 Golden Hair (Peel Session)

Souvlaki:

Disc 1:
01 Alison
02 Machine Gun
03 40 Days
04 Sing
05 Here She Comes
06 Souvlaki Space Station
07 When the Sun Hits
08 Altogether
09 Melon Yellow
10 Dagger

Disc 2:
01 Some Velvet Morning
02 So Tired
03 Moussaka Chaos
04 In Mind
05 Good Day Sunshine
06 Missing You
07 Country Rain
08 In Mind (Bandulu Mix)
09 In Mind (Reload Mix)

Pygmalion:

01 Rutti
02 Crazy gor You
03 Miranda
04 Trellisaze
05 Cello
07 Visions of La
08 Blue Skied An' Clear
09 All of Us

So, assuming these are accurate, what's missing?

― matt2 (matt2), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

oh muhfckinhaleyes! i love slowdive.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"Alison" is a classic song, and I love it dearly, but I honestly can't remember one note from anything else. It just never stuck in my brain, but I feel like I should love them. They're the only prominent shoegaze group that I don't adore.

― James Morris (HorrayJames), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

all the best stuff is on the JFAD bonus disc

i think ill just keep my US Souvlaki version

― splates (splates), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

they didn't put the Sunday flexi songs on any of them? slowdive rocking out!

― keyth (keyth), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i love Avalyn I

― splates (splates), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, one of my favorite songs ever and it always conjures such a very specific time of my life (ie. May 1994)

― Baaderonixx says DANCE!! TAKE A CHANCE!!! are you ready for... TRUE ROMANCE (baa, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

no bonus junk for pygmalion?

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone know if there are there plans to release the new CDs with bonus tracks in the US? Amazon only has the remastered ones as imports:

here's one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000BJRJAO/

all the CDs they have by slowdive:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=music-artist&field-artist=Slowdive

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So has anyone heard any of the re-issues? I have all the stuff on the bonus discs, so I'm wondering if the remastering job makes them worth my money.

― Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

How much do you really care about sonic profile? They sound a little more full and more dynamic, as usual, but it's not as if there's much keeping the originals from the way they were presumably meant to sound -- not a whole lot that was asking to be "fixed."

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I NEED MORE GAUZE DAMMIT

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

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