Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

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Sanity prevails and Murmur is recognized as REM's finest hour. I don't have a single nit to pick with that placement.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope no one is offended by it, I thought that by quoting him here I would pay a small tribute to him, since he had so much love especially for 80s music.

(xxx-post)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I think he would've loved it. I was taken aback the 1st time I saw it as it came as a surprise but then i realised why you had done it and I thought it was a great touch. Because I just couldn't imagine an 80s poll without him, so i really like the fact he's still part of it. I don't know if he could've limited himself to just 30 albums though haha

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope he's sitting on a cloud right now cursing each album as too low a placing

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Yay, Murmur my #1. (XP:

The ascending/descending bass in the bridge of "Radio Free Europe" alone means more to me than many of the albums on this list.

Four of my top five now in, two of them (Doolittle and Murmur) in the top 10. No hope for _Kilimanjaro_ I imagine!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel bad that I didn't rate Kilimanjaro higher - I had it at #19.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

starting to think maybe The Lion and The Cobra won't be making it in...

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I cut a class to go buy Doolittle the day it came out. I was hugely disappointed. The production job defanged them, and what the f is this "La La Love You"? Or the Stones soundalike "Hey"? Even "Gouge Away" seemed contrived. I sold it soon after in disgust. I was hard to please back then. While it still baffles me why anyone could think it's better than Surfer Rosa, it's grown on me some. Still too flawed to be top 10 though.

― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, December 2, 2009 6:16 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

from a ways back, but wanted to respond.

it's funny cuz i bought doolittle like the week it came out (on cassette) and spent the following month playing it everywhere i went, especially in the car. and i was at the time a HUGE fan of big black and of albini's scathing production on surfer rosa, which i'd been listening to since it came out. and i doolittle to death to bits and pieces from the first time i played it. every song sounded amazing to me, and absolutely perfect, like this series of beautiful miracles that had never before existed, each of which conjured out of the air as i listened. [/hyperbole]

i was kinda embarassed - as a card-carrying killdozer/flipper/melvins/buttholes stan - to so absolutely LOVE something so slick and bright and pop pop pop, but i couldn't help myself. it was, in that moment, the no-holds-barred BEST GODDAM RECORD I'D EVER HEARD. and i love it still (though like somebody said, i almost never want to hear it anymore).

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

ummm, "...i LOVED doolittle to death to bits and pieces..."

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

starting to think maybe The Lion and The Cobra won't be making it in...

Stay strong big man.

DavidM, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Doolittle was actually my introduction to Pixies, though it didn't take me long to work backwards and find Surfer Rosa (and later Come on Pilgrim). When it gets scorned for silly things like Gil Norton's bright, but also kind of boxy, production, or picked apart for being "defanged" or "contrived," I'm just glad I heard it first and was never given a chance to pick out its comparative flaws so early.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

(also, it was #2 on my ballot)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"Silver" popped up on my MP3 player shuffle yesterday. It's not a very typical Pixies tune, but I found myself really getting into it and asking myself what other bands have sounded like that. It reminded me everything from the Keith Richards tune "You Got the Silver" to Duane Eddy surf-rock to an Ennio Morricone spaghetti-western soundtrack - plus it has a great guitar solo - and all in less than 2 and a half minutes.

o. nate, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

True confessions: when Nirvana went huge in 1991 I was all 'ok, Pixies with hard rock vocals, who cares?'

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

happy that murmur and daydream nation placed so high. both big favorites of mine at the time, the music that for me defined the "real 80s" (or at least the real mid-to-late 80s).

can't call DN my favorite sonic youth album, but back then i would have said different. evol kinda crept up on me, but DN blew me away the first time i heard it - just like doolittle (and sister). in part i suppose that's because it's so cohesive compared with their charmingly ramshackle previous records. it seemed like an experience to me, almost like an ordeal - in that sense i guess it did what "double albums" are supposed to do. i used to get SO CRUSHINGLY STONED and listen to it late at night, with the lights out, and watch the little stereo diodes burn in the darkness. it seemed of that technology and of the future in ways that most "futuristic" music (for instance kraftwerk's computer world) didn't. i would pretend that my machines played the record when i was away.

and murmur is great. so easy to hate or dismiss, but so important to me at the time. i didn't get it at first, but listened obsessively, religiously until every song was a hit. and because it was sort of the gateway album for me, since i've listened to it so seldom over the last 20 years, i find it a lot easier to go back to and enjoy than either doolittle or daydream nation. plus the production. if you spend enough time with it, every sound on the record becomes this weird little experience unto itself. and not in a flashy, oversculpted way. it's all very restrained and organic, very little jumped out at me on the first pass. i like that aesthetic: a warm, mossy, puddle of sound that only reveals its depths when you spend some time looking.

nostalgia. makes me wish i'd nominated all night lotus party...

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

my highest ranking album that didn't place is the Pretenders s/t, kinda pissed it got the shaft

Oh shit that should have been on my list too. The second half of that record is incredible

xpost: was that nominated? came out in '79 i'm quite certain

Nope, it was trailed by three '79 singles but the album dropped first week of January '80. It was nominated and I agree it ought to have made the 100. It was #9 in my ballot. Perhaps I should have put it higher instead of wasting loads of points on Yes.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked Doolittle when it came out, especially Debaser. But I didn't really give it much of a chance because it wasn't Daydream Nation. That record blew my 16 year old mind.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i will be your idiot, if you look into my eeeeyyyeeeees

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

instead of wasting loads of points on Yes

Still surprised 90125 wasn't at least in the lower part of the poll.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha! That record was really big back then. I remember being freaked out by the Owner Of A Lonely Heart video, with all the bugs on the dude's face.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

murmur was huge, very important, in my musical experiences at the time. glad to see it place here.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for either Pixies album but they were a huge band for me between the ages of about 17 and 20, I got into them via the Death To... compilation which my brother kindly borrowed from the library on my behalf. I think I prefer Doolittle these days - always been surprised that some people dislike the production, to me it sounds shiny in a good way. I also back-loaded with great songs - No. 13 Baby, Silver, Gouge Away and - especially - Hey.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, so assuming Computer World was our "album x" in the top 10, that means the following are left...

Hounds of Love
It Takes a Nation of Millions
Sign 'o' the Times
Purple Rain
Remain in Light

Is it possible one of these slipped through enough cracks to not place?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

5. Prince - Sign “☮” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/lixnixn/signo.jpg

Prince was my first pop love: boy, was I obsessed with him as a youngster. The Lovesexy tour at Wembley Arena was just unbelievable. I *was* a screaming girlie. 'Parade' and 'Sign O' The Times' are the best two, imo. Not really listened to anything after that crap 'Batman' album. His decline since then has been absolutely heartbreaking for yours truly... all that facial hair nonsense... nearly as bad as George Michael. Where did it all go wrong, my old mucker?

But, still, CLASSIC. At his best, the greatest pop star bar none.

― Johnathan, 11. heinäkuuta 2001 3:00

I think that if "Adore" wasn't on the album I would have a much higher opinion of "Slow Love". But yeah, every song on the album does have something amazing to recommend it.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), 13. lokakuuta 2004 20:39

goddamnit I've got like 80 new (or recently bought) albums to listen to and just when I'm about to crack into it I've got a psycho hankering to put this album on. Like I don't know it by heart already. Yeargh!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), 13. lokakuuta 2004 22:02

Sign 'O' The Times >>>>> any Bowie album ever (and I adore Bowie)

― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 12. huhtikuuta 2009 6:12

there isn't a single note/sound/whatevah on sign o the times that isn't precisely where it should be

― James Blount (James Blount), 11. heinäkuuta 2003 14:46

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Is it weird that I'm disappointed this is only #5?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i always thought that SOTT would come above Purple Rain. (Ok I voted PR>SOTT but still) So now I'm thinking... no, surely, it has to place right?

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ok in the realm of unrealistic predictions i am saying that hounds of love and remain in light didnt make it, and master of puppets and straight out of compton did

NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

nothing against hounds of love, i voted for it

NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought that would be the highest Prince album also, Maybe Purple Rain was overlooked? I voted SOTT and Dirty Mind by the way.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love
It Takes a Nation of Millions
Sign 'o' the Times
Purple Rain
Remain in Light

I voted for none of these.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

wait did straight out of compton already place?

NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

no nwa on the list

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

no license to ill either, which is crazy

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh, my #1 vote followed by my #30... I did think this would place higher than Purple Rain, yeah.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Remain in light and purple rain are locks, Nation of Mil deserves it, but we'll see. Hounds of Love and Compton are not great albums

Fellini.Kuti, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

my long-shot hopeful: Stands for Decibels

Fellini.Kuti, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

this list is pretty similar to pitchfork's list, except pitchfork had more hip hop.

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

It's unlikely that Purple Rain was overlooked (though I wouldn't mind it not being here). I've given up on PG(3) and Tango in the Night, though.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love and Compton are not great albums

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/Chinatown.jpg

Maud Gonne, no WS 1914 candidate (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

SOTT was my number #2. It's one of those canonical "best album by X" choices where it really it really is the best. Everything that makes Prince the biggest popular music genius of the last 30 years is in there: the odd psychosexual politics, the brilliant pop choruses, the left-field experimentation, the androgyny, the maximal in minimalism, the religious imagery, the hard funk and the soft sentimentality. It starts with the words "in France a skinny man died of a big disease with a little name" and ends with "for all time I am with you, you are with me", and everything you can imagine between those two phrases is there.

Listening to it makes me feel there's something that's been largely missing from pop music since the 1980s. Can you imagine one of the biggest stars on the planet releasing a single like "If I Was Your Girlfriend" today? The androgyny, the queerness, it just present in today's pop like it was then. (Maybe this is simply misplaced nostalgia for a time that wasn't really mine, as I was born in 1979?) I think was one of the reasons Prince had such hard time adapting to the 90s. The tougher image that was required during that decade, he tried to do it, but it never really fit. In twenty years we've gained so much, but maybe we've lost something too?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

this list is pretty similar to pitchfork's list, except pitchfork had more hip hop.

Who would have thought?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Stands For Decibels wasn't nominated, the two records after it were.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

amazed that didn't win, so kudos for not having a predictable no 1 after all.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

It was leading the poll for quite a while, I too thought it was gonna win, but then it started going down.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I think that's a decent point, Tuomas xp. It's not just androgyny - Prince was trying to be all things to all people, all the time. That sort of stopped after him for a while. Outkast, Eminem or Justin Timberlake have shown similar ambition since. I've never thought of the 90s as a hard decade though.

I was going to blame MTV or whoever first separated music-for-white-people from music-for-black-people - but maybe it's more that as the music industry got too fat it found it could make good money from a smaller audience, so it was happier to ghettoise its marketing and the acts just responded accordingly.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

this is pretty funky - i am listening to it, prince is good people - and i am only 2 3/4 trax in

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ, pleeeeez get Matos' book on SOTT, it will enhance your listening tremendously and it's not expensive.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i have decided this is an excellent poll for introducing me to things, especially OMD and Prince...maybe I will even 'get' Remain In Light...hmm

For now I'll just immerse myself. I'm liking it! I'm even liking 'It'. Right now. Why does everyone hate that song?

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Who hates It?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

The 'NOOKER' on the Sign ☮ the Times cover, that's presumably a snooker hall, right? Is snooker really the sort of thing that advertises itself in American strip-lighting?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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