Why is Robert Pollard the most underrated songwritter ever?

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Yikes.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I had Mist King Urth and sold it on ebay (I think). "Heavy prog" iirc.

dmr, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Well I've always wanted to hear it bcuz the other Pollard/Gillard duo album, Speak Kindly Of Your Volunteer Fire Department, is better than any GbV album this decade.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

"fether herd" on the mist king urth album is unlike anything else bob's done

kamerad, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Speak Kindly Of Your Volunteer Fire Department, is better than any GbV album this decade.

yep that's why I bought it too. they're not at all similar really.

not saying it's bad per se but when I decided to unload some records I went through my big pile of GBV and related I made a rule that if I couldn't remember how ANY song went on that record it probably deserved the sell pile.

dmr, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"they're" meaning Fire Dept. and Mist King

dmr, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

weird. "fether herd" sounds like guided by voices covering birdsongs of the mesozoic. hard to forget, for me at least

kamerad, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link

jon, why not tower in the fountain of sparks?

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Sadly thats one of the few I don't have. I believe I have a couple tracks from it though. That one and Go Back Snowball are both up there on my list of Pollard releases to buy when I have the cash.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

lol, jesus, that list 00s records. and I've got a lot of them!

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Think the Boston Spaceships records have been my fave of the last few years ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The two songs I have off Tower...Sparks are kind of lame tbh. Both good tunes that go on repeating their material wayyy too long.

Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Slowed down a bit to work on year-end stuff and the holidays, but this project is still definitely moving forward! 2009 actually turned out to be one of my favorite post-GbV years for Pollard!

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

When I made a Pollard mix for a friend, my biggest hangup was putting on a song or two from each album. That's really not the worst approacch - if an album doesn't have a song demanding to be included, then leave it off!

Jouster, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Still working on the project, albeit very very slowly. Mainly bumped this thread to talk about how great the first Pollard of the new decade sounds! Seriously, dude is on a fantastic roll these past two years.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes! I'm behind on the Circus Devils stuff, but the solo stuff and particularly the Boston Spaceships have all been grade A. I like Suitcase 3, too.

Jouster, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I did this a few weeks ago, frustrated by having to sort through umpteen records to get my fix. Agree above w/ difficulty in getting every record represented & gave up after awhile:

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/HadrianVIII/GrayGardens.jpg

1:14:07

01 Brown Submarine 1:22
02 Dancing Girls And Dancing Men 2:40
03 Heavy Crown 2:40
04 Stiff Me 2:17
05 Gratification To Concrete 3:34
06 Penumbra 1:50
07 Rhoda Rhoda 1:52
08 I'm A Widow 3:37
09 Andy Playboy 1:30
10 Shadow Port 2:59
11 Keep Me Down 2:40
12 Symbols And Heads 2:08
13 You Satisfy Me 3:04
14 Conquerer Of The Moon 5:04
15 When A Man Walks Away 1:49
16 I Surround You Naked 2:42
17 Tattoo Mission 2:44
18 Zero Fix 2:44
19 I In The World 2:01
20 The Right Thing 4:30
21 Canned Food Demons 2:08
22 Gasoline Ragtime 1:38
23 Denied 2:36
24 Towers And Landslides 2:01
25 The Original Heart 2:15
26 (All You Need) To Know 3:45
27 Love Is Stronger Than Witchcraft 4:13
28 Nicely Now 1:51

Hadrian VIII, Friday, 19 February 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Love the list Hadrian! I'm still missing a lot of his '00s output, probably close to half.

One song you forgot is "Slow Hamilton," definitely the most melodic song I've heard of the more recent years...

ColinO, Friday, 19 February 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Slow Hamilton is gorgeous. Also, Weatherman and Skin Goddess.

SourPatchCorpse, Friday, 19 February 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

his new dvd is almost enough to cure me of gbv fandom

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Friday, 19 February 2010 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ahem!

Mark G, Friday, 19 February 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Meddle off Zero to 99 is so great. The whole albums really good.

badg, Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I have enjoyed the occasional robbert paulard

All small bassoons have at one time or another been called fagottino (crüt), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda want to make my own Pollard Oughties best-of... which, since I own exactly none of these records, would probably just mean pirating/ripping as many of them as I can, getting super-stoned, throwing everything on shuffle, and deleting every song that doesn't rock my world on the first listen. I'll let you guys know what I end up with.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

came across this recently: http://leatherbagmusic.blogspot.com/2010/05/best-of-robert-pollard.html
haven't listened though! seems like a cool selection.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

wow this is wonderful!

love guided by voices, but i've never really progressed past the big GBV albums cuz honestly digging thru all of pollards stuff seems like such a grind...

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

his first few on matador, not in my airforce and waved out are almost as good as the gbv records he was putting out at the time. his latest one (?) we all got out of the army isn't shabby either

kamerad, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, not in my airforce and waved out are pretty indistinguishable from GBV of that era -- pretty sure those songs were "GBV" songs for all intents and purposes, just that he couldn't put out more than one GBV record a year, or something. They have a lot of the same players. both are pretty essential.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

which one had "subspace biographies"? that song rules

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

that's on Waved Out -- prob one of Pollard's best rockers! starts out awesome, gets better.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like Wire that song, this is a good thing

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

really, tho, at the end of every year, Pollard should just: "didn't buy the six albums I put out this year? Here's a playlist of the best 20 songs" ... I'd buy it. maybe that's totally missing the point, but I do find it hard to keep up.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I've tried listening to his post-GBV stuff, but it really isn't very good

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Of the stuff I've heard, which is prob'ly like 5% or sumthin'!

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno, i always like hearing new stuff by him when I put it on, but after a few listens, I rarely go back to it.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd say that first Boston Spaceships record is probably my fave from the last couple years?

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I've heard tell that's good. Of the other stuff I've heard, songs seem fussy + overcooked, his voice is not what it was, don't like this Todd Tobias guy playing all the instruments.

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it's true -- his voice does seem a little weak these days.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

out of context - but the Owen Pallet cover of Game Of Pricks is really good

Zeno, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to that selection linked above. Holy crap - "First of an Early Go-Getter" sounds like "Hold Your Head High" by Argent!

Darin, Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the owen pallet cover is great -- arthur russell meets GBV. man, "game of pricks" is quite a song isn't it?

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"It Is Divine" off this mix really gives me goosebumps....kinda gets me in that classic GBV ballad way like "14 Cheerleader Coldfront"

m@tt h (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm 4 songs in... songs 2-3 are kinda turkeys. song #4 is awesome though "Frequent Weaver..."

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

okay this mix picks up after an uninspiring start. but then #6 ("Gold") is kinda sucking the wind out of the momentum that had built with #4-5

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

this is great tylerw, thanking u

del griffith, Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert's lyrics may be a bit surreal for mass consumption. That may be one reason. He's really clever. That can be a problem too.

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Really loving the new Boston Spaceships record. I feel like this project has a much better hit-to-miss ratio going for it than the stuff under his own name as of late.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 11 September 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

circle of trim off of tower in the fountain of sparks

pop zeus as well

those two. those are the answer to the thread title question

del griffith, Saturday, 23 October 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

always loved the first track off that tower in the ftn of spark record

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Saturday, 23 October 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hows the new one? Haven't gotten my copy yet. But I am super, super excited by what I read on the (excellent) Wires and Waves blog:

Next month, he releases a new record with former GBV guitarist Doug Gillard under the name Lifeguards, and March will see the release of a collaboration called Mars Classroom, made with the guys from underrated '90s indie-rockers Big Dipper.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link


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