WHAT'S THE BEST POEM OUT OF THESE POEMS 2

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i even posted about 'hip priest' earlier today...i've been on the most indescribably massive MES kick recently

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ok can we use this as a quick nominations thread? i know i've forgotten some. here's as far as i got last time -

- vladimir nabokov, 'bend sinister'
- colin wilson, 'ritual in the dark'
- mailer, 'deer park'
- camus (duh), 'the fall'
- m r james, count magnus
- h p lovecraft, 'the strange case of charles dexter ward'
- luke rhinehart, 'the dice man'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Ape

You haven't finished your ape, said mother to father,

who had monkey hair and blood on his whiskers.

I've had enough monkey, cried father.

You didn't eat the hands, and I went to all the

trouble to make onion rings for its fingers, said mother.

I'll just nibble on its forehead, and then I've had enough,

said father.

I stuffed its nose with garlic, just like you like it, said

mother.

Why don't you have the butcher cut these apes up? You lay

the whole thing on the table every night; the same fractured

skull, the same singed fur; like someone who died horribly. These

aren't dinners, these are post-mortem dissections.

Try a piece of its gum, I've stuffed its mouth with bread,

said mother.

Ugh, it looks like a mouth full of vomit. How can I bite into

its cheek with bread spilling out of its mouth? cried father.

Break one of the ears off, they're so crispy, said mother.

I wish to hell you'd put underpants on these apes; even a

jockstrap, screamed father.

Father, how dare you insinuate that I see the ape as anything

more than simple meat, screamed mother.

Well what's with this ribbon tied in a bow on its privates?

screamed father.

Are you saying that I am in love with this vicious creature?

That I would submit my female opening to this brute? That after

we had love on the kitchen floor I would put him in the oven, after

breaking his head with a frying pan; and then serve him to my husband,

that my husband might eat the evidence of my infidelity . . . ?

I'm just saying that I'm damn sick of ape every night,

cried father.

Russell Edson

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

GamalielRatsey to thread.
In the meantime:

Arthur Machen - The Great God Pan.
Something by Wyndham Lewis - Apes of God? Is anything directly referenced?

Parenthetic hound (woofwoofwoof), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 russell edson

got to see him read in RI about 10 years ago

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

omg that edson is CLASSIC slow-build comic poetry

(dood did ya get mah ilxmail?)

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and Philip Dick, obviously.

There's some Melody Maker thing with Mark Smith's ten cultural artifacts of the moment from like '82 I have a memory of seeing (not in '82) that has two or three specific choices. I can't think if I saw it online or in the liner notes of a reissue or something. Grr.

thomp, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

the Laocooon or Pyrrhus or Hector dream parts alone would've been enough to make this poll rigged from the start

balearific, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

book 2 is the best book, right? anyone wanna bat for 4?

the bit where priam's family is slaughtered is up there but the hector dream possibly wins it, may poll book 2 at some point

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Something by Wyndham Lewis - Apes of God? Is anything directly referenced?

Yes, not Apes, though - 'post office, Rotting Hill' (from their cover of Jingle Bell Rock).

What else, what else. Reckon thomp has it covered. Great God Pan certainly.

Marriage of Heaven and Hell and Jerusalem or rather the intro to Milton by Blake of course (are we doing poems as well?)
Smith quotes The Call of Cthulu at the beginning of The Post Nearly Man, if that counts.

A choice of Dr Faustus representations (I think Smith said he got the idea of the song from some woodcuts or something, a folk version of the tale, so make of that what you will).

Morning of the Magicians is quoted fairly heavily in Before the Moon Falls if my memory serves me right, but you could argue he's just referencing things like the Nine Unknown Men (oh wait - that's Putta Block isn't it), rather than quoting the book itself.

Struggling to think of any more novels tho. I would but I'm stupid busy at the moment, and want to think a bit more about stuff that is mentioned (not to leave out singing 'You keep reading me the Booker Prize' for Book of Lies - oh yes, that's another one -

The Book of Lies - Aleister Crowley. There must be more.

The poems? Oh, um, pass for the moment, need to check out the Rexroth, reread the Virgil, think about Gerard Manley Hopkins AGAIN (he's never quite done it for me, but there are moments when I think he might) and I haven't read A, and possibly think I'm not likely to soon.

Yeats is great, love Browning. More, more - there's always more to read thank God.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 7 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Thread

al leong the watchtower (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

lol @ WAS THERE ANOTHER TROY FOR HER TO BURN

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 May 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link

Troy 2: Wilder Horses

al leong the watchtower (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

can't believe I missed a Stevens discussion.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link

Gotta go Hopkins, all due respect to REDUCING LOAD (nsfw).

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Saturday, 4 May 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

What need you, being come to sense
but fumble in a greasy till

Zing thread 1913 imo

should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 June 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link

lol @ WAS THERE ANOTHER TROY FOR HER TO BURN

why

the bitcoin comic (thomp), Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

^^^

oh i just meant it was a very in character post, obv it's a wonderful poem/line

k3vin k., Sunday, 19 January 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

otm

is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 January 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link

fair enough

the answer is probably the hopkins i guess

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 19 January 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link

my man

lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Monday, 20 January 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Constipated Oppen and the like almost make me angry now. I devoted entirely to much time to this stuff in the past.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 20 January 2014 05:57 (ten years ago) link

I like my objectivists simple-minded: Reznikoff.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 20 January 2014 05:59 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

The day dawns, with scent of must and rain,
Of opened soil, dark trees, dry bedroom air.
Under the fading lamp, half dressed - my brain
Idling on some compulsive fantasy -
I towel my shaven jaw and stop, and stare,
Riveted by a dark exhausted eye,
A dry downturning mouth.

It seems again that it is time to learn,
In this untiring, crumbling place of growth
To which, for the time being, I return.
Now plainly in the mirror of my soul
I read that I have looked my last on youth
And little more; for they are not made whole
That reach the age of Christ.

Below my window the wakening trees,
Hacked clean for better bearing, stand defaced
Suffering their brute necessities;
And how should the flesh not quail, that span for span
Is mutilated more? In slow distaste
I fold my towel with what grace I can,
Not young, and not renewable, but man.

for the day that's in it

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Monday, 7 July 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

happy birthday<3

estela, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

Constipated Oppen and the like almost make me angry now. I devoted entirely to much time to this stuff in the past.

Picked up Selected Prose, Daybooks, and Papers by Oppen for a buck the other week. I don't think I'll read it, blurb by Perloff or no blurb by Perloff. A lot of it seems awfully callow.

alimosina, Monday, 7 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

seven years pass...

When round 3 we ask

pandmac (darraghmac), Friday, 14 January 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link


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