Armond White:"Can Jay-Z and Diddy save hip hop?"

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Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 May 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

There was another overblown piece about this video in the Sunday NYT too.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 13 May 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

first off, "stigmatization is perpetuated..." fuck that shit. jay-z just has talent like louie armstrong, or whoever that trumpet player was who blew in front of all white bands and audiences. duke ellington! it's a total white-guy "keeping it real" retard notion. i can't believe this

I actually like his movie reviews. I mean he doesn't shy away from letting you know how he really feels. Also, they tend to be pretty memorable. I think I see his "overblown tendencies" as strong emotional resposes. Not what you usually get with movie reviews, i guess unless you count "hated it" or "loved it."

strong emotional responses are overblown tendencies when you can't write well. so many words i'd rather read "hated it" or "loved it" with a picture of him smiling smarmy, lips hiding teeth, eyes hollow. hated it!

$corpium ($corpium), Thursday, 13 May 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

key phrases redux:

1) "partake in its spectacle"

$corpium ($corpium), Thursday, 13 May 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

1) "...partake in its spectacle"
2) "the familiar edifice of ghetto-fabulous determinism"
3) "pauses for condescension"

$corpium ($corpium), Thursday, 13 May 2004 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

first off, "stigmatization is perpetuated..." fuck that shit. jay-z just has talent like louie armstrong, or whoever that trumpet player was who blew in front of all white bands and audiences. duke ellington! it's a total white-guy "keeping it real" retard notion. i can't believe this

(1) lots of black musicians played in all-white clubs during the '20s and '30s; not sure what yr overriding point there is.

(2) Armond White is, in fact, black.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(a photo and interview: http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/winter2004/features/the_critic.html)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna say, the guy is black.

i actually don't like reading his essays per se but he sometimes has short little pieces in film comment that are ok, sometimes he has interesting reasons for talking about something. his taste is really perverse and unpredictable, which is good and bad.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

while he did throw shapes abt these indie bands to drum up publicity for blueprint 3, the common source of this for both jay-z & d projectors is probably new-agey self-help stuff. it's a p ancient idea.

tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

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nakhchivan, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

haha!

tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Armond on The Smiths' Girlfriend in a Coma

flappy bird, Friday, 11 August 2017 04:22 (six years ago) link

God I hate to be "well actually" but girlfriend in a coma isn't even in the top 10 of controversial morrissey/smiths songs

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 August 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

i've never been a fan of armond but that was a pretty decent piece imo

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 11 August 2017 07:23 (six years ago) link

did we ever get this sorted lads

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 11 August 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link

somewhere in my hellsite of a flat i have a copy of a new york city sun (from 1992 i guess?) which contains two long articles by armond white (while it lasted he was its critic-in-chief)

1: is a long detailed look at malcolm x the historical figure and malcolm x the movie
2: the other is a long favourable look at morrissey, who AW was very evidently drawn to

given both their subsequent trajectories i think this is both telling and -- to be fair to AW -- perceptive

(the movie came out the exact month of the madstock/union jack controversy, which is where inklings of doubt did begin elsewhere; can't recall if the city sun piece discusses this or predates it; should probably look it out and report back, perhaps a month off-line wd do me good)

mark s, Friday, 11 August 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link


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