does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

fortunately he's written many more great pop songs than fucking Timberlake.

He's also been recording music for thirty years.

the woman is complex, not just some witch

and she's always been so hard to figure out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ytcQW93yrU

Maybe that's an allusion to the Eagles "Witchy Woman"?

Dylan's voice + Roger McGuinn's voice = Tom Petty's voice

yes?

I also hear some Gene Clark in his phrasing, at times.

hey i was really into "mixed emotions" as a kid

yeah i was like 12 when it came out and i do remember liking it. but i was probably a little abnormal. somewhere around 7th grade i mothballed all my pop and 80s hair metal cassettes and began listening almost exclusively to beatles/dylan/early stones/zep for about 2 years. i'm certain i was unbearable.

o yeah, still listened to a lot of rap (that i could get my hands on, that is. parental advisory stickers etc had become a really Big Deal iirc)

He's not Sarah Palin--that always counts for something. (Even though he wasn't-Sarah-Palin long before anyone had ever heard of Sarah Palin.)

What is it with Mick and leotards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdJzLpWFYJ4

what the fuck @ this thread title

i bet you listen to 1st wave emo

i srsly get confused when this thread title comes up

When I think of flower power, I think of Bryan Adams.

i bet you listen to 1st wave emo

Not if you read the post. More like the standard anti-white-guys-with-guitars-attitude.

He's not Sarah Palin

^ I meant to italicize that quote from above and add a sarcastic, "No, I don't suppose he is." And I have failed at that.

I like some of Petty's songs very much, for what it's worth.

important questions:

-- does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?
-- the pope: catholic, or what?
-- bears shit in the woods, y/n?

Well, polar bears don't.

jess totally listens to first wave emo i'm pretty sure

That live 4CD Tom Petty box that came out last year is fucking great. First of all, the performances are from a twenty-plus year span but sound like they could have all been recorded at the exact same gig; second of all, you can get it for like $22 at Target. Highly recommended.

yeah i still need to get that live box ...

ug threads like this up top are the worst of the "good old days" of ILM

ug threads like this up top are the worst of the "good old days" of ILM

i wonder what jess thinks now?

best answer:

Good god Jess, have you never been in a CAR?
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there was a curious form of anti-rockism that was actually anti-popism

More like anti-boringmusicism.

ah petty's ok. josh otm.

Blimey, this thread. So old, people posted with their real names!

They probably used real instruments too.

We carved out our posts on petrified papyrus.

the heartbreakers are a terrific band, even on songs i don't really like mike campbell comes up with something really distinctive -- he might be a better melodicist than his band leader.

dude wrote fucking Boys of Summer

and this is a good or a bad thing?

yeah campbell writes brilliant guitar parts, very typical of amazing guitarists that don't really get that much recognition from the guitar mag industry because they don't specialize as soloist....

me and a couple of friends were speculating that thunders and petty should have swapped heartbreakers for like 3 months and each recorded albums with the other band...that could have been pretty cool

i did not know that!

xp re: boys of summer

yep petty admitted that was a fuckup letting that go in the documentary

listen to it now, and you can TOTALLY hear that chorus as a tom petty song

"Runaway Trains" always sounded like Campbell trying to write a "Boys of Summer" sequel for Petty.

Has Petty ever covered it ("The Boys of Summer") ?

For what it's worth, I think Henley's vocal suits the snotty wistfulness of the song better than Petty's would have.

In 1984 Henley was much more comfortable with synths than Petty was.

"Runaway Trains" always sounded like Campbell...

Yes. Except he forgot to write a melody for the verses

great chorus though

He's such a riveting figure, his thread has held the top of the list for the past 40+ minutes.

In 1984 Henley was much more comfortable with synths than Petty was.

First thing I thought of too!

?? hmm....southern accents was 85, and that has "don't come around here no more" which is as much classic rock new wave as "boys of summer"

"you got lucky" is from 82 and that's pretty much a synth pop song!

Tom Petty, fronting Yazoo.

once in college i was trying to figure out how to play the keyboard part from "you got lucky" on guitar and some girl in the dorm asked me if i was playing the theme to the young and the restless

yeah, petty was collab-ing with the dude from the eurythmics so he can't have been too scared of synths. maybe he thought "you got lucky" and "don't come around here" were enough when "boys of summer" came his way.

omg mary j blige could KILL a track that used a "you got lucky" sample!

i'm tellin u ned! it IS synth pop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTAhZKP5wCY

plus the weird ambient music in the lol mad max intro totally sounds like early tangerine dream!