man, Tom was getting so much love on ILM lately. And now he's a rap-hatin', war-profiteerin', whiney jerk.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I still like'em, but he's such a fun target.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
stevie nicks apparently is also down with the war profiteers...
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I would like to hear "go shorty, it's your bat mitzvah" if it was ever leaked.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
playing obscene rich person/corporate events is one of the open dirty secrets of working musicians, isn't it?
― goole, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't really see what's objectionable in that article. i've read petty being a dick about prefab pop stars and that kind of thing before -- yr standard rockist complaints -- but there isn't even really any of that in there. there's some doofy stuff said by the writer, but it's not at all clear it comes from petty. and i think the decibel guy is taking the "one of the best bands" lines somewhat wrong -- i think he's mostly big-upping his band (and campbell in particular), and at their best the heartbreakers really were great.
also tho this line
Mr. Petty has written from a female perspective on a surprising number of songs
is something i was thinking about during our recent run of petty polls, and i think it does help account for his large female audience. "american girl" is a sort of unusual song for a male rock dude to write, because she's not some object of desire, the whole song is from inside her head. and even on something like "woman in love," which is from the guy's perspective, the woman is complex, not just some witch, and the failure is mostly on the guy's part ("i don't understand the world today/ i don't understand what she needed").
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
His other great subject is people fucking with his head ("Breakdown," "Don't Come Around Here No More," "Jammin' Me," etc) -- a universal sentiment.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
fortunately he's written many more great pop songs than fucking Timberlake.
― Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
He's also been recording music for thirty years.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
the woman is complex, not just some witch
and she's always been so hard to figure out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ytcQW93yrU
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe that's an allusion to the Eagles "Witchy Woman"?
― QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Dylan's voice + Roger McGuinn's voice = Tom Petty's voice
yes?
― lukevalentine, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I also hear some Gene Clark in his phrasing, at times.
― QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
hey i was really into "mixed emotions" as a kid
yeah i was like 12 when it came out and i do remember liking it. but i was probably a little abnormal. somewhere around 7th grade i mothballed all my pop and 80s hair metal cassettes and began listening almost exclusively to beatles/dylan/early stones/zep for about 2 years. i'm certain i was unbearable.
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
o yeah, still listened to a lot of rap (that i could get my hands on, that is. parental advisory stickers etc had become a really Big Deal iirc)
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
He's not Sarah Palin--that always counts for something. (Even though he wasn't-Sarah-Palin long before anyone had ever heard of Sarah Palin.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link
What is it with Mick and leotards?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdJzLpWFYJ4
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
what the fuck @ this thread title
i bet you listen to 1st wave emo
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i srsly get confused when this thread title comes up
― underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link
When I think of flower power, I think of Bryan Adams.
― Band Fag X (u s steel), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Not if you read the post. More like the standard anti-white-guys-with-guitars-attitude.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link
He's not Sarah Palin
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link
^ I meant to italicize that quote from above and add a sarcastic, "No, I don't suppose he is." And I have failed at that.
I like some of Petty's songs very much, for what it's worth.
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link
important questions:
-- does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?-- the pope: catholic, or what?-- bears shit in the woods, y/n?
― women are a bunch of dudes (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, polar bears don't.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
jess totally listens to first wave emo i'm pretty sure
― he's a beast, he's a dog, he's a muthafuckin' viking (some dude), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
That live 4CD Tom Petty box that came out last year is fucking great. First of all, the performances are from a twenty-plus year span but sound like they could have all been recorded at the exact same gig; second of all, you can get it for like $22 at Target. Highly recommended.
― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i still need to get that live box ...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ug threads like this up top are the worst of the "good old days" of ILM
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder what jess thinks now?
best answer:
Good god Jess, have you never been in a CAR?― Josh, Monday, December 31, 2001 7:00 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Brio, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
there was a curious form of anti-rockism that was actually anti-popism
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
More like anti-boringmusicism.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
ah petty's ok. josh otm.
― goole, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Blimey, this thread. So old, people posted with their real names!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
They probably used real instruments too.
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
We carved out our posts on petrified papyrus.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
the heartbreakers are a terrific band, even on songs i don't really like mike campbell comes up with something really distinctive -- he might be a better melodicist than his band leader.
― goole, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
dude wrote fucking Boys of Summer
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
and this is a good or a bad thing?
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah campbell writes brilliant guitar parts, very typical of amazing guitarists that don't really get that much recognition from the guitar mag industry because they don't specialize as soloist....
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
me and a couple of friends were speculating that thunders and petty should have swapped heartbreakers for like 3 months and each recorded albums with the other band...that could have been pretty cool
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i did not know that!
xp re: boys of summer
― goole, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
yep petty admitted that was a fuckup letting that go in the documentary
listen to it now, and you can TOTALLY hear that chorus as a tom petty song
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
"Runaway Trains" always sounded like Campbell trying to write a "Boys of Summer" sequel for Petty.
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Has Petty ever covered it ("The Boys of Summer") ?
For what it's worth, I think Henley's vocal suits the snotty wistfulness of the song better than Petty's would have.
― Euler, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
In 1984 Henley was much more comfortable with synths than Petty was.
― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
"Runaway Trains" always sounded like Campbell...
Yes. Except he forgot to write a melody for the verses
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
great chorus though
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
He's such a riveting figure, his thread has held the top of the list for the past 40+ minutes.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link