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wait, what does icey mean?

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

do mods keep suggest bans for things like posting about pubic hair on ILTMI, or are those suggest bans removed because it's ILTMI? not that anyone suggest banned kate for that, it was just something I was curious about; half the time when I read ILTMI threads I'm like "wtf, this is just begging for a suggest ban. oh wait, we were warned that this was TMI."

Good question. I think it's a bit suspicious that Kate got SBed soon after starting a pubic hair discussion on ILTMI. If she was SBed for that, then it's just plain wrong. But I guess we'll never know.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

is the will of the tards a reference to swine flu?

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

you know guys the important thing is that we all rally together to sb the multiplying faux naive style over posters what have flourished in this nu era of ilx niceness

ppl shld do this imo still dont really no who this poster was tho who got sb'd

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm gonna sb Lamp for posting from a teenager's cell phone in a second.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

suggest banned Lamp for his faux naive style

I have all the print out about Dimebag and his murder (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

another way of dealing w/the nu faux naive contingent is just to be mean - i never really trucked w/that but im starting to realize these posters such as chaki and tombot... they had a purpose

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Here here

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Miss the hell out of Tombot.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yep,joe otm

Finlandia Jones and the Sugban Crusade (carne asada), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

The poster won't find out what exactly is "wrong" with him, and hence might not change his ways when he returns.

lol

Don't you find it exhausting?

megalol!

goole, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

51 / 4435 = 1.1%

bnw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah yeah tell it to max baucus, d-mt

goole, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

xp ice cr?m: who are you referring to when you speak of this new faux naive contingent?

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

just u know people who ask questions abt every lil damn thing

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

like what? do you have an example?

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

its ok ilx will proscribe them a 3year course of abuse and bans and they will come out unscathed but for a weird/shitty username ~_~

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL! <3 Mr Que

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

lol im sayin louis if you showed up here today w/yr original shtick everyone would just shrug

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

another way of dealing w/the nu faux naive contingent is just to be mean - i never really trucked w/that but im starting to realize these posters such as chaki and tombot... they had a purpose

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:48 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the sad thing is, u begin to see there is only one destination--either u are so mean that u end up flaming out and getting banned or leaving--or u are so annoyed u phase urself out--either way, ur done w/ ilx

max, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

r*i*p

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I know that, but as far as I know most of those fights took place long before the SB system was installed. That's why I'm baffled that she was banned now, when it looks like she hasn't been that aggressive for quite a while.

I'm pretty sure I didn't SB kate, but I'll bet that most of kate's sbs were for the Pitchfork thread.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:30 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

joe ice is right no1 really gets abused on ilx just maybe sb'd or whiney yells @ them

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

in a way, we are all crazy customers, ilx is the store, and IMP is the complaints department

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

suggest ban doesnt even seem that mean or exclusive anymore really more like temp parole

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

btw seriously people DON'T SB TUOMAS because the 80's thread is actually shaping up quite nicely

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xp when are our overlords going to realise that life means life

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

its funny to think tombot was originally elevated to mod status cause he served kate in manner teh britishes couldnt bring themselves to

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

(plus, you shouldn't SB him anyway, he is great)

my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Wtf did Kate do to get suggest banned? Are we really gonna do this until every ILX regular with a noticeable personality gets SBed? Should the board be ruled by blandness?

― Tuomas, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty much touman is otm abt this

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

kate didnt get any sbs from the pubic hair thread manyxpost to tuomas

NAKES HAVE THE STAPLES IN THEM (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty soon sb's will be like an asbo, or the time you have to serve to get in with the mafia. everyone will want one.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

nah every poster who has been SB'd so far has been totally bland (i.e. predictable)

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

in the sense that they could be replaced by a robot programmed to post the same 20 phrases ad nauseum

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

2 b fair u kinda h8 every1

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

itt: tuomas shocked, n/a jaded

bnw, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

must add to chorus--icey brutally otm in here.

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

this thread title sounds like a john grisham book

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

TBH I was suprised it took this long - not that it happened. And I say that as someone who hasnt SB her and wouldnt, but I can see why some of her posting style would infuritate people, and I'm completely flummoxed that Tuomas is insisting this isnt obvious.

hulk would smash (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

and we've discussed it before on other threads - but perhaps Kate's banning seems incredible to Tuomas because there is definitely a disparity in people's thresholds for what constitutes a suggest-bannable offense.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

it's fairly well covered that tuomas doesn't believe that any behaviour merits a suggest ban, which is fair enough from his point of view. it's his refusal to accept the inevitable results of other people feeling differently that's the killer.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

That's When I Reach for My SB Button

We had an entire thread on this subject Sarahel. It was pretty constructive.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Matt DC - that's the thread I was referring to when I said that we had discussed this on other threads.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It was a very constructive thread, agreed.

sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

in the sense that they could be replaced by a robot programmed to post the same 20 phrases ad nauseum

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 05:13 (4 hours ago)

this is v true but could probably be said about many posters tbh

"your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

some phrases are more bearable than others

SBing Crosby (haitch), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Fucking hell.

sarahel, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

That's actually a very good post by Kate. Even if you disagree with her points it's worth to consider that this what people who have been part of this community for years may feel like when they're suddenly SBed. Also, this particular comment by her:

A suggest ban comes without warning, after 51 people have clicked that button. There's NOTHING in the system to say "you're getting close." There's no explanation of WHY you have been banned. Just a blank screen, saying "you have been barred."

If it's supposed to act as a punishment or deterrent, shouldn't it refer the person being punished to some reason *why* they are being punished? If it was a particular post or exchange that triggered the ban, wouldn't it be helpful to tell the person which one it was, rather than leave them hanging in the dark? The refusal to share this information seems perverse at best.

...it totally OTM. Even if mods/admins don't want to get rid of Suggest Bans, they should at least think about how to adress these issues.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing that's the most upsetting to me about it - is that there are people here who have serious mental health issues, like Kate, and that, in theory, it's no big thing to be given a 30 day time out, it's just a message board. But for someone who sees it as a lot more than that - as a form of emotional/social support network - which it seems to function as for her, I can understand how she can feel the way she does about being suggest banned and how she can paste all those other implications onto it.

I would feel horrible, as I imagine many other people would, if she were to engage in self-harm because of an ilx suggest ban, even though I had no role in it.

sarahel, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link


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