a specific complaint

tuomas, please i entreat you chill out about this, you are appreciated in these quarters and it would hurt me to see you SB'd again, also if you and kate were gone at once i'd have to volunteer myself for ILTMI adminship and who knows how that might turn out

You're being a giant babby.

Sorry, xp in this case.

xxp - roxy is still an ILTMI mod

I honestly don't know what was so infuriating about Kate that she got SBed. If it's so obvious, maybe someone can tell me?

Good god. Tuomas, you and all the other people who keep getting sb'ed know exactly what about you is so infuriating at this point. Stop faking.

― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:25 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

I really hope this is true because if Tuomas really doesn't get it at this point then I just . . . I don't even know.

51 people can tell you. the mods can't.

I promised myself I'd never do it again.

So you are sincerely asking people - presumably those that sb-ed her - why they did so?

Tuomas are you trying to turn this into a bash Kate thread? Why would you ask ppl to blatantly state what they don't like about someone?

x-post hahahaha exactly

it is the finnish way

I'm pretty sure I didn't SB kate, but I'll bet that most of kate's sbs were for the Pitchfork thread.

I never sb-ed Kate, but then I only sb people for over the top personal attacks on other posters or for being boring sockpuppet trolls.

a bowel-wrenching cry echoes across the darkling taiga

WHY U BAN K8

No, but Laurel was implying that it's somehow obvious why everyone who got suggest banned got 51 SBs. I can see why it happened to myself or Cankles, but with Kate and some other posters I have no idea.

(xxx-post)

i vote for mods locking a thread each time tuomas starts whining about SB's--just a suggestion

do you think ilx is some kind of democracy, Senor What?

What?

i wonder how many suggest bans tuomas racks up on threads discussing suggest bans

kate was hated by a lot of posters, many of them british. personally i didn't really have anything against her and am saddened by this because for all the ranty handwringing she is passionate about music and often brings good content to ilx, also her recent genderfuck WDYLL pic is truly one for the ages

tuomas doesn't do himself any favours, even if inwardly i applaud his anti-ban zeal

Laurel was implying

Pretty sure I didn't imply anything.

I am anti-SB but Tumoas you make me want to rip out my eyeballs every time I see you posting on one of these SB threads. At this point it's obv that the system isn't going to change so why even bother? Don't you find it exhausting?

keep fighting the good fight tuomas

suggest ban sucks

lol who is masonic boom?

sum british chick i guess? is this an ilm thing?

<3 Laurel

Tuomas, I think a lot of her SBs were for aggressive flame-outs at people - and I'm speaking as someone who gets on with Kate but she has been involved in a lot of pretty ugly fights here over the years, the rights and wrongs of which aren't really to be debated here. I like Kate a lot but I think even she'd admit she has an aggressive side.

The timing of this is really unfortunate given that Kate's actually been really quiet and a fun poster of late. It's a similar situation to Louis, she'd been sitting in the high 40s for a long time without accumulating any further SBs, and then it only took a couple to push her over the edge. I doubt she'll be treated any differently from the way LJ was.

You may now return to your 300-post clusterfuck of wilful misreading and stirring.

the system can change enbb dont lose heart - nothing will ever be right around here til my powers of sb count 10x

I liked her Sea Arches thread from yesterday.

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/Images/candlelight-vigil.jpg

30 days, ppl

i wonder how many suggest bans tuomas racks up on threads discussing suggest bans

probably more than I did when I was being more annoying about the same topic!!

do mods keep suggest bans for things like posting about pubic hair on ILTMI, or are those suggest bans removed because it's ILTMI? not that anyone suggest banned kate for that, it was just something I was curious about; half the time when I read ILTMI threads I'm like "wtf, this is just begging for a suggest ban. oh wait, we were warned that this was TMI."

you know guys the important thing is that we all rally together to sb the multiplying faux naive style over posters what have flourished in this nu era of ilx niceness

lol Joe

Tuomas, I think a lot of her SBs were for aggressive flame-outs at people - and I'm speaking as someone who gets on with Kate but she has been involved in a lot of pretty ugly fights here over the years, the rights and wrongs of which aren't really to be debated here.

I know that, but as far as I know most of those fights took place long before the SB system was installed. That's why I'm baffled that she was banned now, when it looks like she hasn't been that aggressive for quite a while.

look when kate returns it will be as ilx's xmas present, think of it that way

xp - yeah, I hadn't noticed her post anything remotely aggravating in the past few weeks or so.

keep fighting the good fight tuomas

suggest ban sucks

― max, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^^OTM, nobody is forcing you to click on the thread

u can sb people for old posts is one kink in the sb system

what's wrong with faux naivety? I don't know?

hey what do you know, tuomas is baffled by something

i know when im felled by the will of the tards im coming back w/an all new usrname

wait, what does icey mean?

do mods keep suggest bans for things like posting about pubic hair on ILTMI, or are those suggest bans removed because it's ILTMI? not that anyone suggest banned kate for that, it was just something I was curious about; half the time when I read ILTMI threads I'm like "wtf, this is just begging for a suggest ban. oh wait, we were warned that this was TMI."

Good question. I think it's a bit suspicious that Kate got SBed soon after starting a pubic hair discussion on ILTMI. If she was SBed for that, then it's just plain wrong. But I guess we'll never know.

is the will of the tards a reference to swine flu?

you know guys the important thing is that we all rally together to sb the multiplying faux naive style over posters what have flourished in this nu era of ilx niceness

ppl shld do this imo still dont really no who this poster was tho who got sb'd

I'm gonna sb Lamp for posting from a teenager's cell phone in a second.

suggest banned Lamp for his faux naive style

another way of dealing w/the nu faux naive contingent is just to be mean - i never really trucked w/that but im starting to realize these posters such as chaki and tombot... they had a purpose

Here here

totally agree with just1n3, i have major issues with the abdication of responsibility thing personally but to get into that would just be a needless mess.

initially with SB i didn't know if it was really gonna start affecting people i thought would be vulnerable to it but in time pretty much all of them have racked up 51 (the idea is that over a long enough period most regular posters would, but over a long enough period of time a single month is fuck all so for me it was never a problem). tbh this was re-assuring to me that i've generally not been unreasonable wrt the people i think go too far (not in 'being a dick' but by 'being annoying') on the board in different ways. seems its as difficult for some of us to understand the outrage and hurt over most s-bans as it is for others to understand how they could've occurred.

over a long enough period most regular posters would, but over a long enough period of time a single month is fuck all

never considered it like that but fair point.

(although from the other perspective probably doesn't seem like that tbf)

yes, also it would be silly if s-bans given 3 years ago or whatever were to still count against someone (obv s-ban hasn't been in place that long).

I thought someone did say that they expired after a certain period of time.

not sure that has ever been addressed, tbh- can't remember seeing a specific time mentioned.

don't think the expiration is automatic but I'm sure I've read a mod mention about spending some time manually erasing old sbs.

Could be wrong tho.

Six months.

The six-month expiration of SBs hasn't come into force yet, for the simple reason that we couldn't actually timestamp SBs until five months ago, so it would introduce as many inaccuracies at is solved. A couple of months down the line it should be easier to tell.

I've got an email from Kate saying she's uncomfortable with this discussion going on here without her being able to contribute to it, which is fair enough, so I'm going to lock this thread now. If people want to continue talking about SBs in the abstract then fine* but any further Kate-centric threads will be either locked or deleted. I think we've covered all we can here without things drifting into either unfounded speculation or bitching.

*Although it's still very tiresome.