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Also it was meant to be Kim and Thurston's band really

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't the personal shit around Dirty 'cause they wouldn't put Genetic on the album and didn't want Wish Fulfillment there either?

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah but I was trying to think of why they didn't want "Genetic" on Dirty in the first place. Kind of terrible cos it's about their best ROCK song ever, maybe they were embarrassed Lee was doing the best at it. Me and Elisabeth yelled for it at the gig, didn't work

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh and S if you didn't know there's NO LEE on EJSTANS at ALL. And it mostly sucks, tho it was cool to hear "Bull in the Heather" live, Jim seemed particularly useful on it

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Some observations from the show:

1. At several points at the gig Jim did the 'Bruce Russell thing' of playing the lead with no instrument. For two way-too-brief moments in the improv bits he played guitar just like he used to in the old days; ie. so it sounds nothing like a guitar.
2. Thurston plays real simple guitar. They would turn into the Grateful Dead if it wasn't for him.
3. Someone yelled "play in New Zealand next time" and Jim looked confused.
4. There was a place you could stand where you could hardly hear the bands vocals. Most of the audience there were better singers than Thurston, Kim and Lee. Not Jim obviously.
5. People in the moshpit were less violent than they were at the Chch Dirty show.
6. Ticket says "Doors open 8pm" and then show starts at 8.05. wtf?
7. Lee played a synth at the start.
8. The J Mascis set was like a free jazz set with all the songs played together without a break and everyone clapping the solos.
8. Steve had a smaller drumkit than last time I saw him and played funky drums instead of big bomastic rolling.
9. Oh yeah and Jim touched my hand.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I tried listening to a few Lee songs together once and they all sounded the same.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember getting EJST&NS home (the last new vinyl album to be cheaper than a CD?) and trying to skip straight to the Lee song. I looked at the titles thought 'In the Mind of the Bourgeois Reader' must be the Lee song.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

You call yourself Youth but you're too fucking old. Sorry I had to say something stupider than above. I wonder if Peter Jefferies was there.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't seem him.. in fact the highest profile muso i saw there was probably heath from deja voodoo.. not exactly a superstar

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw Stefan from Pumice, Beth from the Futurians and Dean from Nova Scotia. I don't think any of them have written songs about Sonic Youth tho.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I yelled "I LOVE YOU LEE!" and we think he heard

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw every member of Sonic Youth

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

3. Someone yelled "play in New Zealand next time" and Jim looked confused.

hahahahaha

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

who said what was their best album? um.
I totally forgot about that synth/organ thing! pretty cool. & yeah, steve's funky drumming was a uh revelation though I didn't look at him as much as I meant to (& I didn't see enough of thurston either, but I was on the other side of the stage & my eyesight really suxx).
I'm annoyed that I didn't see BCM - I heard he was starting at 9pm & sprinted from arch hill to get there, grrr.

― etc, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:13 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah missing campbell was a pain, we'll blame androu for that (and the stoopid early start time)

― chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

You said EJSTANS was when E and I hassled it one time.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

hamish have you actually heard the grateful dead

― duane, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I got Live/Dead from the library. I only liked Dark Star on it. What other albums from them should i get out?

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link

get "blues for allah"!
sorry if i sounded kind of snide there but i just thought, huh pretty bad example for what he's probably trying to say. whadda i know tho, i haven't even heard any SY records since experimental jet set etc etc. also i'm not even some big time dead head, i've only heard like 3 versions of dark star & to be a real deadnik you've gotta have like a tape library of like 30 versions of that song alone, i believe

― experimental dead set & dark star, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

that's their best song tho (dark star)

― experimental dead set & dark star, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link

oh hey wait i have heard some later SY, i've heard those SYR ep's. those're pretty good (in a g. dead/d. star sort of way)

― experimental dead set & dark star, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i need to hear more quicksilver messenger service

― experimental dead set & dark star, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link

H. maybe you should download or something John Oswald's "Grayfolded", it's made out of 25 years' worth of performances of "Dark Star" and sounds kind of interesting

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i havent heard that either, i'd sorta like to i guess

― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

The library has: Music never stopped, American Beauty, Workingmans Dead, Wake of the Flood, Dead Ahead, and Terrapin Station; and also Grayfolded which I haven't got round to getting out yet but I liked the excerpt on the Plunderphonics 2cd.

― hsimah (hamish), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I've never heard EJSTANS! onward w/contrarianism & shit.

― etc, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

This doesn't exactly shock me!

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The first time I read this I thought there was a Sonic Youth album I didn't know about called Ejstans. Did anyone see the Sonic Youth interview on intellectual property (ew) tonight? It wasn't v exciting. Then they played the video for Youth Against Fascism, geewhiz.

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

What a choice song that is

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how it has Ian MacKaye on it tho

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ah "intellectual property" that cracks me up how their indie rock show is called that, don't they know "intellectuals" only listen to chart pop

― duane, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

steven you don't need to haer experimental jet set, it's not very good.
whadda i know tho, i've (etc etc something or other something bla bla can't even think of a good joke here)

― duane, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

elisabeth i just made you a tape, it's got lotsa real 'intellectual" stuff on it (here)
wow how uncanny the very next tape there is by you, UNCANNY

― duane, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to listen to it again soon, but I'm pretty sure it has about 5-7 good songs (out of about 14) which is USELESS for Sy

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

It IS their low-fi/GBV/Riot Grrl album tho. Wonder why it sucked, those are certainly all their big strengths

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

they played that same feckin SY song on intellectual property two weeks ago. and the same blonde redhead song. and then they played two songs they played last week, by unmemorable bands. and some franz ferdinand. fuck that show sucked tonight. wasn't steve shelley sexy though?

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man that is UNCANNY. Do you have my address?

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Di I'm sending yr tape tomorrow so check yr PO box like the day after or the day after that.

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hiphop etc vinyl's cheaper/about the same as Cds, mostly. Which rules when RG actually get what we want IN. "BLACK ALBUM" PLEASE.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Experimental JetSet has two of my favourite SY songs on it: "bull in the heather" and "sweet shine" therefore I like it plenty. I don't know SY as well as most of you though.
I reckon "youth against fascism" is one of my least favourites.

― cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Those are two of my fav things on it, esp "Sweet Shine".

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I wasn't planning on getting jet set; I stopped buying SY stuff since marc3l kept my copies of confusion is sex (which I liked a whole lot) & evol (which I'd just grudgingly made myself buy, blah blah anti-evol/sister but I was gonna reverse my position but then I never got to listen to it so FUCK EM).

― etc, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I like messing up the EJSTANS cd covers in Real Groovy. My favourite's the green one.

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Are all you Lee worshippers forgetting that he wandered on stage reading (or pretending to read) a book? Blaaah.
I was kinda hoping that SY would follow "Skip Tracer" with a cover of "Shut Out". Mind you, if they did it would probably just have been annoying cos that song sucks.
Who the devil is Carrie Sterling?

― Minty (Minty), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

We arrived late, y'know. Fuck support bands

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Would be good if they played the Walker Brothers one instead but I'm sure no-one would get the joke. But who cares it would rock anyways.

― hsimah (hamish), Thursday, 1 July 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's the set list, according to someone:

I Love You Golden Blue
Bull In The Heather
Empty Page
Pattern Recognition
Stones
Unmade Bed
Paper Cut Exit
White Cross
Dude Ranch Nurse
Mariah Carey And The Arthur Doyle Hand Cream
Skip Tracer
Drunken Butterfly
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Rain On Tin
Pacific Coast Highway
--
Schizophrenia
New Hampshire
Kool Thing

― Minty (Minty), Thursday, 1 July 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks Anton! Btw I think Carrie was Duane

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Brave Men Run
Death Valley '69
Cotton Crown
Kill Yr Idols
Eric's Trip
Sacred Trickster
Calming the Snake
Starfield Road
I Love Her All The Time
Ghost Bitch
Tom Violence
What We Know
Drunken Butterfly
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Flower
Sugar Kane
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Psychic Hearts (whole band)
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Inhuman

Holy shit, this setlist would've ALMOST made me brave the hipster army in Williamsburg--do they do this kind of "oldies" show alot?

― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 14 August 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

post thurston/kim breakup sonic youth sounds ... exactly the same!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZBTk9fu_fN0
aside from that, mark ibold's presence here confuses me -- is he doing anything other than doubling kim's bass lines?

― tylerw, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

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