Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

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"fuck that west coast shit, man. our fuckin' promo photo has seen more hard road than them dudes."


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scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"Yeah, man, I'll tape you the fuck up you don't give me some 'switch to listen to."


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scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

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QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i love this thread.

i've been listening to the first sutherland brothers album a lot lately; i don't know where they were from geographically though. also the Hoover LP on Epic is very good for this kind of thing--I know Jaxon has heard it, cuz we talked about it on another thread. Better than the Yanoska LP, also on Epic. The Yanoska record has a funny song about prostitution though.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

and my fave New Riders of the Purple Sage is just NRPS.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

also!! am i the only Happy & Artie Traum fan on ILM? Their Double Back album on Capitol is great. The other one on Capitol is good too, but doesn't have a jam to compete with "Scavengers." The records on Rounder aren't as hot, though. More in an old-timey nostalgia vein, rather than sincere contemporary country rockin.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

another thing i've mentioned elsewhere: late period moby grape ain't all bad--check out "changes, circles spinning" from Truly Fine Citizen. That song rules.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, sutherland brothers are connected to the band Quiver that I was listening to last night. i posted their 2nd album cover up above:

http://www.mathie.demon.co.uk/sbq/biograph.html

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i would definitely buy the first couple of happy and artie albums if i saw them. but i never see them.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

the japanese like happy & artie:
http://www.geocities.jp/hideki_wtnb/happy.html

also, i see quiver records all the time but never gave them much of a chance. that's kinda my story with poco, too. i'm gonna make a point to listen to some poco today though.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

nu ilm jaxon threads are extremely reliable

deej, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

my country-rock want list is expanding with each new post. chuckwagon indeed.

here's anoher good one, the Wildweeds LP from '70: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:3vfyxqr5ld0e

It's on Vanguard so, it has a NYC/coffeehouse vibe. However, it is a definite stab at country-rock, folk-rock, country-folk, etc. Iain/Ian Matthews would go on to record the 'Weeds tune, "And When She Smiles." Speaking of Matthews, he just rules. I recently found the Tigers Will Survive LP from '71; that's the last one of his early records I was missing. Dream of a Fairport/CSN&Y hybrid; that's Matthews early stuff. Awesome.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

the only matthews records i have are later that same year and uhh.. valley hi. i listen to the former a lot more frequently, partially cuz of "and when she smiles;" i'll have to try to dig up that wildweeds LP; i know i've seen the name mentioned around a bit here.

ian, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i had that ian matthews Tigers Will Survive album. wasn't too much a fan. prolly picked it up because it was on Vertigo. wasn't he part of Pentangle or something?

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

currently listening to Don Cooper on Andy Votel's Delay 68 label (luv luv luv). i started a thread on the dude a while back but no responses. reading up on him, looks like he got a bit of fame, but had a shitty label and couldn't get proper distrobution/marketing.
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/delay68/discography_03_notes.html
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:gzftxqu5ld6e~T1

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got lots of ian matthews rekkerds. i dig them.

the quiver records aren't that great, ian. they're okay. not Poco great though.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian Matthews records I would definitely recommend:


matthews southern comfort - s/t (debut)

matthews southern comfort - second spring

matthews southern comfort - later that same year

plainsong - in search of amelia earhart

solo records:

journeys from gospel oak

stealin' home

valley hi

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never heard those vertigo records though! i'm sure i would like them.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't he part of Pentangle or something?

he was an original member of Fairport. Then he fell in love with the West Coast and relocated.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

he= matthews

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i even have a southern comfort album without matthew that's pretty good.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this thread! It has turned me on to a whole lot of good music. Can't get enough.

Not all West Coast and some '60s but same overall vibe:

Mason Proffit, Coshise, Bronco, Merrell Fankhauser & HMS Bounty, Taos, Cherokee, Yellow Hand, Hearts & Flowers, Country Funk, High Mountain, the Superfine Dandelion, Gove, Help Yourself.

mcddcm, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i have that Country Funk album. def has that CSNY vibe

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'ver been meaning to pick up some Cochise and Help Yourself.

The reissue of Mighty Baby's A Jug of Love LP rules and really is one of the UK's greatest "West Coast bands." That guitar player, Martin Stone (?), plays some wonderfully fluid runs.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i dig Mason Proffit. I even have a couple of albums that John Michael Talbot made after he became a monk. they're pretty good. mellow new-agey monk folk.


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scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

another band I like that gets forgotten is Redeye. I dig their first album a lot. total dollar record.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

is that "The Smoke" record (michael lloyd, not the british band)as great as some people say, and when is it ever gonna be reissued?

gershy, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess Talbot grew tired of singing about the plight of the Native American.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

^ am i reading between seward's lines well enough and you're C.E.?

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not chuck. that's quantumnoise.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

this is good if you see it for a dollar:


http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/m/a/mariah390871.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

BY FAR, one of the best albums I've heard in recent months:


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so great.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

and i have a later Cowboy album that isn't nearly as good, so i wasn't really expecting it to knock my socks off or anything. but it did. duane allman plays on one track.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

sometime it seems all i have in stock are these kinds of records,then i realize that cant really be possible

danbunny, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

you should give them all to me. nobody wants them anyway.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish i could go with you on the philly/new york/prov/boston leg of your tour, danny. but it would be impossible. it would be fun though.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

^ am i reading between seward's lines well enough and you're C.E.?

that's just me, boring old quantumnoise. i was just riffing on the fact that mason proffit wrote a couple tunes about the plight of the Native American then Talbot becomes a monk. Strange!

Seward, you are overloading my chuckwagon! man, i want to hear all these jams.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 6 April 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

see, it's you guys using the word chuckwagon that threw me off

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, that's just cuz i want people to get on the Poco chuckwagon. jeez, all the love for neil and buffalo springfield and the like...


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scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

u can come we will have room for one more in th caravan..just make sum tyme in yur lyfe

danbunny, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I both love and hate these threads because they remind me a) they remind me how much great stuff is still out there that I've never heard of, and b) that you guys have WAY more time and money than me to spend hunting it down.

:(

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

it's just a part of my life. some people go camping. or whitewater rafting. and i don't spend as much on music as people who buy tons of CDs at CD stores.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

no one buys tons of CDs at CD stores anymore Scott

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean I can't fathom the amount of time I would have to spend on Gemm or Amazon or at record stores and flea markets to even find half this stuff, expense of actual purchases notwithstanding

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a pretty decent and kind of overlooked album by a band that included Michael Lloyd from the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. Album and band are called "Friends" and it's vinyl only (though cheap). Best track is an Easybeats cover, while the rest is pretty good along the lines of the late 60's Bee Gees.

dlp9001, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't heard hardly anything. ebay drives me insane. so much stuff i want and can't afford. i rely on luck. and guile. i really should have gone to college. and run a hedge-fund or something.

scott seward, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to the self titled Humble Pie album. in between fake zep tracks (that's coming from somone who loves fake zep) they have nice country and folk tracks.

jaxon, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always been curious about the Marriott-era Humble Pie but never bothered... I do, however LOVE the Small Faces Zeppier moments (Rollin Over, Afterglow, etc.), is it more of that, just with country and folk fluorishes...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 April 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link


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