The Magnetic Fields: Classic or Dud?

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Merritt had other singers voice his mawkish tendencies. The 6ths projects, for instance, have always seemed excuses to give his weepiest tunes to the coolest singers

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, i hear the 6ths totally differently than you do. admittedly, i don't listen to the second 6ths album very much, or ever, 'cause it's just not that good. but i think wasps' nests is a pretty great pop record, and there's nothing mawkish or weepy about "aging spinsters" or "when i'm out of town" or "dream hat" or "san diego zoo." bitter, yes. cynical, yes. sad, yes, quite often. (and quite often funny, too.) but not weepy in an even remotely mawkish way. it'd be easy to accuse merritt of being too clever or smart-assed or too wrapped up in his classic-american-songwriter songform dreams, but mawkish? nah.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't own "Wasps' Nests" – I just own the second one which, admittedly, I don't play at all – but most of the 6ths material seemed second-tier: at best pleasant throwaways to give the wonderful Sarah Cracknell and Bob Mould decent material, at worst platforms for the likes of Marc Almond and Gary Numan.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

the second one is kinda crap when it comes right down to it. but you should check out wasps' nests, which for me was the final piece of merritt's amazing early '90s synth-pop run, that joyously bitter burst of songs from distant plastic trees and the wayward bus (the two best things he's ever done) through holiday, charm of the highway strip and wasps' nests.

he's done some great stuff since then, but he's never been the same, having entirely given up on his homemade synth-pop attack by the time of 69 love songs. he's going for something entirely different now. but he was a pop song machine back then, and wasps' nests weren't throwaways but rather the mark of a guy who had too many good songs to contain within his own records. a lot of those 6th songs were staples of the mag fields' live shows in those days, too.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
TS: 'Young & Insane' vs 'Love Goes Home To Paris In The Spring'

the bellefox, Sunday, 19 February 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

the latter, every time

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 19 February 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I think I might prefer the former!

But the true answer, I think, is: whichever is playing. For they are both so irresistible!

I really like the melody of the second half of the verse of 'Young & Insane': 'the record store / is execrable'. Maybe I mean I like the lyric too. I don't really know the whole lyric. I like also the way that at the end of the chorus he flatly repeats 'Young & Insane', just to make things clear.

It is queer how those two songs are so far ahead of the rest of that ep, which is droning rather than delightful; unless I am forgetting something.

the bellefox, Sunday, 19 February 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I have just reread this thread. It's terrific!

the bellefox, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

on the right day "paris in the spring" is my favourite magnetic fields song. although i don't really understand what the chorus means, i guess.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 February 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Indeed - I think it is more obscure than it seems!

It is a great phrase, and it always seemed to me to promise a song of great depth. I don't think the song itself is that song - it's just a piece of tremendous freshness.

But what does the chorus mean, then? That love's real home is in Paris ... that it is Spring now ... and so it is leaving Merritt (in NYC? you could hardly sing the song in Paris) and flying home ... leaving him antipathetic to the addressee?

the bellefox, Monday, 20 February 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

there's slightly more, isn't there - he seems (to me) to be under the impression that everyone knows that love goes home to paris in the spring; although how this ties in with the reasons he gives for having had enough, i'm not sure.

It is a great phrase, and it always seemed to me to promise a song of great depth. I don't think the song itself is that song - it's just a piece of tremendous freshness.

"tremendous freshness" - excellent!

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 February 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I had been operating under the assumption that Boss Raggett was the kindly elder statesman of this joint, but, unless he retracts his old comments upthread, he'll be downgraded to "sub-Ribbentrop hack of ILX" in my book.

cousin ill, Monday, 20 February 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Does no-one want to answer my TS?

the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

unless he retracts his old comments upthread

You're out of luck there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

'Love Goes Home To Paris In The Spring', of course.

I'd have told Sundar some good Stephin stories when I was in Toronto if I'd known he liked them!

If Ned hears Kiki & Herb cover TMF, the scales may fall from his ears.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

That would be due 100% to Kiki and Herb and 0% to your darling.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, you!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Why does no-one love 'Young & Insane'?

the bellefox, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Hello,

I am collecting essays and articles on the work of Stephin Merritt for a book and am still accepting proposals. Just wanted to stop by and make that announcement.

email susancallow at hotmail dot com if you are interesting in submitting!

Susancallow, Monday, 29 May 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The intro to "I Think I Need A New Heart" is a commercial for Cesar Canine Cuisine now.

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i was right to jump ship w/69 love songs

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

New album with an intriguing title coming in January: http://houseoftomorrow.com/archives/000057.php

Anyone know anything more about this than they say here?

caek, Monday, 29 October 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

stephan merritt djing at the george and dragon in hackney tonight. kinda wanna go but too fuggin far for a monday.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 10 December 2007 12:07 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

word is merge is releasing vinyl editions of 'the charm of the highway strip' and 'get lost', possibly others.

omar little, Thursday, 10 April 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Bellefox, you're in 2006, now.

I love that song, though.

bamcquern, Thursday, 10 April 2008 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Or, like strongly.

bamcquern, Thursday, 10 April 2008 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Do Merge generally do a good job of vinyl remastering? I'd quite like highway strip.

The Wayward Johnny B, Thursday, 10 April 2008 07:53 (sixteen years ago) link

"Young and Insane" is one of my favorite MFs songs! Though maybe you have to have lived in a town with nothing but a brown school and dead shopping mall (or two!) to appreciate it.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 10 April 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

MF has a lot of details like that. Most writerly music is my favorite music.

bamcquern, Thursday, 10 April 2008 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

July European tour just announced: http://houseoftomorrow.com/archives/000066.php

Tickets for the London shows on sale here as of a couple of minutes ago: http://artistticket.com/themagneticfields

caek, Friday, 11 April 2008 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i've spent way too much on tickets recently and i'm still not too sure about Distortion. But I can't not go to this. Anyone know what cadogan hall is like as a venue?

Upt0eleven, Friday, 11 April 2008 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link

No, but you're right: il faut y aller.

I probably feel much the same about those two songs as I did, in 2006.

The vinyl reissue seems to me either a Merritt retro whim, or a way to make a small chunk of easy cash.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i think it's the home of the royal philharmonic, it looks swanky as hell, i just got front stall tickets from here

http://www.artistticket.com/

distortion is a real sustained grower, i wildly prefer it to i, there are a couple of ropey moments in the middle though

cw, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

House of Tomorrow says those are limited / reserved etc - and tickets will go on sale for THE GENERAL PUBLIC tomorrow.

please could you explain how you got those tickets; are you not a member of the general public?

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Or, what is the distinction between these 'reserved' tickets and others? Isn't any ticket reserved once you have bought it?

I would genuinely like to know, about this, because I would like to buy.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

i have blue blood

are there no tickets available now? thursday seemed to be sold out, i got em for wednesday

the mailout suggests they're just good seats

presumably reserved for people on the house of tomorrow list and local dignatries like me

cw, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link

sold out already? within 2 hours of going on sale? what is this - Bruce Springsteen? Morrissey in CA?

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link

naw, i think it's just a few rows at the front, you should keep an eye on the site, maybe they'll release some more as the day goes on? otherwise you could chance your arm with general public tomorrow

cw, Friday, 11 April 2008 09:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I see. ... all seats are going to be same price, aren't they: best part of £30?

amazing what Merritt can get away with these days.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 10:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i paid 51 quid for two with booking fee, i've had a look at the seating plan and the hall looks lovely, i can't imagine theres a bad seat

cw, Friday, 11 April 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

both nights now appear sold out, for this limited edition pre-order shenanigan.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 April 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link

m'kay, so neither of the only two enlightened souls I know who would be prepared to pay £25 to go to this can make it. do i buy two anyway and hope I find someone nearer the time who's prepared to take one, or just the one and go all on my lonesome?

Upt0eleven, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

The "limited" in the Friday release just seemed to mean they were only selling tickets in the stalls, rather than they were not available to the public. Slightly douchey demand-creation through artificial scarcity. Meh.

Anyway, stalls are sold out the first night, but the other night and the gallery on the first night are still available. I got two right in the middle of the front row (!)

caek, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever sat in the front row at a gig before. I don't think I'm going to like it.

caek, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I get the impression Wed is all sold out now, and Thu seems to be a bare handful of places left. He really has become a fastselling exclusive draw. Maybe this venue is actually not that big and that helps to give this impression?

It is odd to remember what scuffed and modest indie-pop type venues / events Merritt used to play. I said 'remember' but don't really know (never saw him before Queen Elizabeth Hall 7.2000), but I get that impression from live recordings, other people's anecdotes, etc.

the pinefox, Sunday, 13 April 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I was under the impression that he doesn't like playing live due to some aural medical condition. Probably explained in this thread somewhere.

As Cadogan Hall's website informs me the capacity is 900, which is big but not huge considering the catchment area is the pretty much the whole of London. Still a bit surprised that he's sold out so quickly though.

Upt0eleven, Sunday, 13 April 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

word is merge is releasing vinyl editions of 'the charm of the highway strip' and 'get lost', possibly others.

-- omar little, Thursday, 10 April 2008 04:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Confirmed: http://houseoftomorrow.com/archives/000068.php

caek, Thursday, 17 April 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

From what I heard of Magnetic Fields, I figure them to be a band of lots of misses and a few strong hits.. like Guided By Voices.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 17 April 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

From what I heard of Magnetic Fields, I figure them to be a band of lots of misses and a few strong hits.. like Guided By Voices.

Not a bad comparison, but I find Magnetic Fields to be much more consistent than GBV. Pollard's release-it-all approach results in patchy albums but you're right that the strong hits are there for both bands. It seems people have a strong reaction, positive or negative, to Magnetic Fields. Personally I think _69 Loves Songs_ is just about perfect whereas a good friend of mine can't stand it. *shrug*

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 17 April 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link


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