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Setting the aural mood this time are Moby, India.Arie, Goldfrapp, Mogwai

basically the 21st century equivalent of the music used in the series.

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 July 2006 07:59 (seventeen years ago) link

moby=phil collins ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought the s/t was by the rza...

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

when is the movie released by the way ? i'm not feeling it at all (no flashy clothes, cars etc + awful cast = no fun).

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link

there will be clothes and cars, just not from the '80s.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

well, the thing is you could wear flashy clothes from now. they just chose not to, apparently (and that would have been more interesting if there were no clothes at all !).

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

so it's half set in miami, not set in the 80's, will have none of the original music, therefore = none of the original MV culture.

Why even get excited by this?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a michael mann film!!!!!!!

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

whaddaya wants, 'S.W.A.T. 2'?

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

stick to the original series DVD's i say.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

from that Voice review

"But it's not often enough noted that Mann is the creator of many strong female characters"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't seen so this is part-guess, but mann isn't interested in the series. but because the name has brand recognition it is useful to him in making a movie. which is what he's done. i like the series but don't see the point in doing a feature length version of it.

xpost

hahaha!

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

more or less every line in the vv review is like, O RLY?

But as is often the case in Mann's films, there is also a romance...

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.laweekly.com/general/features/a-manns-mans-world/14073/

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"It is the story of the night and the city and the men who inhabit it"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Inevitably, there will come a woman, and with her the momentary illusion of a 'normal' life. And just as inevitably, that hoped-for bliss will prove as out of reach as Proust’s dream of fair Albertine. This is not always the story, for Michael Mann has made a historical epic about the French and Indian War..." (continues)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"What I am describing here is not some adolescent when-men-were-men fantasy (on my part or Mann’s)"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"we’re interrupted by a cell phone call. It’s Mann’s wife, Summer, asking about a replacement ink cartridge for their home computer printer. The interlude is a powerful corrective to those who might imagine that Mann’s Spartan protagonists are somehow alter-egos or examinations of self: Michael Mann has a wife."

this guy is a genius.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

but it's shitty that la weekly and vv run with the same review.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be fine if the review was interesting!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"michael mann has a wife" is the new "killy has a bf"

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess (doesn't really bother me, i don't live in either place) but shdn't the alternapress be about diversity in ten cities and ting? plus i know an underemployed LAW contributor...

xpost

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree but if a) the NY one sucked and b) the LA one was good, I'd rather read the LA one. In NY. Of course this is the new world of VV Media, where it ALL sucks!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean VV media is a national company with national reach. I'd almost rather they behave like a national alternative newspaper than pretend to be local.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

this is one of the craziest-looking movies i have ever seen

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

So it's beyond good or bad?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that probably pretty accurately sums it up, yes.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Nietzsche, director.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

no that would be tony scott.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i have hung out with miami drug kingpins but they were lame because i am 25 years too late just like this movie

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

have fun with the reviews

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Steve Rhodes, INTERNET REVIEWS

hi, i write for INTERNET REVIEWS.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 27 July 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

HI SLOCKI I NEED TO KNOW IF I SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON THIS

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i will spend money on this no matter what!

scott foundas is a complete hack writer. is j. hoberman on vacation? is michael atkinson sick?

― gear (gear), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

haha my friend was told by his girlfriend that "maybe you need to see this with, like, one of your friends or something." brodown at miami vice seems only appropriate.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Critics IamQnzplaya05 0 5 minutes ago
This seems like another formulaic movie for heterosexuals arthurs-1 15 14 minutes ago
video game? evbatboy 0 18 minutes ago
Thief is Michael's best DJTL 8 20 minutes ago
And..Yet..another scathing review... Captaincaca 22 21 minutes ago
Terrence Howard Or Jamie Foxx as TUBBS ? ChilliCheeseDog 49 28 minutes ago
Mann, Stupid People, Miami Vice.... Admiral-6 6 29 minutes ago
I Take Back Everything I've Said... chappedass2001 72 30 minutes ago
Snakes On A Plane tom03eo25 6 30 minutes ago
Better Than Bad Boy II? Getemboy2004 5 37 minutes ago

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i tried to get my bros to see 'miami vice' and they were all like, 'eh'. i guess they had to go knit or something, lol. so yeah i'm going to end up seeing it with my gf, though her enthusiasm for the film is somewhat muted compared to mine. i don't know why, i don't see how the formula of 'guns + grizzle + gong li' cannot result in anything other than funtime.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

cuz fuckin Colin Farrell is in it? I liked "Heat" okay but the cult of Michael Mann mystifies me - this looks like super-shiny garbage.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not very shiny, actually.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still trying to figure out my take on this... but i guess i'd say there was some stuff i loved but it ultimately felt like 2/3rds of a movie. some fucking AMAZING-looking stuff though. i was actually quite shocked how dark and grainy, gainy, and generally video-y he let it look. ultimately i think collateral may have been more successfully, visually (combining the video with the film was actually quite a good idea in retrospect).

i would say... get really high and see this.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

oh that's just code for "this blows"

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually kinda like colin farrell in this, though him and jamie foxx are pretty much ciphers. still i dug no backstory & no lame wisecracking. very SERIOUS.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked "Heat" okay but the cult of Michael Mann mystifies me

i like michael mann a lot and i think heat is one of his most run-of-the-mill endeavors. it's not a great movie (or even a great premise), it just has big "actor's studio" type stars and it caught the public attention at the right time.

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm just glad it's not an ironic piss-take of a film

― gear (gear), Thursday, 27 July 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

heat is great, mann is great, i will like this no matter what.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the average member of the public would have trouble remembering Heat unprompted.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 July 2006 08:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno, the "famous confrontation of two of Hollywood's etc etc" is repeated in clip shows and whatnot often enough.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

haha Medulla Oblongta speech got the first spontaneous audience cheer since (ugh) Fahrenheit 911.

I can see why some people don't get it, the Havana scenes and some of the buddy interaction were stilted, but good God when Mann is focused and stripped down it is indeed BADASS.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i kind of think that A MICHAEL MANN film that stayed true to the style and era of original miami vice could have been a high water mark for our 80s obsessed generation. if he's completely updated it then i don't see the point. i haven't seen it yet but it's the first film this summer that's grabbed my attention.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The point = explosions! camraderie! stilted, technical tough-guy dialogue! Gong Li!

A Michael Mann film with a complete disregard for mainstream movie conventions - no romance, no family life, even less closure - might just be the greatest film ever.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 28 July 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

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