Puta Madre! The Pedro Almodovar Poll

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old movies vs new movies

warmsherry, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, it kind of was. No votes for Flower of My Secret.

bamcquern, Sunday, 22 November 2009 19:20 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Broken Embraces was sorta like bad de Palma.

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:34 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

sadly, ^this is kinda true; 'girls and suitcases' is a great title tho, and seemed more interesting than the rest of the plot

johnny crunch, Saturday, 26 December 2009 04:55 (ten years ago) link

that's cuz it was women on teh verge!

reagan & sarah (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 December 2009 17:30 (ten years ago) link

hey Bad Education is maybe even better than I remembered.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 January 2010 01:47 (ten years ago) link

so great

Underrated half-assterpiece (Matt P), Friday, 1 January 2010 01:50 (ten years ago) link

rented 'talk to her' last weekend but didn't get to see it :(

watched the scott walker documentary and part of 'our hitler' instead

Underrated half-assterpiece (Matt P), Friday, 1 January 2010 01:51 (ten years ago) link

watched what have i done to deserve this? - it's good!

seeing as ive only seen the top-3 finishers in this poll (plus broken embraces) im planning to gradually go thru the rest in the near future

johnny crunch, Monday, 4 January 2010 22:47 (ten years ago) link

Broken Embraces was engaging but somewhat anticlimactic.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Monday, 4 January 2010 23:00 (ten years ago) link

What is the best movie to see Rossy de Palma in?

all the early ones.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2010 23:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Really enjoyed Broken Embraces but sort of struggled to defend it to the (not impressed) friend I'd seen it with

"I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Thursday, 4 February 2010 08:35 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Has anyone seen Kika? It looks really quirky/awesome/etc (plus Rossy de Palma!) but I'm worried I'd find this whole lolrapey thing really really uncomfortable

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 30 January 2011 17:04 (nine years ago) link

I saw it a looooooooong time ago, can't really remember squat.

Feeling really uncomfortable is not always/usually a bad thing.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 January 2011 17:29 (nine years ago) link

His worst nineties film: mannered and clammy.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:23 (nine years ago) link

yea hte lolrapey stuff is uncomfortable, in not a good way imo

johnny crunch, Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:27 (nine years ago) link

I suppose the vagaries of international casting demanded that Peter Coyote get cast in a non-English role

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:29 (nine years ago) link

I saw Kika and Bitter Moon back to back in spring '94 and thought that Jeremy Irons was finally getting competition in the masochistic lech department.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 January 2011 18:30 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

i watched dark habits, not great but g-ddamn look at this poster

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Entre_Tinieblas.jpg

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:06 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm kind of obsessed with the trailer for The Skin I Live In

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GO9Nd92B5k

Alba, Sunday, 24 July 2011 22:02 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

And singer Buika is in the movie

Buika--Afro-Spanish Singer (Who's more than just one of NPR's "50 Great Voices")

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Anyone watched The Skin I'm In yet? I'm dubious.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:24 (eight years ago) link

*Skin I Live In

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 18:24 (eight years ago) link

Nope, and I haven't read the book its adapted from either a Thierry Jonquet novel.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i'm kind of mixed on this dude, but the new one looks pretty intriguing.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:35 (eight years ago) link

I liked it. Nice and twisted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 21:45 (eight years ago) link

It's awesome. Totally, utterly unique.

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 22:16 (eight years ago) link

so 'tie me up! tie me down!' is pretty hilarious/terrible, huh?

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:22 (eight years ago) link

was good & compelling imo

johnny crunch, Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:00 (eight years ago) link

I do miss the Almodovar movies in which Antonio Banderas was ravished by men.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:03 (eight years ago) link

have sat through a lot of this guy's movies and don't get the appeal

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:06 (eight years ago) link

Almodovar invented Antonio Banderas, homosexuality, makeup, nuns, screwball comedy, and Caetano Veloso.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:09 (eight years ago) link

is he known for comedy? everything I've seen has been pretty much straight melodrama

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:10 (eight years ago) link

facepalm

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:11 (eight years ago) link

Have you seen Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown or What Have I Done To Deserve This?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:11 (eight years ago) link

i guess tbf he really has more melodrama than comedy to his name at this point

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:13 (eight years ago) link

why are you guys acting as if melodrama and comedy are mutually exclusive?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:13 (eight years ago) link

let's see, I have seen:

Volver
Talk to Her
All About My Mother
Kika (I think...? This might have been the one where I fell asleep in the theater)

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:17 (eight years ago) link

AAMM has some laugh out loud moments.

Kika is horrid.

Conclusion: you're missing out.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:18 (eight years ago) link

but even the most dramatic of these are pretty funny in places? and the comedies rely on seriousness to a degree. maybe arch just does not connect at all to certain sensibilities?

x-post

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:18 (eight years ago) link

shakey you should check out live flesh! and bad education. i think those two are my favorites. love 'women on the verge' too.

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:20 (eight years ago) link

I'll admit that I'm biased because I understand the Spanish and chuckle at how well he reproduces the vulgar inside jokes between family members (at which Volver excelled).

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 November 2011 00:21 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

is there a thread on 'the skin i live in'?

thought it was amaaazing, triggered a revulsion/phobic response i didn't even know i had

Crackle Box, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:31 (eight years ago) link

There is a thread; I'll find it.

I found it dreadful: his worst since the mid nineties.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Watched it last night and thought it was fantastic. I'm not an enormous Almodovar fan, though.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 30 January 2012 13:45 (eight years ago) link

i managed to find whiney's terribly unfindable thread on it: PEDRO_o Almodo_Ovar: The Skin I'm In , but there was another one, right? i just watched it and i'm not entirely sure what i thought, but "revulsion/phobic response i didn't even know i had" is certainly right. i can't think of much else that had that kind of gnawing implicit horror for me.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:37 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I found it mostly hilarious.

ledge, Monday, 27 February 2012 12:25 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

spanish govt saying almodovar dead

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:03 (eight years ago) link

never mind, hoax, sorry!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, The Skin I'm In seems extremely unpleasant to me as well.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 22:39 (nine months ago) link

I dug it but Broken Embraces is much less schticky, p much just a straight noir, very compelling

flappy bird, Thursday, 3 October 2019 00:57 (nine months ago) link

Antonio Banderas is warm and wary and watchful in a way he's never been; he deserves the acclaim. His scene with the ex-lover is poignant. Otherwise, I can't explain the acclaim for this second-tier Almodovar other than critics are suckers for films about films.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:17 (eight months ago) link

are you referring to Pain and Glory?

Dan S, Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:22 (eight months ago) link

yeah

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:23 (eight months ago) link

This; plus the borrowing from Taste of Cherry in the last shot.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 00:12 (eight months ago) link

just got out of P&G, really enjoyed it. wasn't like rapturously engaged or crying thru the closing credits - just engaged and interested and sympathetic the whole way. i appreciated the loose-threadyness of it - "loose" in something like the way "messy" is used as a compliment. the ex-lover scene was the high point for sure but there was a lot of great stuff.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 01:32 (eight months ago) link

xp Whoa!

Seeing this in a week

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 02:00 (eight months ago) link

Really liked it. Circuitous and laconic and reflective. Not the sort of career spanning, packed with references to prior films sort of movie I was expecting, but a very good Almodóvar movie, probably his best since Broken Embraces in 2009.

This is pedantic but the ending doesn't borrow from Taste of Cherry - that would be like if the final dolly back to reveal the movie set also revealed Almodóvar himself at work, coaching Banderas. Kiarostami's appearance at the end of Taste of Cherry, where we see them making the movie we've just watched, is different than this more common film-within-a-film thing going on here.

It's nice to have another Almodóvar movie where he just sort of takes his time and it's not plot beat after plot beat. Oddly, in this way it reminded me most of I'm So Excited!!, which isn't really good otherwise.

flappy bird, Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:28 (eight months ago) link

I disagree: the last 45 minutes consisted of his minder, lover, and Alberto expressing their gratitude toward him, hence my relief when his mom said, "You were a disappointment."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:36 (eight months ago) link

the biggest laugh of the movie

with a less charismatic and self-effacing actor/performance, I probably would've found the Autofiction 101 irritating. but I enjoyed watching Banderas call into his own Q&A high on heroin wearing gigantic sunglasses. he's really funny in this, I found the character endearing enough to hang.

flappy bird, Monday, 21 October 2019 03:39 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

Thanks, an interesting read. Let me know if you happen to spot the Spanish version anywhere.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:49 (two months ago) link

Sorry, even the most cursory google would suffice to find it: https://www.eldiario.es/autores/pedro_almodovar/

brain (krakow), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:51 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

I'd got an email the other week that Pain & Glory was being added to Mubi on 19th June, but it didn't mention that it's actually part of a deal with Pathé that is going to add a whole bunch of Almodóvar films (and other stuff of course):

https://www.screendaily.com/news/mubi-strikes-uk-ireland-content-deal-with-pathe-exclusive/5150678.article

The Almodóvar titles mentioned...

All About My Mother (Pedro Almodóvar, 1999)
Bad Education (Pedro Almodóvar, 2004)
I’m So Excited (Pedro Almodóvar, 2013)
Live Flesh (Pedro Almodóvar, 1997)
Los Abrazos Rotos (Pedro Almodóvar, 2009)
Pain & Glory (Pedro Almodóvar, 2019)
Talk To Her (Pedro Almodóvar, 2002)
The Skin I Live In (Pedro Almodóvar, 2011)
Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down (Pedro Almodóvar, 1989)
Volver (Pedro Almodóvar, 2006)

A good few I've not seen, so excellent news for me.

brain (krakow), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:14 (two weeks ago) link


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