Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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I've only watched half of my 03-04 Season Review WITH RAY STUBBS so far; the highlights are inevitably edited in such a way that gives the impression that, if only our finishing had been a little better, we'd have been top three by Xmas. We did pummel Chelsea for no reward though (Nyarko - Nyarko! - hitting the bar, Mutu scoring with his arm). The 30/8/03 Goodison derby is thankfully glossed over.

Unfortunately, the disc is FAULTY. It jumps straight from Big Les peeling away after slamming home a freekick for Leicester at Goodison the week before Xmas to the Norwich FA Cup tie three games later - missing FIVE EFC goals! Maybe I should QC the other discs before drafting my letter of complaint.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh dear.

In general, I don't like those posthumous commentaries. I mean, with the benefit of hindsight commentaries.

You will be pleased to hear I am proofing Alexei Sayle.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

There is no proof for Alexei Sayle, you just have to believe in Him.

Stubbsy manages to keep the tone chipper in his linking voiceovers even though he knows the season will end in miserable failure. I don't recognise the match commentators (possibly EFC's own) but they're inarticulate enough to convince you that they were there at the time. We do get a dash of Rooney-in-excelsis from 02-03 with Clive T mixed very quietly.

Me and the missus are currently moving cut-outs around on graph paper in an effort to solve a househunting quandary. Little time for luxuriating in McFadden's wasted potential today.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

LJ Kruzer is sitting in your place.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, if I'd known my seat was going to go to him I'd have left all my Can MP3s on the C-drive.

I see "sources close to" little Mikey Owen say Everton were one of the clubs (see also: Bolton W, Schalke, Hexham Rheostatics) initially laughed out of the room linked with the "unsettled England star". I wonder if yr modern L'pool fan would find his seemingly impending move to Old Trafford last palatable than one to Goodison?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

less, not last

bless, not blast

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I am hoping that Ickle Michael's post-LFC career trajectory now follows that of R. Fowler.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I am eating an Everton mint.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The thought of Michael Owen playing for Man U is pretty sickening, though not as sickening as it would be if he went to Chelsea.

In response to Michael's question, I don't think I'd be as disgusted if he went to Everton, as Man U, possibly cos I'm not from Liverpool, or possibly because I fear Man U more!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think there is one English club that would suit Owen right now which is quite scary. Maybe Milan or Juve should pick him up.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Owen-to-United is a good instance of the vacuity of footy talk in the so-called media and that. Days of it - then it emerges that they aren't that interested in him anyway.

Lots of clubs or teams could be improved by his insertion. Everton are one of them. So are Liverpool, maybe!

Also today: Benitez says that he's glad Mourinho is putting LFC down cos it means he's scared of them.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

If Rafa was starring in an American sitcom it would be called Good Comeback! If not Tell It To My Hand (The One That Isn't Holding A European Cup For Keepsies).

But he let himself down a bit by empthasising the importance of Gerrard re "He will win more trophies for us...soon" Better to play down the one-man show thing surely.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, his comeback reminds me of a Boy George-apologist schoolfriend of mine (who is now Big In Tha Theatre) whose response to Spitting Image's "War is naughty, people who start wars should be sent to bed early" pisstake was to say that it proved Culture Club were still important.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Why would Boy George need apologists? His A-Team cameo wasn't THAT bad.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Today I read in the Independent (there) that Anthony Le Tallec is leaving LFC for Sunderland on a year's loan. He comments: "At Liverpool it is very difficult to play every week".

Yes - it often looked that way, last season.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

(I know, they are Champions of Europe!)

the bellefox, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Return of the high ball game:

Everton 1-0 Udinese
Simon Davies scored Everton's winner against Udinese but the Merseysiders produced a less than convincing show.
Davies stabbed home a knock down from Duncan Ferguson as the Toffees prepared for their Champions League qualifier against Villarreal on Tuesday.

Villarreal assistant coach Ruben Cousillas was at the game as Everton's lack of firepower seemed to be exposed.

Everton only scored after reverting to the high ball game and have just three goals in five pre-season friendlies.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Knock it long to the big lad.

If these are the tactics that Everton are to employ thins season, then I'll be liking them very much indeed. Football as it should be played. They have their beliefs.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I said thins when I meant to say this. It's part of my ongoing absession with cheesy biscuits, and should be disregarded.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Have you got some cheesy biscuits? All I've got is a poxy apple, and I'm not eating that!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

If I had cheesy biscuits, I wouldn't be obsessing about them. I would be scoffing them.

Above, I also said absession when I should have said obsession. This was not an effect of my obsession, but simply a typographical error.

Peter Crouch has hurt his leg and his mum says he's not allowed to play with the rough boys for three weeks. Everton want to buy Philip Neville, but I worry that the Neville boys will be sad if they are split up.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

They will be able to text each other.

It is a shame about Crouch, the fucking beanpole.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Philip Neville goes toffee:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/4744383.stm

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil Neville can't play for toffee!

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi, David!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link

He can play for peanuts, evidently.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, can't think of a really good monkey joke.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Everton only scored after reverting to the high ball game and have just three goals in five pre-season friendlies.

I refer the casual reader to the 9-0 mauling of crack Austrian transgendered electro-outfit Terre Thaemlitz, described earlier in this thread.

Neville is a bit of a bolt from the blue. I didn't expect it at all. A strange consolation prize if we fail to land Baros.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe that was a pre-pre-season friendly.

I once scored two goals against the Cubs when I was about 16.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Everton lost, then.

I think they can still make it through though.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

They (Everton) were a little unlucky. Villareal won it with a half chance. I like the midfield of Arteta, Neville and Cahill. Davies not so much.

Their talents are a little bypassed when Big Dunc comes on.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

We're not quite good enough at this level; it's a shame Osman and Kroldrup weren't fit enough to figure. Never looked likely to score after their second goal.

Oh well, we were frequently better away from home last season - a performance like the one at Villa Park in March would see us through.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I have erased that from my memory, along with everything else.

Will you make my wife your Flickr friend, please? She is trying to see the Ava pix, but is being rebuffed.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

(I don't know how to do this for a Flickr user I've never encountered; can't she make me her contact, then I can accept that and then make her my friend? I did a search for A******a, found five but I'm not which one is yr missus).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

(Oh, scratch that - the 4th one is obviously her. It is done.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

why on earth was the Everton match not on TV last night? I had 2 stations showing Man U's boring victory.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:49 (eighteen years ago) link

It was on tv here, either BBC1 or ITV2, can't remember which

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

BBC1 had the Man U game, I get ITV3 but not ITV2, sadly ITV3 mainly shows programmes lost in the annals of time. It's annoying, is ITV2 where all the games are on then? Cos last week I'd have watched Celtic above Liverpool, given there was something to play for, but again I had no choice.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

It was, I think, on ITV 2, according the the clips on the news. We haven't got ITV 2, and we can hardly see ITV 1. I'm not bovvered.

Thank you, Michael.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, she is the fourth one.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched some of the Everton match on ITV2.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, ITV2 - there's generally an alternate match on there during the group phase when ITV1 have the big ratings-puller. ITV2 also has the Everton second leg on 24/8.

(I think we have ITV3 on more than any other channel).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Those repeats of Never The Twain and Rumpole Of The Bailey ARE irresistable it's true...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link

ITV3 has Midsummer Murders. The old series too with Sergeant Troy. Brilliant.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Midsomer! Oh, the Leerdammer commercials! My aching sides!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

If they showed the same adverts that came inbetween the programmes when they were first shown I would watch THOSE.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

ITV3 condense the original two hour shows into 90 minutes and many episodes now make no sense, "cut out that bit with Gabrielle Drake burying the body in the garden, it's not important."

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, do they? I thought they still had 2-hr slots, or do they only reserve those for the sainted Jason and Thaw?

I find it had to imagine Midsomer Murders being any longer than it seems on ITV3.

(Only a flurry of CSKA goals will break this thread digression).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought ManYoo on the Beeb was a bizarre choice in the circs although I have ITV2.

Everton hard up against it. They were unfortunate that Villareal scored with 2 half chances, although V could also have had a pen. E are going to have to score at least 2 over there, a tall order, V impressed me defensively and it looks like they can create goals out of nothing. Some of their passing didn't impress me as much as it did the commentary team, they seemed to get nervous when aggressively closed down, but they may be better at home. Everton will need a large slice of luck, I think, to progress.

frankiemachine, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link


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