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― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Friday, 19 August 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

shit - i'll have to wait till monday to get those. oh swoon -i think it just follows that he was a perv...seems like someone so full of life - really tuned in atleast ... just that amazing awareness of organic things, patterns and beauty yet wanting to take it further and make it all sexy and discofied ....mmmmmmmm. And definitely a lot of tenderness and sensuality coming out in his voice and lyrics.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Beta, is that 7" Pop Your Funk from this? http://www.tigersushi.com/site/frameset.jsp?page=Art.jsp&ArtId=3706

Thanks to everyone who uploaded tracks - the Russell discography is immensee ...

― Brakhage, Saturday, 20 August 2005 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link

re: his voice - i always heard it as a gentler vers of john martyn rather thatn the oft cited nick drake comparison. things like small hours off of one world have that same hazy playful introverted singing to my self feel. and the music slurs dreamily in a way drake never did.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

also obv dubspace and echoplex.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

he's never felt like nick drake to me either. i mean i can see why people compare them, but to me nick drakes voice is otherworldly and cold and a.r.'s is completly the opposite

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 20 August 2005 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

ok heres the other side of the felix track click

credited to nicky siano, produced by killer whale. i never dloaded the tiger stripes link above but on my 12 i think it turns into this halfwat through.

is that arthur singing bad lil kitten?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 20 August 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

All you YSI posters are Stars!!

Hmmm, you're right, but singing like a tortured poet and living like a dog in heat seem like polar opposites in sentimentality to me.

-- Confounded, August 19th, 2005

Polar opposites?? More like mutually reinforcing characteristics!

― LRJP! (LRJP!), Saturday, 20 August 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess so. having read that it was reminiscent of Merzbow, i begged Mr. Audika for a rip of it. i'm with Dan though, in that the most crucial (re: the ones that will convert you) Arthur disco trax are to be found only on the Disco Not Disco comps, not World of. think i slightly grumble about that here: http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/r/russell_arthur/world-of.shtml

― b8a, Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks so much for the 'pop your funk' 7" YSI. i had so wanted to hear that for so long. out there!!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 20 August 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

someone requested on the ysi-thread, but i guess it's not out of place on this thread: Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again 12"

― willem (willem), Sunday, 21 August 2005 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks willem. Listening to this I found out that the Kiss Me Again on the Disco Not Disco comp is actually the b-side version.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

sorta...there's 2 Kiss Me Again 12"s. They both have the same 12 minute version on the a side, one has the 6 minute version on the b side, that's the edit that's on Disco Not Disco, the other version has a 13 or so minute dub mix which sounds more like the 12 minute version then the edit. I think the one featuring the edit is clear red vinyl. I used to have both but gave the one with the edit to a very deserving friend seeing as how I have the edit on Disco Not Disco, and he'd given my RIS's Love and Music, an even more expensive 12".

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for clearing that up Dan!

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

no problem, I just downloaded what Willem kindly posted, which is the 12 min and a side with the "version" flipside, Great stuff. The 6 minute edit version is easier to find but I just tried to upload it here:

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZEPZVUO4B0VJ0TM2RV74MEMYI

hope that works

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 21 August 2005 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Dan, much obliged

― Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

What a feast these past few days! I'm gonna make a CD-R w/all these on and bliss out.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 21 August 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Played "Song IV" on my radio show Friday night. I think it might've lost some of the micro-dub detail over the airwaves, but it was fun, anyway. Thanks!

― I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 21 August 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

hey, did anyone else notice this on the audika site?

Springfield is the title of a long lost Arthur Russell Electro/Club track that has remained unheard until now, and it’s an absolutely mind boggling, classic dance track!!! Arthur recorded close to four hours of music with the intention of having someone complete and remix the composition. As all of Arthur’s dance music was done in collaboration, we were committed to finding the best. We are excited to announce that our friends the DFA will be handling the chores of mixing and editing the track for release also in October.

*head explodes*

― haitch (haitch), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

not sure this is done just yet but it is true...

― Beta (abeta), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

hi, i found a compilation on slsk calling itself "arthur on the floor", containing these tracks:

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54
Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23
Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50
Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18
Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21
Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30
Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38
Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00
Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12
Go Bang! 5:37
Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56

can't find out much from google; i was wondering if anyone here knows if this saw a proper release, or if it's just someone's homemade digitization of the twelve-inches. any help is much appreciated.

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

definately not an official release.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

damn. i was holding out a faint hope of getting my hands on a copy. oh well. thanks for your help though.

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

There must be multiple releases of Wax the Van because my 12" only has 2 cuts.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

it would be nice to hear version beyond whats on World of Arthur Russell - i've thought was kind of crappy

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

well, here's the comp i was asking about. sorry if it's too big.

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3IMCKDJ17J8JJ1B2A5ZHECYV0Q

― rmd (dj gauge transformation), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't realize 'til now that the above "Arthur on the floor" track listing was something definitively/broadly disseminated, having just got it given to me by a friend when I was starting to become consumed by Arthur. I can't recommend listening to all the "Schoolbell/Treehouse" and "Let's Go Swimming" mixes as one murky chunk highly enough, though. I love how each mix is a little continuation of the other; it's a great intro to his work.

― Craig Dunsmuir, Monday, 22 August 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, in case no one noticed it, there's a lovely Arthur mix on the "heart" page of Audika's site right now, from a tribute to him on his 51st birthday recently. Mostly released tracks mixed with sounds of the sea, but definitely a couple ('World of Echo'-style) tracks I haven't heard before in the mix.

― I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

who's gonna pust the Loft box-set version of Is It All Over My Face in all it's hippie jam glory?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i had no idea the one on the loft box set was another version. i had always just assumed it was the 12" version and thus have never even played it! i shall look it out tomorrow.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

it's uploading now. i love that version about 100x more than the original.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a Loft Box set !!???

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

stir...oh man dude no way! It's a totally different like, demo version, sounds more like some hippie band drum circle then a raw disco track. On another note, I'm about to revive a Renegade Soundwave thread to ask some questions, so please look for that...

walter...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00001ZTY0/103-6549972-3840612?v=glance

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

there are two loft box sets. x post.

yeah dan. how dumb am i? will look out for the revived rsw thread.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/release/24211

http://www.discogs.com/release/104215

xxp again

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Not really "box-sets" in the usual sense (just double CDs with a cardboard sleeve). That said, the music is perfect, and the design is beautiful.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

is it all over my face 11:55"

the vinyls are boxed.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh ok. I was picturing (hoping for) some kind of 10 disc epic thing.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost - Ah! I get it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the vinyl came in a nice box, and the liner notes, 12" x 12" featured some discussion about a few of the tracks. I thought it was weird to only have a few so I emailed nuphonic to see if I was missing anything. Nope. There's also a complimentary 10" featuring another version of Risco Connection's beautiful Ain't No Stopping Us Now. I think the box set was presented as a bootleg killer, as people like me were spending lots of money buying those Loft and Garage Classics bootlegs...I remember Mancuso/Nuphonic stating that explicitely. But those are great bootlegs and I still bring them around with me for the convenience of having key songs on one record. First place I heard How Much are They?, Don Ray's Standing in the Rain, It Ain't Reggae, Delirium, Double Journey etc etc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and stirmonster, I know you dig Love Heartache cuz you played it on Beats in Space, but have you heard the weird Vinyl Mania tribute record that came out recently with the Tom Moulton mix? It's on the Crazy Rhythms CD.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

yup, i picked up that love heartache doublepack last time i was in nyc dan. btw, really enjoying your mix cd.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks. andwhilewe're(ok me)talkingaboutmymix...for those who want to support the arts:

http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I had some downtime at work so I thought I would decode the Arthur on the Floor comp for obsessives like myself (I like my ID3 tags as close to 'reality' as I can get):

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Walter Gibbons mix] 10:12
= Indian Ocean: School Bell/Treehouse from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)
http://www.discogs.com/release/95379

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.1] 6:54
= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)
http://www.discogs.com/release/95379

Treehouse/Schoolbell [Arthur Russell mix.2] 3:23
= Indian Ocean: Treehouse/School Bell (Short Version) from School Bell/Treehouse 12" (12 BRW 57 DJ)
http://www.discogs.com/release/435779

Let's Go Swimming [Walter Gibbons Coastal dub] 7:50
Let's Go Swimming [Gulf Stream dub] 5:18
Let's Go Swimming [Puppy Surf mix] 5:21 (actually Puppy Surf Dub)
= Arthur Russell: Let's Go Swimming 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/372073

Wax the Van [Kenny's club version] 5:30
Wax the Van [Cherry's Club] 5:38
Wax the Van [radio edit] 4:00
Wax the Van [Jon's dub] 7:12
= Lola: Wax the Van 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/98656

not sure about these next two:

Go Bang! 5:37
= Dinosaur L: Go Bang (Dinosaur L Bangs Again) from Go Bang 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/335007

Is it All Over My Face? [Larry Levan mix] 6:56
Loose Joints: Is It All Over My Face (Female Vocal/Larry Levan Mix) from Is It All Over My Face 12"
http://www.discogs.com/release/231272

Now if I could just figure out where my 9:28 version of Let's Go Swimming comes from ...

― Brakhage (brakhage), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Dinosaur L Bangs Again is straight up a house version, released after Todd Terry's Bango I believe, and is noticeably different. Kinda fun though. Which version of Treehouse/Schoolbell appears on Disco Not Disco 1?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 August 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Should be the b-side to School Bell/Treehouse 12" (SLX-023X)

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The non-Gibbons mix.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

If my Dinosaur L Bangs Again attribution is wrong, then I'm stumped. Dunno where that one comes from.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks. andwhilewe're(ok me)talkingaboutmymix...for those who want to support the arts:
http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

I wasn't aware it was you! Killer tracklist. I ordered it last week, it should arrive soon...

― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

also, thanks to all those who provided (the info on) the 'on the floor' comp. i had that one on my old computer, glad to have it back!

― willem (willem), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link

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