Lady Gaga needs her own thread

frankenstein of a song otm

i've got this mash-up of the choruses and nonsense hooks from "bad romance" and "poker face" that gets in my head on occasion, but i still get bored when i hear either song (seeing is a bit more engaging) and couldn't sing the verses for you. it's like if young madonna wanted to be old madonna.

"bad romance" would be ok if it didn't rely on that same plodding gaga drum beat

I like "paparazzi" though

poker poker poker poker OOH LA GAGA GAHH

poker poker poker poker MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

I like "Poker Face" but don't really get "Bad Romance" yet---the vocals never really soar like they do on the chorus of "Poker Face", and so there's no resolution to the tension of the "plodding gaga drum beat". It's not a bad song, but I don't hear a monster here.

I understand that both work the same formula but I just think "Bad Romance" does it way better, cooler chant part, better chorus melody, better lyrics, etc.

"poker face" really earwormed me but it's not that satisfactory to actually listen to, unlike "bad romance" - her vocals in the "poker face" verses are really flat and perfunctory, whereas on "bad romance" they actually match the campy, theatrical words. the production on "bad romance" is a lot more varied and interesting too, and of course she doesn't rap about "bluffing with my muffin"

Just Dance > Bad Romance > Paparazzi > Poker Face >>> LoveGame

"Just Dance"? Does that song even still exist?

i dont think i can live in a world where al shilpey loves a lady gaga song

i actually find it sort of hilarious that everyone, including myself, has caved now

yeah upthread i think i mentioned that i was intending to never hear another song of hers, lest i cease loathing her. but "bad romance" is good :(

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bill baggs!

i actually find it sort of hilarious that everyone, including myself, has caved now

― lex pretend, Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:04 AM Bookmark

sorry pop, still screwfacin'

I HAVE NOT CAVED YET.

I said reevaluating. Not converted.

yeah i still consider her a bad artist and a below-average member of the species fwiw

"telephone" is even better than "bad romance" imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCs9rxGZlyQ

but you can't deny the obvious "Gaga Effect" that's taken place in music since her arrival

but you can't deny the obvious "Gaga Effect" that's taken place in music since her arrival

but you can't deny the obvious "Gaga Effect" that's taken place in music since her arrival

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classy

jordan's posts itt are hilarious

One good single in five hardly marks her as essential at this point.

i don't just not dislike lady gaga, i full on like her, but i've got a reluctance about it that's probably why you're all so uncomfortable about coming around to it, too. like it's cool, i'll take it, i'm down with it, but aren't we used to something a little bit better?

top 40 music has always been kinda "it's cool, i'll take it, i'm down with it, but aren't we used to something a little bit better?"

"Bad Romance" and "Poker Face" are stored in the Tony Orlando & Dawn zone of my brain (note: the exact percentage of my brain which is the Tony Orlando & Dawn portion has not been experimentally determined yet and may in fact be 100%)

xp what i meant was, but aren't we used to something a little better from mega huge big deal pop stars. my expectations for the rest of the top 40 are low, obviously.

The Fame Monster is actually quite good, maybe? Like...not just serviceable. Perhaps I'm just pleased to hear some variety. Who knows?

Speechless is really clicking with me today. It works that epic piano/guitar ballad angle very very well. It's not the Beatles (although that opening guitar slide is directly copped from Abbey Road) and it's not Elton, but I can't place who she's stealing from here. It's frustrating. Nonetheless, despite the weird GaGa metaphors and lines about "bubble dreams" and "Johnny Walker eyes" she now has a song that lets her really indulge in vocal melodrama, and acquits herself quite well. It's not attention-grabbing in the way that Telephone is or as perfectly 80s as Dancing in the Dark, but it's an unexpectedly welcome turn.

top 40 music has always been kinda "it's cool, i'll take it, i'm down with it, but aren't we used to something a little bit better?"

― broski dawg (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:26 PM (28 minutes ago)

this is a general-ass statement

That said, the line about "Raise a glass to mend all the broken hearts of all my wrecked-up friends" def. sounds like "rectal" when she slurs it.

i like this song too fwiw. pretty epically constructed track

I just wish I could puzzle of the referent. It's something really obvious. There is SOMEONE who does this kind of piano thing alll the time and it's basically a pro forma version of their steez. This is endlessly annoying, especially since it's normally so OBVIOUS who she's cribbing from. (Not a critique. The musical magpie trait of GaGa is one of her best - see Poker Face's rescue of one glorious melodic line of Aqua's Barbie Girl from an otherwise grating song, Alejandro's Ace of Base-isms, etc.)

Anyone know what I'm talking about viz. Speechless, or am I totally insane.

re: her style in particular -- i really, really liked it at first. it's right up my alley. but i can see it getting old really fast. i mean, if she continues doing the same "crazy, different" thing, it's not going to be exciting anymore. who knows tho, it's early yet.

xp alex, maybe queen? my wife was noting similarities, altho no specific examples come to mind

bad romance is a rly rly great chorus

i cant understand liking her right away ... her presumptuousness was pretty unbearable

man she is severely superfluous on that B track

xp i had reservations but i got over them pretty quickly, altho i think her "weirdness" doesn't show up on record nearly as often or as intensely as i'd like.

there was zero weirdness on tracks like "let's dance"

thats what i mean, she makes pretty standard dance music for all her fashion eccentricities

for pop music, i would think bjork wearing a swan dress to the oscars is weird by most measures, if only because she seemed kind of surprised by ppl thinking it was weird. gaga's steez is a bit of an affectation, but it's at least fun imo.

*for comparison in pop music

I was always surprised that people were so surprised by Bjork wearing a swan dress at the Oscars. Putting her in the worst dressed of all time lists. It's Björk... She never dressed normally, did they expect her to arrive in a Versace satin boob dress?

i've got this mash-up of the choruses and nonsense hooks from "bad romance" and "poker face" that gets in my head on occasion, but i still get bored when i hear either song (seeing is a bit more engaging) and couldn't sing the verses for you.

― da croupier, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 13:00 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kinda have a pet theory that this is actually something that's subconsciously appealing in all gaga's stuff, some sort of maddening absent centre that's not just down to the whole distracting extraneous pr whirligig but seems to me to be something intrinsic to everything of hers - putting like and dislike aside for a second i'm always quite interested to sit thru any given gaga song again whenever one comes on, just to fill in the gap, and then lose it again. even her face! - i can never really exactly recall what she looks like. it's proper peculiar.

stranger still is that 'bad romance' is the one i don't having trouble remembering how it goes, despite i suppose it being gaga's most contorted ever on the face of it. not that i can back it up particularly intuitively but intuitively speaking i feel its her most linear song yet.

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underrated 'telephone' on autogoon yesterday btw! darkchild + harpsichords = massive cognitive yesss