the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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always saw the emperor/vader dynamic in IV-VI as a direct rip of the Saruman/Wormtongue relationship at the end of LOTR

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

disclaimer for george's lawyers- there are clearly no parallels to be drawn whatsoever from mr lucas's masterwork and tolkien's sprawling mess.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

which, let's not forget, didn't even exist until the late 90's AFAIK

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

From John Hodgman's Phantom Menace:

"at this point you will want to know what is the solution to the jar jar problem. i understand. everyone hates jar jar. in fact everything in my screenplay flows from this very simple fix and that is: replace him with sebulba."

someone transcribe this!
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=963

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link

you do it

itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm real glad that to this day i still have absolutely no idea what jar jar binks sounds like or what he says.

piscesx, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

to be honest it becomes a super bummer here:
"there's a reason I would work on my screenplay while falling asleep, at night, dozing in the hospital while my mother was dying, or when i was awake in bed in october 2001 listening for planes over NYC"

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

basically i think the ultimate obi-wan story for the first three would for him to have been this reckless, wisecracking guy. probably should have been older than ewan mcgregor, imo. like s1ocki said, the han solo of the prequels. anakin should have been more similar to luke skywalker in terms of age and maybe even very basic story arc, i think. i dunno.

― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 8:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo he should have followed luke's arc almost exactly up to the point where he chooses bad where luke chose good

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

the greatest crime of george lucas is tricking me into writing fan fiction :(

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

At least you're not writing jarjar slash...

I would rep for "Attack" if it didn't have the stupid meadow scene in it

The meadow scene is funny and I enjoy it more than I do any other scene from the prequels. I think I know all of the lines from it, being so memorably bad.

ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it gives us an insight into just how hard lucas would find it to chat to the opposite sex if he wasn't a bajillionaire.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

watching Star Wars on TV now, the 'name the system' line gave me a little lol.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 November 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

On ITV1? I stopped after there were two 5 minute breaks within the first half hour.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah. and then the 15-minute news break. I thought there were broadcast rules that you could only have a break every 45 minutes when showing films? I guess I'd mind more if I hadn't seen it a hundred thousand times already.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's probably signalled the end of my fanatical interest. It's taken a lot though: 1) on ITV1 and cut to pieces with long ad breaks, 2) stupid ITN news break, 3) Lucas's Greedo-shoots-first-Han-steps-on-Jabba's-tail-blah-di-blah cut, 4) shown after ITV1 has shown the three prequels (guess that answers a question upthread about when is some kid going to see them in I-VI order). But still I switched on the TV.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

you know though, chopped to bits and sprinkled with Lucas's meddling it may be, but the final attack on the Death Star still rocks the fuckin' bells like nothing else in the whole series.

Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Jedi has the best space battle. The asteroid chase in Empire is pretty fucking intense too.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, Jedi's insane screen-filling battle is A+. Admiral Ackbar! Hoth attack in Empire also stupendous.

Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

they changed the advert timing rules about a year ago iirc

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Empire is on next week.
Rebel: "Commander, Echo Base is under attack by..." <CUT-TO-AD-BREAK> Katie Price covered in cockroaches
(OK so it's not that bad, yet...)

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

totally derails the thread, but this is (a small part of) why when UK people piss and moan about the BBC licence fee I totally disagree. No adverts in films, yo.

Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

that and the bbc is fucking awesome on so many other levels.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

£142.50 is a bargain, even if all it meant was not being spammed every ten minutes with commercials that assume I'm a moron.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I had some fella trying to flog me sky HD for £50 a month yesterday, which puts things in perspective I'd say. Again, it's not really a crime of George Lucas, but I *bet* he is pals with Murdoch. Or at least likes him, they certainly share a marketing ethos.

Bill A, Saturday, 21 November 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-5AMapzFWg

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 21 November 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

there are no crimes being committed in that video, unless awesomeness is a crime

fel (latebloomer), Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Rebel: "Commander, Echo Base is under attack by..." <CUT-TO-AD-BREAK> Katie Price covered in cockroaches

I think if I had to come up with the one thing that most confuses me about the UK, it would be Katie Price.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

is THX 1138 his best movie...?

Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I watched it the other night for the first time in what must be 20 years and its pretty good but kinda empty. struck mainly by two things:

1) even THIS film he had to fuck with. the digitally added stuff is so jarring and glaringly out-of-place. not to mention totally unnecessary. this guy is the most insecure filmmaker of all time.
2) what works about this is rather blatantly cribbed from its primary sources - We, 1984, etc. Lucas' major contribution to the genre is almost entirely in terms of design/style. The minimalism, both of the narrative and of the overall look and feel, is great. Of course by the end he doesn't know what to do and just turns it into a stupid chase scene with a completely anticlimactic ending.

Owa Tana Siam (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 December 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

is THX 1138 his best movie...?

Nah.... American Graffiti and Star Wars are better imho

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Friday, 4 December 2009 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link

It'd be kinda cool if Lucas went back and digitally added nudity to American Graffiti.

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Most active thred gets this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDB8Q15iUIE

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Rats. Wish Lynch had said yes

lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

what jabba would have done to poor leia in a lynchian ROTJ doesn't bear thinking about

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

a completely anticlimactic ending.

love the ending! final shot is superb

also wish he did not digitally fuck w/ it

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 10 December 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

what jabba would have done to poor leia in a lynchian ROTJ doesn't bear thinking about

*shudder*

the Ewoks were the beginning of the end for moi

lukevalentine, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

he showed me many animals and things
then he took me for a ride in his ferrari
for a lunch

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I love how it's totally "I knew George Lewcas -- he was the man who made the star war."

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i admire george lucas very much, my lawyer tells me he does wonderful things with bears

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Ewoks included, ROTJ is still better than Dune.

Stereo no aware (Daruton), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

what jabba would have done to poor leia in a lynchian ROTJ doesn't bear thinking about

total "too much time on ILX" moment here

an terror has occurred (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

;)

jabba hands, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"don't you fucking wookie at me!"

unified theory of objectionable thoughts (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Ewoks included, ROTJ is still better than Dune.

ROTJ is a serious movie with humour coming naturally out of the situations, and unfortunately with the Ewok cuteness tacked on. I got the feeling that Dune is a sci-fi panto more or less deliberately played for LOLs - ie, Sting coming out of a sauna wearing a Harkonnen crest as a codpiece, BvH's death, etc..

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

dune is a much, much prettier movie to look at tho

krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

rotj is kinda fugly in some spots

krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

important in an f/x heavy sci-fi epic ya know!

krampus activities (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

dune is 10000 times better to watch stoned

max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

better soundtrack too

max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

did people get offended by the ewoks when they were kids watching ROTJ?

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link


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