Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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That's why Enterprise seems to have much more odd and dangerous missions than any other Federation ship... They've hand-picked a ship full of maladjusted permanent bachelor(ette)s they can send to on deadly missions, knowing no one will miss them back home.

This would make Star Trek a far, far more interesting series.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Big Brother In Space

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, they're always talking about all the families onboard the enterprise, it's not like nobody who works on the ship is married!!

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Chief Miles had wifey and a kid. Or did they just appear when he went to DS9?

smashing aspirant (milo z), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, they're always talking about all the families onboard the enterprise, it's not like nobody who works on the ship is married!!

this is more of a TNG thing, I don't think this is ever mentioned in the OS

Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It SO is mentioned in the original series.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Kirk talks about the CREW a lot, but families...? We never see any children

Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

nah the chief married that asian chick on tng

hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

> Troi and Worf had a relationship, but they only got married in an alternate timeline.

Worf marries J Dax in DS9. then she dies and he has a thing with Ezri Dax.

O'Brien is also married (keiko?) in DS9. (Xpost?)

koogs, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

this is more of a TNG thing, I don't think this is ever mentioned in the OS

― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:40 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok then TNG!

Alf, Lord Melmacsyn (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha, this is one of the things that I always get a laugh out of with TNG. They're soooooo pleased with themselves that they cart their families around in their big expensive parenting lab, unlike the savage races that break up families for space travel.... BUT they're perfectly willing to put their families in the most RIDICULOUS danger imaginable every week. Implosion, warp core failure, time travel, saucer separation, various battles, etc.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

O'Brien and Kieko have a baby while they're still on the Enterprise in TNG. Kieko gives birth during the episode where the ship gets hit by a quantum filament (or whatever the heck it is), and Worf is the midwife.

so says surgeon snoball (snoball), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I love late-period Worf.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Ezri Dax was fiiiiiiiine.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Meantime:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/buzz-log-r2-d2-star-trek.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Edward Gorey's Star Trek

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome

kingfish, Monday, 30 November 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Ryan North is clearly not a great draftsman but his "Season One" Riker is spot on

http://1.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kts5bidlxP1qzfxk0o1_400.jpg

George Mucus (ledge), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes – that jaw. What a great drawing.

mascara and ties (Abbott), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Uhura's the only lonely one iirc

But what about this classic moment:

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/nakedtime/sulu_uhrua.jpg

Swashbuckling Sulu: I'll protect you, fair maiden!
Uhuru: Sorry...neither!

Best line ever!

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

What if Star Trek was an ITC production in the mid-70s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRGqT31WZg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414TmP12WAU

poster x (ledge), Monday, 21 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Turns out the story about Star Trek showing the first kiss between a black and white actor on American television isn't true after all... Nancy Sinatra had already kissed Sammy Davis Jr. on TV in 1967, a year before "Plato's Stepchildren" aired:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movin%27_With_Nancy

Tuomas, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think Sammy-Nancy was a "hot" kiss

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 December 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://twitter.com/TheRealNimoy/status/12536477742

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Crazy Nimoy! Zoe Saldana didn't exist even on a cellular level back then.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

1973 star trek convention:

http://www.youtube.com/user/beyondspock

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 5 March 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

And then of course:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20061024-71.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 May 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

i can't even believe this question was ever asked. anyone who doesn't like Star Trek, even in a secret way, can fuck off and die.

it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i remember having the trek/wars argument when i was in school and saying star wars. i was so fucking wrong. wrath of khan and search for spock alone > star wars.

Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

absolutely.

it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

star wars has become such a joyless industry to me

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

well so did ST there until the reboot.

akm, Monday, 9 May 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

Enterprise had its moments, i thought.

it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but I could just ignore things like Enterprise (space Bush!) - the OST DVDs were not replaced/scarred with CGI additions, etc.

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

right. TNG is still my fave, but that's because i grew up with it.

it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

Star Trek just seems like so much more of a flexible and accomodating sort of universe to explore and work with - Star Wars has become so claustrophobic/autistic, always treading over the same water, endlessly filling in and fiddling with details of a single, heavily revered story arc, the self-referentialism is suffocating.

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

true. i can't imagine star wars ever getting rebooted with Simon Pegg as Han Solo. Although I would prefer that to the prequel movies.

akm, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

the OST DVDs were not replaced/scarred with CGI additions, etc

Actually, didn't they do exactly this? I remember Paramount came out with new CGI for the old episodes a couple years ago. Maybe the DVDs have both versions?

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 9 May 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, I've seen the eps with added CGI late night on tv a few times. from what I've seen, it was done fairly tastefully.

the blu-ray discs allow you to pick either version.

original bgm, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

dig this shot:

http://www.marcwade.com/startrek/remastered/tos-050/planetscape/Ep50_planetscape.jpg

of course, the crummy effects are half the fun, so I opt for my old dvds if I have the option.

original bgm, Monday, 9 May 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

i can't even believe this question was ever asked. anyone who doesn't like Star Trek, even in a secret way, can fuck off and die.

― it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2011 20:20 (2 hours ago)

^

zingstreet (latebloomer), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

my point was you can still get the actual aired versions of the OST episodes - they are readily available.

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

we didn't talk about the recent *amazing* film much on here. was there a seperate thread devoted to it?

piscesx, Monday, 9 May 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

aha Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

God that movie was great.

piscesx, Monday, 9 May 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

it was good. in order to be great it would have needed a better villain.

no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 May 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

it was better than it had any reason to be. as in, it was like the third or fourth best star trek movie and there are like,, 200 of them.

akm, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link


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