unless you're telling me those last two episodes are super stellar or story-resolving
dude
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - of course, and there are plenty of cliches that come from the mouths of the characters in the Wire - that particular scene seemed a little incongruous stylistically though.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not so much d's delivery of it, but rather that the other two otherwise street smart guys take it hook line and sinker and pretend it's some great apercu
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel like the writing got better in later seasons, and they started working with the medium more - in terms of editing and structure - to make points/commentary. I want to say, starting around season 3, the show did a lot more parallel construction showing the similarities between the hierarchies and systems of the different groups it was following.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
It definitely gets more impressive as it accrues narrative mass. The beauty of later seasons is the precision with which all the intricacies fit together. The first season is basically a superior police thriller.
― I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
while we're pointing out flaws can I mention the utter lol that is przyblewski the fuckup making a great insight that his smarter, more competent companions couldn't see
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, 16 November 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
this is foreshadowing.
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Prez... The kid's a prodigy.
― EDB, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
lol hoos u crazy. last two eps of season 5 are way better than the rest of it, btw.
― horseshoe, Monday, 16 November 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
There's one scene where Carcetti's reaction is hilarious - and should be (if it isn't already) an animated gif
― sarahel, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, November 16, 2009 9:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
um thats not a 'flaw' thats called a 'character'
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/user/hh1edits#p/u/0/-Sgj78QG9Bg
― cutty, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
theyre not stellar but theyre funny and heartbreaking and resolve lots of storys. its like youve gotten to page 480 of a 500-page book and are like... oh well why bother
― max, Monday, November 16, 2009 10:02 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
I have done this many times
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm also stalled halfway through season 3, not sure if these are related phenomena
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link
― cutty, Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
did i miss it or did they skip "pinstripe lawyerly affectations"
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that is absurd
― cutty, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
perhaps edward iii should pitch a slate article about this
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
did he have hands? did he have a face? yes? then it wasnt us
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair that's some pretty profound shit to hear if you're a 16 year old drug dealer
I know that conversation was yesterday, but I find myself very much on Tracer's side about this: what's an embarrassing metaphor to ilxors is not necessarily embarrassing to all, including not only 16-year-old drug dealers but also corporate managers, readers of motivational texts, churchgoers, and really basically 90% of America
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
that said, as a viewer it's not exactly like some deep stuff, true
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link
My issue with it was that it was incredibly close to the content of a scene from the movie Fresh.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah and Fresh >>>>> The Wire
sorry guys but its true
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
*folds arms*
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Shakey went too far.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
fresh is better than the wire vs traffic is as good as the wire
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha i am so glad wire threads will never die so i can never stop getting disproportionately pissed off by stuff people say about it.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^
― harbl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
that's one of my favorite lines.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― 囧 (dyao), Monday, November 16, 2009 7:17 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark
Wallace and Bodie weren't particularly street-smart (by wire standards at least) at this point of the show
― whiney on the moon (hmmmm), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
and they're more like 14 than 16, no?
― zing touch me I'm (sic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link
bodie was, wallace wasn't
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously think for one second about all the shit that blew your mind when you were 16
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, November 16, 2009 6:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yep. "tweedy impertinence," too. no Jay quotes, no cred.
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah these are some preachy ass 100 quotes
― Danny Duberstein (hmmmm), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the wire 4ever but fuck if i hear another quote about 'the game'
― mark cl, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Not reading this, as am only near the end of season 2, but is Omar the best character on TV ever?
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed.
― windy = white, carl = black (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Omar's role in the series always seemed kinda obvious and irritating to me - he's the one guy that's unbeholden to any of the institutions that trip up everyone else, and he has this moral code that he lives by, he only robs/kills criminals, he loves his momma, etc. And as an extra bone to all us open-minded liberals out there, he's GAY! Its all just so ridiculously idealized. This from a show that otherwise prided itself on its realism...
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway my favorite character was Prop Joe.
I see what you're saying, and yet he's just so much damn fun to watch.
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xpostHis performance makes it easy to forgive all that, for me anyway.
― Brio, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Omar is fun. he allows the viewer some rare moments of satisfaction re: people getting what they deserve, etc.
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp shakey - i don't think he feels much for his momma, he was raised by his grandmother.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
shakey omar is based on a real person
― GANGSTA KILLER (deej), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
realism is not very fun. the wire is fun. the wire is not realistic. it takes place in a realistic environment. i know people clown the whole "dickensian" bit and maybe the show clowns itself w/r/t it, but it's not far off the mark.
― jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lolz "based on a true story!"
what are you, 12 years old
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
this doesn't mean Shakey has to "believe" in Omar, though
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
dickens had realistic environments with characters who were just a tad unrealistic and OTT. not sure why this is a negative about the wire, if anything it's a positive.
hmm I had never made the Dickens connection before but that is a really good point of comparison, def a lot of parallels
― Valid point, imaginary rude person (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"he's the one guy that's unbeholden to any of the institutions that trip up everyone else"Did you see the ending? That he actually is beholden is his undoing. Also, he has Spider-man powers.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link