pro evolution soccer 5

I picked this (PS2) game up a few weeks ago for a fiver. I've never played any Pro Evolution games before, and I'm finding it very difficult. I scored my first goal yesterday, after realising that you can't just hammer balls at the goal at hope for the best, as was the case with the last football game I played which was probably FIFA 95 on the Megadrive. But the main difficulty I'm finding with the game is actually getting the ball off the other team. The possession in my last game was something like 58%-42% in the other team's favour. The just pass the ball between themselves, my players actually seem to be running away from the ball. Pretty much every sliding tackle results in a foul.

So basically my problem is this: how do I intercept passed balls, and if one of my players is next to an opposing player with the ball, how do I get it off him?

Any other advice is gratefully received!

This thread died off pretty quick after the game actually came out. Did everybody just decide 4 was actually better, or what happened?

probably better than 4 in retrospect, didn't like it as much at the time

haha, just read my old posts, OK seems I did like it at the time; I don't remember liking it as much

Cozwn - I also remember you posting this less than a year ago...

my all-time top 10:

1. PES2 (PS1)
2. PES4 (PS2)
3. SWOS
4. PES5

I've been playing both 4 & 5 back to back this weekend (on PC) and feel like they both hold up quite well. 5 does seems a little slicker and the commentary seems a little more varied, but I think you can still play 4 online, while 5 has no more online as it depended on Konami servers(?). The quality of graphics on both is quite nice and the gameplay feels well balanced - though I'm no expert. Sometimes I think we discard these older games far too fast.

I'd definitely revise that list to take out PES5 and replace it w/FIFA 09. it's in no particular order, either. FIFA10 looks already (from the demo) to be a ton better than 09 so you could probably already confidently just slot that in there in its stead.

watching some videos of PES2 (PS1) on youtube, I forgot how comical the sound effects were; it's incredible how much smoother looking the gameplay is compared to the current PES build:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAppC0H8BBc
we used to play loads of this game even long after PES had moved onto 4 and 5

can i get a decent new football game on PS2, does anybody know?

PES2009 is probably alright isn't it? wdn't touch FIFA on PS2 w/yours

I mean, PES2010 (assuming it's being released on PS2)

PES 2009 I have, and I have grave concerns about paying money for a sequel, assuming they will use the same game design, or indeed employees.

buy an xbox, they are 2 pence these days

dearly beloved xbox ;_;

hate the xbox controller. feel that 28 is too old to be buying a new console for myself. no broadband.

buy a ps3 then u ninny and then you can also easily justify it to your 28 yo self/sig other as a 'media hub'/blu ray machine not a 'console' . blu rays are sold in tesco now. plus u don't need broadband u maddie but why don't u have broadband anyway? are you posting from 2001?

chastised, tbh

Man, the guys playing that are too awful to watch. That's ISS Pro 98, not a PES game, rite?

ps regarding blu-ray i have a black & white tv.

it's iss pro evolution 2 I thought but it might be iss pro 1? iss pro 98 had better graphics and wasn't as good iirc

tbf I get confused w/the lineage and the differences betw/iss pro, pes, winning eleven so I just refer to them all as pes

darragh get a £80 (€80 ;_;) wii from cash convertors and PES2010 on tht maybe?

oh, i have a wii!

might be worth a try, that. apparently, the wii doesn't count as stupid boy nonsense- <3 nintendo marketing dept.

I put so many hours into that game. Forgot how annoying the running noise was.

lol forgot about "that was a studs up tackle if ever I saw one!"

"That boy's got a steel skull!"

did you ever play FIFA09 onimo (and are you going to get FIFA10)?

Didn't get FIFA 09. I think the last football game I bought was PES 2008. Definitely getting FIFA 10.

that video confused me a bit, not sure if i ever played that version. i will say though that ISS Pro Evolution on PS1 might be the best game of all time

I get that one mixed up with the ISS Pro that came before the "Evolution" tag. Anyway, one of them is responsible for an OMG That Is Just Beautiful moment of through ball revelation (or evolution...).

yeah you mean like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpZXVD5Wbk&feature=related

treated myself to a copy of ISS pro evolution today... still great. the through balls are beautiful and game is still very smooth

no super cancel tho, and no knocking the ball far in front of you

have you got 2010 then jim? how is it?

played 2010 on the PS3 over the weekend, and it's certainly much closer to the older games than 2009 on the PS2. heartened.

this game is an absolute masterpiece

I was playing ISS pro evolution (ps1) and thinking tht konami kinda hobbled themselves by getting it so perfect right out the gate. thought maybe they shd just re-skin tht game w/modern textures, animations and a database update plus add in the simpler refinements tht later iterations added in. but then I switched to PES5 and altho ISS pro still plays a great game of football it's nowhere near as fluid and deep as that offered by PES5. just the many ways you can take the ball in this sets it head and shoulders above everything thts come since and before. why they removed so much of the intricacies of its first touch system from later iterations iunno

I'm sure I posted this elsewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3WO792Mpu0&fmt=18

apparently PES2010 wii is amazing?

like the last two were amazing?
http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2010-wii-review/

not saying they werent but apparently this year's is the apotheosis

just wait till next year! But seriously, I haven't tried 2010 on Wii, but have never been able to get into the pointer controls as much as I thought I would. On the Wii, it's an interesting concept, but I just feel like there's TOO MUCH to control. I honestly think it's a lot more fun just to play with standard joystick controls. Passing is better with the pointer, but everything else is over complicated. The learning curve will break your heart.

I love PES on Wii, but haven't played 201o. 2009 is so good that I haven't bothered with the new one yet - I just haven't seen anything that tells me there is enough of an improvement in 9 months to justify a purchase. I'm not spending $50 for slightly better set pieces.

There is definitely a learning curve but I love controlling my whole team, not just one guy at a time. It's really hard to switch back and hope your AI teammates are in the place you want them as opposed to making them run to receive the perfect cross.

have you got 6, cozen? Been playing it again on live.

I've got it but it's shite?

yeah 5 or before tbh

i might buy 5. I got into football games really late (well I played them when i was a wee guy until International Superstar Soccer Deluxe and then didn't get back into them properly until 6) and 6 is so much better than all the iterations that have followed so my mind tells me it's good.