Metal Box -- does anyone hate this as much as me?

punk= impressionism
post-punk = post impressionism.

would you complain that Van Gogh could'nt paint?
because compared to social realist or other 19th C skools the guy has got NO CHOPS.

impressionism burst that bubble. like punk.

if Lydon doesn't convince you to buy into the misanthropic mood then, sure, you can consider him a crap singer.

Me? He sold me. Post-punk expressionism, he is the Van Gogh of vocalists maaaan.

btw: how would "real good singers" have coped with the themes of metal box? How owuld say, Ella, have interpereted all that claustrophic, dub influenced, post-punk, anti-corpotate after pistols angst? sweetly? or with a five-note off key whine?

'Albatross' is abt Mclaren for instance but I haven't looked up the lyrics in a while or heard it. maybe tonight.

sean: the metal box CD (with the metal case, which is what i have) doesn't have an info booklet but mine came with a small piece of paper with the track listing and who's in it (though it doesn't say what they do).

I'll give you the tracklisting and who's in it.

heh...thanks to marcello again. was looking at 'Church of Me' and he did a write up on metal Box. go there.

I listened to some of the tracks again. Lydon's vocal on 'Chant' is prob my favourite. an example to every up and coming singer.

Look Dan, if you want great singing go to Lydon, albert ayler and Kurt schiwitters OK.

look at the entry for jan 8th

OTM, except for the condescending tone.

i like that my can has completely rusted!!

levene's name is also spelt as 'leven'.

also i always thought the albatross they were getting rid of was the notion of lydon as pop star/spokesman/punk prophet/working class hero (nad that was why Wobble sang it)

ah!

Not sure I'd shell out 40 bucks for that 3LP reissue, but does the CD Metal Box reissue (in the metal case) sound way better that the Second Edition CD? If so, I might go for that.

Other: I thought Pash hated this, now I find he love(d) it. I'm confused.

More other: During an interview at the time, John mentioned that there were loads of tracks dropped, and a bunch of 'between track' snippety bits also unused. Hey, I'd like the long version. This being the first album I bought with wages.

(Thankyou, but I think it's supposed to be Wobble's voice on Albatross or something)

also i always thought the albatross they were getting rid of was the notion of lydon as pop star/spokesman/punk prophet/working class hero (nad that was why Wobble sang it)

actually for a while I thought Lydon sang on 'albatross' but in fact its Wobble's vocals (he does a good impression of Lydon, of course). Lydon comes in at the end of albatross with the 'Only the Lonely' bit.

Not true then, mark?

1) The first time I even heared that rumour
2) It's so John singing, it's silly.

I can't find a source for this rumor either, on Google at least. Ben? Julio? Gaz?

I read what I posted above, and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, in retrospect. I think I think the album itself is ok, if somewhat lacking compared w/the 1st, but it's a terrible terrible "influence" record?

I'd buy another copy to listen to, but I can't get motivated, TBH.

More other: Jim Walker mentioned in an interview that there's also addtional material for First Edition. He talks about a track called. "You Stupid Person" that supposedly was to be the second single. According to him it has "one of Levene's most blistering guitar lines." In Walker's opinion many of the discarded tracks like "You Stupid Person" are much better than what was included on the first album. If these exist I want to hear them too.