eating where ever u want is everyones right as an american
― mr. cool (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Subway: Gets you more places.Metro: Makes a cooler sound.
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
metro`s kinda beautiful
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
like a mausoleum almost...
― mr. cool (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, it has those awesome inside-of-a-whale stations
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Subway aesthetic is also kinda played out imho
subway is the gr8est
― max, Friday, 17 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I do love the metro, esp the escalator at Dpont Circle and how on a sunny day it's basically symbolically departing the womb for your new life/greener pastures (ie a place where you can smoke). I like a little rebirth in my daily life.
― Vampire romances depend on me (Laurel), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
subway doesnt make u swipe on the way out
i still sometimes reflexively take out my metrocard on the way out ;__;
― gabbneb, Friday, 17 October 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't actually understand, like, at all, the whole "nyc is more expensive for what you get" argument. mainly because it is not actually significantly more expensive than the other cities we are talking about, imo.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 17 October 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
our hot dog stands still sell actual hot dogs instead of whatever the hell is up there on the streets in wherever you live, person I am berating
^otm
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 17 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
if there are nathan's hot dogs in the grocery store, i couldnt care less what is being sold on the streets
― ○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 October 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Manhattan might be more expensive for what you get than those other cities, but not New York as a whole.
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
depends rather heavily on where in manhattan you are living.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 17 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
That's true: gabbneb, Casuistry, JBR...
I forgot Alex in NYC.
― jaymc, Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, but it depends rather heavily where in ANY city you are living, and on the whole Manhattan is more expensive. I mean I'm pretty sure New York is still the overall highest rent city in the country.
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link
who are the native chicago people on ilx (born & raised w/in city limits)?
― velko, Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link
it is not actually significantly more expensive than the other cities we are talking about, imo.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, October 17, 2008 12:54 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
^^^ if you have included chicago in your "other cities" then you are utterly, spectacularly wrong
― the valves of houston (gbx), Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Only ones I know for sure are Phil-Two and K3rry K3an3. I can never remember the deal with deej and Amateurist -- I know both went to high school in Evanston, but I think both lived within city limits at some point, too.
― jaymc, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link
("lived" = "grew up in," like pre-high school)
jaymc, do you know where i was born?this is not a test.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm just curious.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link
this would be word except my option in life has been apparently to return to this hellish robot womb every day, in order to perform my hellish robot duties, and then be exhumed into darkness so that I may recoup morale via those meager means my neighborhood makes available at such hours (read: playstation with doctor ben and lager)
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link
and btw frankly any white person who expects some kind of big props for being born in the city limits of a major metropolis can kind of lick it, congratulations, you tried to be black and you were *squishes head* THIS CLOSE!!
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i wish mpls had a soccerball team
http://pages.globetrotter.net/bb/pennants/nasl/MinnesotaKicks.jpg
I saw these guys play when I was a kid.
― Eazy, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link
playstation with doctor ben and lager
this btw is really an excellent way to relax and decompress, I just wish my favorite pizza joint would deliver after 11pm (the hours are an issue with DC I will not deny. however, just because it's always open doesn't mean it's good. You know who you are.*
*TOWNS WITH BIG MUSIC SCENES.
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i thought that meant papa john's.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link
sell outs man dont they know its all about thea rt art
― bart_stanberg, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:54 (fifteen years ago) link
;) ;)
ever since the late night fried chicken place closed down, late night dining just hasn't been the same here in pros. heights.
oh right, new york is so serious about their pizza you actually let papa johnses exist all over the place. Funk dat.
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I will never stop repping for DC as the best-kept pizza secret in all of this major metro area culture wars
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahahahaha goddamn i will eat shitty pizza anytime, but i'll only buy shitty pizza if it's all that's open.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link
the secret of pizza is that you make it yourself and it rulez and is mad cheap.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:05 (fifteen years ago) link
and you can put ANYTHING ON IT!K@&*(!&WS
I try that but really when you add it all up, even with tip, the 3-5 topping specials around here are regularly more economical than DIY. Should probably point out that I am too concerned with stuff like my cat and video games and internet bullshit to learn how to properly handle dough. There is a convenience factor, kind of like not owning a car.
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link
my cat likes it when i hang out in the kitchen. he likes to eat when there are people around. i have to encourage him sometimes, tell him to "show me what a good eater" he is. annnnyway.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link
my cat is a tubby guts and I had to put him on the catkins diet. I am really not looking forward to the next litter exchange.
― TOMBOT, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i make my pizzas with those boboli prefab crusts
― bart_stanberg, Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:16 (fifteen years ago) link
No. My knowledge of your early life begins here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/april2600-outside.jpg
― jaymc, Saturday, 18 October 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link
my experience of Dupont Circle is very much the same as Laurel's, though I think it helps to exit the South Escalator
i don't think, per tombot, that being born in the city limits of a major metro awards you great properties (tho growing up in one very well might), i just think it explains why you might find sardine-ism normal or even necessary, and that this might explain your taste for new york just as much as growing up in a less urban or developed place might explain your distaste for it. i also don't see what being born in the city limits of a major northeastern metro has to do with being black, outside of quasi-northern DC or Baltimore, or maybe Newark, where the black population is just over 50%. the black population of Manhattan is only about 30%, and the other boroughs aren't substantially higher.
also, there is good pizza in DC, which is somewhat underrated as a food town, but i doubt there are many more than 2x the good pizza places there are in New Haven, 1/10 its size, or that the average quality is marginally better than the pizza available in LaGuardia Airport, which has a branch of Todd English's Figs. and of course a slice is not available on every other corner like in you know where.
― gabbneb, Saturday, 18 October 2008 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
yea the deal with NYC isnt that it just has good pizza, its that its got good pizza every two blocks
― max, Saturday, 18 October 2008 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
gbx i never really consider the midwest because i couldn't live there (not s ome kind of cultural imperialism nonsense, i like to be near the ocean) -- sorry for the oversight!
gabbneb otm both on there being good food in dc, and that there is only about 2 good pizza options there. no offense to mr. "i like that upside down backwards pizza!" que, we've debated that one a couple times already.
also uh no one else gonna call out on the "you tried to be black" thing? jesus fucking christ.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok, but it depends rather heavily where in ANY city you are living, and on the whole Manhattan is more expensive.
dude, haven't you read the hand-wringing recently over apts in bk becoming more expensive than significant portions of manhattan? i'm being totally serious here, there has been newspaper drama over this factoid especially wrt the whole "what you get out of it" segment of the crowd, because what you get out of living on mckibbin in terms of amenities is significantly less than what you'd get in the east village for example. it's been a rather laughable drama, to me, because who the hell didn't see that coming once bk became hip and family-friendly to yuppies and college students? i read the articles for the lolz (this is generally the only reason to read the times, actually).
which of course it is like omg times way to ignore, like, bed-stuy in your analysis but it just goes to prove the point that queens and bk aren't really different from manhattan in this regard anymore.
nb sorry staten island and the bronx you still do not count
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link
jesus fucking christ indeed! I'm fighting a straw man here anyway since nobody's really saying anything like "I'm from queens I am realer than all you suburbanite transients"
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but dude this is like the second time in recent times that i've seen you fight a strawman in that kinda fashion and it's a little wtf!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
ie i don't think it was a good or accurate or very nice way of fighting the scarecrow.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:04 AM
got ya back here
― mookieproof, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
well if I was good or accurate or nice I wouldn't be so good at my job ha ha
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link
The only part of Queens that is more expensive than manhattan isn't worth living in. The rest is still greatly cheaper than Manhattan and most of Brooklyn too.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 18 October 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
any white person who expects some kind of big props for being born in the city limits of a major metropolis can kind of lick it, congratulations, you tried to be black and you were *squishes head* THIS CLOSE!!
― TOMBOT, Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:36 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark
I don't really see where any white person on this thread is claiming being born in a city as anything other than a fact about where they were born. I was born in Manhattan. I lived most of my pre-college life just inside the city limits of DC, where I went to public schools. My junior high was about 60% black and my high school was 90% black. None of this made me tough or black (though I get the feeling your conflating the two?), in fact I am a weakling and a coward.
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Saturday, 18 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link