Grand Theft Auto IV -- It might feature crime and prostitutes.

yeah the current style of "i'm just an easygoing guy trying to get by - oh hey mr crazy guy i've never met before, sure i'll blow up a boat full of arms dealers for you" is a little o_O

immigrants eh? tsk

some of the characterization in TBOGT are wacked. you deal with this Mori dude who's basically the same character as Brucie. except, he's Brucie's (older?) brother. and Brucie himself is totally pussified, but learns to deal with his bullying brother. except this story takes place at the same time as the main arc. it doesn't make any sense. this bugged this shit out of me tbh.

that was brucie?! shit. i was trying to cook sausages at the same time as that cutscene was playing tho.

my fave wish for GTAV: chicago, but taking place in -- get this -- two different times!! the old godfather trick. two difft versions of the same city, one in the 20s, one today, and you flip back and forth at difft times, one as your own grandfather, and decisions you make in the past can affect things in the present. fuckin awesome, huh.

xp yeah, no sense at all.

that is AMAZING idea!

Damn the L&D multiplayer modes look pretty good, maybe I should get that too.

The best one is chopper vs. chopper, but unfortunately no one ever seems to play it.

knees a trembling - getting 360 + all this tonight !!

You forgot the sum of that equation

lol the man at toys r us tried to convince me that the Stories of Liberty City on xbox360 was a direct port of the old PSP Liberty City Stories. I think my sister was shocked that i never punched him in the stomach.

Anyway, like these. not played too much LATD due to hating bikes in gta4 anyway but seems fun. Both of these have far more enjoyable missions already than most of gta4's original story.

some decent new vehicles in BOGT, especially like the Buffalo. Club management is slightly remedial I thought. But HA, Air Hockey!

will waffle on much more when not posting from work..

(also got CODwarfare2 and bionic commandos with my 360 bundle)

Man if someone had told me L&D was all about the bikes i'd have been on it like sonic.

And now they have. And now I can be.

yeah you get some kind of points for riding in proper formation and everything, if you like that sort of thing.

Not too into the Lost & the Damned missions. So far there has been nothing tricky, just follow me over here and shoot 40-60 guys and then drive away. One, it's easy. Two, it's boring. I'm still impressed riding around Liberty City though.

Self-Actualization is a trancey techno station

Autechre is not trance!!!!!!!!!!!

so... how is it, ste?

Gay Tony is pretty fun so far. Hated the opening cutscene though.

Battered this at the weekend, as you could imagine, played it for near 12 hours straight on Friday after work. That was a good day. Finished the main mission in Bogt, although still have all the base jumps and drug wars to do.

Enjoyed the final mission, but the mission before it was an utter fuck and almost made me quit. And then on the last mission, as I'd done all the hard work and was just making my way to the final marker, I managed to get myself run over and killed. AArgh.

Lots of new vehicles in this one, compared to Lost which didn't have many (although the tow truck is pretty funky looking). miffed that I can't drive the sky crane though.

I wish they'd have given us more night clubs to knock about in. Dancing is completely dumb though and I'm not even sure I'm doing it right. so I can move either of the thumb pads in any direction i want? what am i 'holding' when it flashes HOLD?

On the seagull hunt now, with twenty left to get. At least I can hear these now compared to the pigeons too quiet cooing.

Mission wise it's okay, it started off quite promising but ended up as being just more shoot every guy in the place type stuff.

Almost finished Lost now as well, on last mission. Missions pretty so so in that one. And I despise the main character's voice, pretty weak for a so called biker brother.

And on the story front, bogt, love it. The dialogue is well done and just love all the characters.

Lots of Vice city references i noticed, which might suggest something.

and ffs the animations are so sluggish sometimes, on the main player. GET IN THE FUCKING BOAT QUICKER!!

And I despise the main character's voice, pretty weak for a so called biker brother.

Huh, I liked him! But I also like Luis and Niko. Pretty cool dudes across the board.

i think it's because i've heard the voice before, in some cartoons. it ruined the illusion.

okay, how do i replay a mission i've successfully completed, in BOGT?

you have to finish the story first. and then... i don't know? it's off the phone maybe?

oh seriously? bummer

damn nobody plays these games multi do they. i suppose with MW2 nobody is playing anything multi...

oh i play multi every now and again - spent 20 minutes on it earlier and got 2nd place in a deathmatch, which blew my mind cos i'm pretty crappy at video games. my xbox360 name is stevietonychick

So is the PC version of this any good then? I just got a new pc.

pc version supposed to be very good.

stevie, yeah you got to finish the game first. and then choose missions in the phone.

enjoyed doing half the drug wars tonight, finished the base jumping stuff also fun.
i even got into dancing a bit more, winning some sort of gay dance off and then completing the bus stop. not used to the xbox controls so was a bit of a struggle at first remembering the colours.

also, i've noticed that no longer do i see the vibrant blue shadows when the sun is shining, that were in the ps3 version, but is this an xbox change or something unique to bogt?

Don't remember vibrant blue shadows. Dancing is a bit easy, thought it might be a fun sub game but I completed the bus stop first time. Where is air hockey?

air hockey tables in both the bowling alleys

yeah compared to the old san andreas dancing game its a bit stupidly easy, i thought it was going to get faster. although at least i did find myself bobbing to the beat.

and again, races (triathlons) pose no challenge whatsoever.

quite surprised that even after the kagillion amount of hours i put in on the original, that i'm still enjoying just cruising around liberty city in new cars for a whole evening. i guess i have nothing better to do.

eager to restart IV as i never did get the 'good' ending.

are there different endings for gtaiv?

There are two. They're pretty similar, honestly.

good things about TBOGT, the Buzzard and the APC, and the explosive round-shotgun. Lots of fun.

Something satisfying about the machine gun on the buzzard, and watching the debris splinter about from a good strafing session.

TBoGT is so many different kinds of wonderful.

The first couple missions of 'gay' were really good. Now I'm back to the same old shit-chase down this guy or shoot his crew. Snooze...

Will RStar ever create a new mold? I guess people will have to stop buying this shit over and over to force them to innovate again.

Is there a conclusive answer as to whether the download or the disc of Gay Tony is better? Aside from the fact that I'll feel like a sucker if I pay twice for TLAD.

Also, can I carry on my game saves from my downloaded TLAD on the disc one?

Is there a conclusive answer as to whether the download or the disc of Gay Tony is better?

I think the download is supposed to be better from what I've heard.

There you go (March 20th) ps3 owners...
http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/2010/01/29/2861/grand_theft_auto_episodes_from_liberty_city_coming_to_playstation_3_and_pc

oops, March 30th

huh, what was with all the microsoft trumpeting "these two dlc games will only ever be available on the 360" a year or two back. was it a short term contract? they sure seemed to make out that statement applied to FOREVER

i fucking knew it

Really? I just always assumed they'd be coming to PS3 and PC within a year or two at the most.

If anyone feels like pwning a n00b in a PS3 deathmatch, I am nothingelseon - in NZ tho so time zones may screw everything up

Having just completed The Lost & Damned's story missions, I'm taking another swing at the final mission of the main game, but it's frustrating as hell. Don't really enjoy having to kill off all The Bad Guy's hentchmen again to replay the final chase where I've been scuppered thus far - I think I've figured out where I was going wrong, but its such a drag to play all the way through to the fuck-up point that I'm remembering why I ditched this and moved on to the DLC missions without completing it.

Still stunned by the game overall, however, especially the DLC missions - the way the creators developed three storylines that differed so much in tone and subject within the same city/engine/game is impressive, though I have to admit, Johnny Klebitz and Luis Lopez were more compelling leads than Niko. Still though, while their tales were all a dash hackneyed to some extent, the storylines to all three games were strong and their worlds (and supporting cast) mostly entertaining and believable. Completing the DLC missions and then watching the full credits - especially, on Lost And Damned, when scored by 'Every Picture Tells A Story' - was as satisfying as any such moment in an action movie (and the music for these games were perfectly chosen, and light years beyond any other game I've played).

Also, I'm not a dude who often completes video games (and indeed have still not finished GTA:SA), so finishing all the story arcs (save one final Niko mission) gives a sense of accomplishment I don't often draw from my Xbox360.

I suck at this game. I played it again last night for the first time in, er, probably 20 months, and had the usual headache of a time. I enjoyed Bully a lot, so I'm not sure I can articulate why I find GTA4 so impossible to enjoy. I get motion sick when I play fast-ish first- or third-person shooters, especially with driving: that's a big factor. & I've never cultivated the eye for shooting that these games take. So I finally put the game up for sale today.

Playing this now. I like what they're doing with the characters but I still hold that San Andreas is the apex of the series.

have you played ballad of gay tony yet? i unreservedly love that iteration...