New York City is for sellouts

metro doesnt smell

subway doesnt make u swipe on the way out

subway costs $2 so you can watch a dude eat in front of you while another dude sleeps

alternatively sometimes it costs $2 so you can watch two guys breakdance on a moving train

eating where ever u want is everyones right as an american

Subway: Gets you more places.
Metro: Makes a cooler sound.

metro`s kinda beautiful

like a mausoleum almost...

Yeah, it has those awesome inside-of-a-whale stations

Subway aesthetic is also kinda played out imho

subway is the gr8est

I do love the metro, esp the escalator at Dpont Circle and how on a sunny day it's basically symbolically departing the womb for your new life/greener pastures (ie a place where you can smoke). I like a little rebirth in my daily life.

subway doesnt make u swipe on the way out

i still sometimes reflexively take out my metrocard on the way out ;__;

i don't actually understand, like, at all, the whole "nyc is more expensive for what you get" argument. mainly because it is not actually significantly more expensive than the other cities we are talking about, imo.

our hot dog stands still sell actual hot dogs instead of whatever the hell is up there on the streets in wherever you live, person I am berating

^otm

if there are nathan's hot dogs in the grocery store, i couldnt care less what is being sold on the streets

Manhattan might be more expensive for what you get than those other cities, but not New York as a whole.

depends rather heavily on where in manhattan you are living.

That's true: gabbneb, Casuistry, JBR...

I forgot Alex in NYC.

Ok, but it depends rather heavily where in ANY city you are living, and on the whole Manhattan is more expensive. I mean I'm pretty sure New York is still the overall highest rent city in the country.

who are the native chicago people on ilx (born & raised w/in city limits)?

it is not actually significantly more expensive than the other cities we are talking about, imo.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, October 17, 2008 12:54 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

^^^ if you have included chicago in your "other cities" then you are utterly, spectacularly wrong

who are the native chicago people on ilx (born & raised w/in city limits)?

Only ones I know for sure are Phil-Two and K3rry K3an3. I can never remember the deal with deej and Amateurist -- I know both went to high school in Evanston, but I think both lived within city limits at some point, too.

("lived" = "grew up in," like pre-high school)

jaymc, do you know where i was born?
this is not a test.

i'm just curious.

I do love the metro, esp the escalator at Dpont Circle and how on a sunny day it's basically symbolically departing the womb for your new life/greener pastures (ie a place where you can smoke). I like a little rebirth in my daily life.

this would be word except my option in life has been apparently to return to this hellish robot womb every day, in order to perform my hellish robot duties, and then be exhumed into darkness so that I may recoup morale via those meager means my neighborhood makes available at such hours (read: playstation with doctor ben and lager)

and btw frankly any white person who expects some kind of big props for being born in the city limits of a major metropolis can kind of lick it, congratulations, you tried to be black and you were *squishes head* THIS CLOSE!!

i wish mpls had a soccerball team

http://pages.globetrotter.net/bb/pennants/nasl/MinnesotaKicks.jpg

I saw these guys play when I was a kid.

playstation with doctor ben and lager

this btw is really an excellent way to relax and decompress, I just wish my favorite pizza joint would deliver after 11pm (the hours are an issue with DC I will not deny. however, just because it's always open doesn't mean it's good. You know who you are.*

*TOWNS WITH BIG MUSIC SCENES.

oh i thought that meant papa john's.

sell outs man dont they know its all about thea rt art

;) ;)

ever since the late night fried chicken place closed down, late night dining just hasn't been the same here in pros. heights.

oh right, new york is so serious about their pizza you actually let papa johnses exist all over the place. Funk dat.

I will never stop repping for DC as the best-kept pizza secret in all of this major metro area culture wars

hahahahahaha goddamn i will eat shitty pizza anytime, but i'll only buy shitty pizza if it's all that's open.

the secret of pizza is that you make it yourself and it rulez and is mad cheap.

and you can put ANYTHING ON IT!K@&*(!&WS

I try that but really when you add it all up, even with tip, the 3-5 topping specials around here are regularly more economical than DIY. Should probably point out that I am too concerned with stuff like my cat and video games and internet bullshit to learn how to properly handle dough. There is a convenience factor, kind of like not owning a car.

my cat likes it when i hang out in the kitchen. he likes to eat when there are people around. i have to encourage him sometimes, tell him to "show me what a good eater" he is. annnnyway.

my cat is a tubby guts and I had to put him on the catkins diet. I am really not looking forward to the next litter exchange.

i make my pizzas with those boboli prefab crusts

jaymc, do you know where i was born?
this is not a test.

No. My knowledge of your early life begins here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/april2600-outside.jpg

my experience of Dupont Circle is very much the same as Laurel's, though I think it helps to exit the South Escalator

i don't think, per tombot, that being born in the city limits of a major metro awards you great properties (tho growing up in one very well might), i just think it explains why you might find sardine-ism normal or even necessary, and that this might explain your taste for new york just as much as growing up in a less urban or developed place might explain your distaste for it. i also don't see what being born in the city limits of a major northeastern metro has to do with being black, outside of quasi-northern DC or Baltimore, or maybe Newark, where the black population is just over 50%. the black population of Manhattan is only about 30%, and the other boroughs aren't substantially higher.

also, there is good pizza in DC, which is somewhat underrated as a food town, but i doubt there are many more than 2x the good pizza places there are in New Haven, 1/10 its size, or that the average quality is marginally better than the pizza available in LaGuardia Airport, which has a branch of Todd English's Figs. and of course a slice is not available on every other corner like in you know where.

yea the deal with NYC isnt that it just has good pizza, its that its got good pizza every two blocks

gbx i never really consider the midwest because i couldn't live there (not s ome kind of cultural imperialism nonsense, i like to be near the ocean) -- sorry for the oversight!

gabbneb otm both on there being good food in dc, and that there is only about 2 good pizza options there. no offense to mr. "i like that upside down backwards pizza!" que, we've debated that one a couple times already.

also uh no one else gonna call out on the "you tried to be black" thing? jesus fucking christ.

Ok, but it depends rather heavily where in ANY city you are living, and on the whole Manhattan is more expensive.

dude, haven't you read the hand-wringing recently over apts in bk becoming more expensive than significant portions of manhattan? i'm being totally serious here, there has been newspaper drama over this factoid especially wrt the whole "what you get out of it" segment of the crowd, because what you get out of living on mckibbin in terms of amenities is significantly less than what you'd get in the east village for example. it's been a rather laughable drama, to me, because who the hell didn't see that coming once bk became hip and family-friendly to yuppies and college students? i read the articles for the lolz (this is generally the only reason to read the times, actually).

which of course it is like omg times way to ignore, like, bed-stuy in your analysis but it just goes to prove the point that queens and bk aren't really different from manhattan in this regard anymore.

nb sorry staten island and the bronx you still do not count

also uh no one else gonna call out on the "you tried to be black" thing? jesus fucking christ.

jesus fucking christ indeed! I'm fighting a straw man here anyway since nobody's really saying anything like "I'm from queens I am realer than all you suburbanite transients"

yeah but dude this is like the second time in recent times that i've seen you fight a strawman in that kinda fashion and it's a little wtf!

ie i don't think it was a good or accurate or very nice way of fighting the scarecrow.