New Apple Lust Objects

riiiiight. so the westminster correspondent for a newspaper shouldn't ever go near westminster, or talk to MPs?

the crime correspondent should never speak to the cops?

even traditional commentators and columnists -- good ones -- don't just sit there waiting for other people to gather the information; they're in there finding out information for themselves. as stet says, it's really simple: if arseholes like this want to be taken seriously as "journalists", they need to do some "journalism", not some "fannying about".

if they don't want to do that -- fine! nobody's making them. but in that case STFU about journalism etc.

― easy, lionel (grimly fiendish), Friday, October 17, 2008 11:50 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

since when does he call himself a journalist? gruber doesn't break stories, he does analysis/commentary. just because he criticizes other people's journalism doesn't mean that's the line he's in himself.

and i do think there is a different relationship between hard news reporters and people writing about consumer products. the PR game is very different and i can understand wanting to keep out of that. like it or not, if you're soliciting comment from apple, you're going to need to have a relationship with their PR department, and that can muddy things.

i don't think that transparency is particularly needed to review laptops.

just because he criticizes other people's journalism doesn't mean that's the line he's in himself.
He's criticising somebody for how he handled a leak on the new MacBooks, which he also did himself. It's not "commentary on journalism" it's "I did it better than yoooo". Also, Gruber has broken a fair few stories.

if you're soliciting comment from apple, you're going to need to have a relationship with their PR department, and that can muddy things.
You'd think that as he has a huge presence in the Mac media, but isn't dependent on review machines, on special access or Apple advertising the PR relationship would be all in his favour. He's practically unthreatenable.

i don't think that transparency is particularly needed to review laptops.
Yeh, because people reviewing expensive equipment should definitely be allowed to have relationships with manufacturers on the quiet.

I think taking down a random site like whatever-the-fuck this inquisitr one is when the mainstream media uses them for a tip is what Gruber is considering a public service. I mean, there were a handful of headlines about how disappointing it was that Apple didn't lower prices and their stock shorted a little bit every time one of those articles was published.

The thing is, I don't think anyone in the actual bullshit-gathering sphere cares about Gruber so he's preaching to the choir. He's discrediting those that shouldn't have had any credibility to begin with, but the thing is that most of these sites know it's a one-off gimmick to make up shit about upcoming Apple releases to get a bunch of traffic and pump up your site traffic. I don't know if any site consistently gets traffic for fabricated rumors, I think that there are actual sound bite "pundits" that make a living off that already.

He's criticising somebody for how he handled a leak on the new MacBooks, which he also did himself. It's not "commentary on journalism" it's "I did it better than yoooo". Also, Gruber has broken a fair few stories.

how is not a commentary on how the other site handled a story?

You'd think that as he has a huge presence in the Mac media, but isn't dependent on review machines, on special access or Apple advertising the PR relationship would be all in his favour. He's practically unthreatenable.

i don't understand your point here. i'm saying there's a chance he doesn't want to cozy up to apple because it might impinge on his integrity. i think that's a fair stance.

Yeh, because people reviewing expensive equipment should definitely be allowed to have relationships with manufacturers on the quiet.

aren't you criticizing him for NOT having a relationship with apple? my point is that apple is not accountable the same way a "westminster MP" or other valid subject of news coverage would be. they don't have a responsibility to give comment.

I went and looked at the new models - I think I can live with the glossy screen (and buy a better external monitor w/ proceeds from selling current MBP and Mac Pro, now that I can increase HD size as technology improves in the MBP).

But my first-gen Intel MBP did have a godawful high-pitched CPU whine at all times not under a heavy load, so I should probably listen to the "don't buy these 'til the next revision" folks.

aren't you criticizing him for NOT having a relationship with apple? my point is that apple is not accountable the same way a "westminster MP" or other valid subject of news coverage would be. they don't have a responsibility to give comment.

Yeh, but he has a responsibility to ask. Or actually, he doesn't, but he whaps on about journalistic ethics, implying strongly that he has them, so much that he *should* be asking. And since he's in such a strong position, he'd be more likely to get an actual answer than not.

I don't think there's any conceivable danger of his integrity being compromised by asking Apple for comment; at any rate a far lower danger than the one brought about by his sponsored ad blurbs.

still mh also otm

new MB's are really, really nice. PLayed with one earlier.

Really, I don't know that Gruber is a pundit as much as he's a professional curmudgeon.

I think the comment that the new MBP/old MBP comparison is like having a Toyota and moving to a Lexus. I think I can hold on to my current one for another 3/4 year though.

hi guys

-- posted from my iPhone 3g

Yeh, but he has a responsibility to ask. Or actually, he doesn't, but he whaps on about journalistic ethics, implying strongly that he has them, so much that he *should* be asking. And since he's in such a strong position, he'd be more likely to get an actual answer than not.

I don't think there's any conceivable danger of his integrity being compromised by asking Apple for comment; at any rate a far lower danger than the one brought about by his sponsored ad blurbs.

still mh also otm

new MB's are really, really nice. PLayed with one earlier.

― stet, Friday, October 17, 2008 8:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to ask what?? all he does is give his opinion on whatever apple is up to or whatever people are saying about it? what do you want him to ask?

For comment. eg he's perpetually bitching about the App Store and wondering aloud at the thinking behind app rejections, but hasn't once asked them "why was Podcaster rejected?"

I mean, that's standard blogger fare, so who cares? I only bring it up because he's so fucking hoity-toity with everybody else's blogging

I don't really read his blog, but does Gruber himself have a history of putting unsubstantiated rumors that turn out to be false?

no hardly ever

he doesn't break rumours.

Somewhere around here is where I point out that it's usually better to wait for the first minor revision of a new product.

― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom)

OTM, but based on my PowerBook's current state I don't think I'll be able to wait 'til revB to take the plunge...

OK I sort of relented. I noticed a MAJOR OFFICE CHAIN selling the now "out of date" models at a marked down price and I managed to convince them to throw in an extra meg of RAM too. So I did make the great crossover (so I don't have to replace THIS too soon hopefully unlike a PC laptop which would have become bloated as fuck in five minutes anyway) despite my annoyance. You can't win with anyone...but my new "old" MacBook sure is nice.

wow, an extra meg of ram. you must be a real power user.

zero halliburton cases: classic or douche

Haven't seen those before, seem overkillish. I'm in the market for a new mbp 15"-capable bag that I can shove a bunch of other shit in too. I've had a timbuk2 one but the laptop section hasn't been the right size for my current laptop for a long time since I got it four years ago...

Anyway, I checked out the incase messenger one and thought it wasn't as good as I expected. I could go superlame and check into crumpler or whatever, but what's good? I need a bag for laptop, a few books, or a shirt.

These looked quite good last time I looked

http://www.ospreypacks.com/images_products/118_253_xl.jpg

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/TN725_screen2.jpg

I got one of these sleeve things and put it in my rucksack.

i just have a sleeve and use it in whatever

I use a vintage airline hostess bag. Fits a 17" like a glove.

Dalzinho WHAT IS THAT I NEED IT

(my laptop gets banged up a lot)

mh get something from here:

http://www.spireusa.com

Spire bags are awesome. I used one of their smaller bags from 2001 to 2007, and it worked fabulously, Powerbook intact all those years (on airplanes, while biking, etc.). I also bought one of the bigger bags last year so that when I fly, I need no other luggage. It's also been great so far.

Lukas, it's one of these: http://tinyurl.com/6yzkd3, well worth it.

Dear Apple Community,

For the first time in a decade, I'm getting to spend the holiday season with my family, rather than intensely preparing for a Macworld keynote.

Unfortunately, my decision to have Phil deliver the Macworld keynote set off another flurry of rumors about my health, with some even publishing stories of me on my deathbed.

I've decided to share something very personal with the Apple community so that we can all relax and enjoy the show tomorrow.

As many of you know, I have been losing weight throughout 2008. The reason has been a mystery to me and my doctors. A few weeks ago, I decided that getting to the root cause of this and reversing it needed to become my #1 priority.

Fortunately, after further testing, my doctors think they have found the cause -- a hormone imbalance that has been "robbing" me of the proteins my body needs to be healthy. Sophisticated blood tests have confirmed this diagnosis.

The remedy for this nutritional problem is relatively simple and straightforward, and I've already begun treatment. But, just like I didn't lose this much weight and body mass in a week or a month, my doctors expect it will take me until late this Spring to regain it. I will continue as Apple's CEO during my recovery.

I have given more than my all to Apple for the past 11 years now. I will be the first one to step up and tell our Board of Directors if I can no longer continue to fulfill my duties as Apple's CEO. I hope the Apple community will support me in my recovery and know that I will always put what is best for Apple first.

So now I've said more than I wanted to say, and all that I am going to say, about this.

Steve

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/090105/aqm029.html?.v=69

"I have these hormones that keep replicating cells in clusters on my stomach..."

No updated iPhones today then.

is the keynote today?

Right now. So far, new iPhoto with face detection, GPS tagging, Facebook integration (will import tagged pix too) and Flickr support.

www.macrumorslive.com

cheers.

I've had an integrated Flickr plugin for months.

Not like I used it though

oh dear @ hacked live feed.

I've switched to http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/06/live-from-the-macworld-2009-keynote/

gid 4chan

Oooh! Mail Merge! Exciting!

That looks like proper Bibliography support in Pages. Bugger, I've just bought Sente.

And outlines, and full-screen. Basically everything I wanted in Pages, now. I just bought Nisus/Sente/Omnioutliner, tho.

if they're going to go the integrated battery the pro has to outweigh the con and has to approach 24hour battery life imo

iTunes Music Store for iPhone now works over 3G. This is going to be costly for me.

buying mp3s makes me depressed

most boring keynote in a while? so little fanfare I didn't even tune in

Yeh, pretty dull all around.

Don't think the integrated battery is going to matter. Ppl aint battery-swapping like they used to. And 8 hours off a charge is beasting for a MB.

8 hours??? I get about 20 minutes off my toshiba thingy

I can get six hrs+ off the MB Air w/SSD and no wifi, which is surreal. I keep checking the gauge to check it hasn't fallen back to Apple Standard 2hrs 10mins.

most boring keynote in a while? so little fanfare I didn't even tune in

Same here, but it just reflects the general irrelevance of end-user trade shows - especially Macworld. Bet you there will be some sort of "media event" in March/April.

Sources inside Apple say that Jobs is hiding the real reason for his treatments: He wants undergo radical hormone replacement in order to make a run to become California’s first female governor in 2010.

lololololol

Most shocking news was the Jobs story and no Mini or iMac refresh - though it might come soon, why would they bother holding off on it? Pretty underwhelming...