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I picked this (PS2) game up a few weeks ago for a fiver. I've never played any Pro Evolution games before, and I'm finding it very difficult. I scored my first goal yesterday, after realising that you can't just hammer balls at the goal at hope for the best, as was the case with the last football game I played which was probably FIFA 95 on the Megadrive. But the main difficulty I'm finding with the game is actually getting the ball off the other team. The possession in my last game was something like 58%-42% in the other team's favour. The just pass the ball between themselves, my players actually seem to be running away from the ball. Pretty much every sliding tackle results in a foul.
So basically my problem is this: how do I intercept passed balls, and if one of my players is next to an opposing player with the ball, how do I get it off him?
Any other advice is gratefully received!
― nate woolls, Friday, 27 July 2007 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread died off pretty quick after the game actually came out. Did everybody just decide 4 was actually better, or what happened?
― Jeff LeVine, Saturday, 26 September 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
probably better than 4 in retrospect, didn't like it as much at the time
― cozwn, Saturday, 26 September 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, just read my old posts, OK seems I did like it at the time; I don't remember liking it as much
― cozwn, Saturday, 26 September 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Cozwn - I also remember you posting this less than a year ago...
my all-time top 10:1. PES2 (PS1)2. PES4 (PS2)3. SWOS4. PES5
1. PES2 (PS1)2. PES4 (PS2)3. SWOS4. PES5
I've been playing both 4 & 5 back to back this weekend (on PC) and feel like they both hold up quite well. 5 does seems a little slicker and the commentary seems a little more varied, but I think you can still play 4 online, while 5 has no more online as it depended on Konami servers(?). The quality of graphics on both is quite nice and the gameplay feels well balanced - though I'm no expert. Sometimes I think we discard these older games far too fast.
― Jeff LeVine, Sunday, 27 September 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd definitely revise that list to take out PES5 and replace it w/FIFA 09. it's in no particular order, either. FIFA10 looks already (from the demo) to be a ton better than 09 so you could probably already confidently just slot that in there in its stead.
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
watching some videos of PES2 (PS1) on youtube, I forgot how comical the sound effects were; it's incredible how much smoother looking the gameplay is compared to the current PES build:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAppC0H8BBcwe used to play loads of this game even long after PES had moved onto 4 and 5
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
can i get a decent new football game on PS2, does anybody know?
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
PES2009 is probably alright isn't it? wdn't touch FIFA on PS2 w/yours
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, PES2010 (assuming it's being released on PS2)
PES 2009 I have, and I have grave concerns about paying money for a sequel, assuming they will use the same game design, or indeed employees.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
buy an xbox, they are 2 pence these days
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
dearly beloved xbox ;_;
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
hate the xbox controller. feel that 28 is too old to be buying a new console for myself. no broadband.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
buy a ps3 then u ninny and then you can also easily justify it to your 28 yo self/sig other as a 'media hub'/blu ray machine not a 'console' . blu rays are sold in tesco now. plus u don't need broadband u maddie but why don't u have broadband anyway? are you posting from 2001?
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
chastised, tbh
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Man, the guys playing that are too awful to watch. That's ISS Pro 98, not a PES game, rite?
― MPx4A, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
ps regarding blu-ray i have a black & white tv.
it's iss pro evolution 2 I thought but it might be iss pro 1? iss pro 98 had better graphics and wasn't as good iirc
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf I get confused w/the lineage and the differences betw/iss pro, pes, winning eleven so I just refer to them all as pes
darragh get a £80 (€80 ;_;) wii from cash convertors and PES2010 on tht maybe?
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, i have a wii!
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
might be worth a try, that. apparently, the wii doesn't count as stupid boy nonsense- <3 nintendo marketing dept.
― What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I put so many hours into that game. Forgot how annoying the running noise was.
lol forgot about "that was a studs up tackle if ever I saw one!"
"That boy's got a steel skull!"
― Did Atkins Die Yet (onimo), Monday, 28 September 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
did you ever play FIFA09 onimo (and are you going to get FIFA10)?
― cozwn, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't get FIFA 09. I think the last football game I bought was PES 2008. Definitely getting FIFA 10.
― Did Atkins Die Yet (onimo), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
that video confused me a bit, not sure if i ever played that version. i will say though that ISS Pro Evolution on PS1 might be the best game of all time
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 28 September 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I get that one mixed up with the ISS Pro that came before the "Evolution" tag. Anyway, one of them is responsible for an OMG That Is Just Beautiful moment of through ball revelation (or evolution...).
― Did Atkins Die Yet (onimo), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah you mean like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcpZXVD5Wbk&feature=related
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
treated myself to a copy of ISS pro evolution today... still great. the through balls are beautiful and game is still very smooth
no super cancel tho, and no knocking the ball far in front of you
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Monday, 7 December 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
have you got 2010 then jim? how is it?
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Monday, 7 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
played 2010 on the PS3 over the weekend, and it's certainly much closer to the older games than 2009 on the PS2. heartened.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link
this game is an absolute masterpiece
I was playing ISS pro evolution (ps1) and thinking tht konami kinda hobbled themselves by getting it so perfect right out the gate. thought maybe they shd just re-skin tht game w/modern textures, animations and a database update plus add in the simpler refinements tht later iterations added in. but then I switched to PES5 and altho ISS pro still plays a great game of football it's nowhere near as fluid and deep as that offered by PES5. just the many ways you can take the ball in this sets it head and shoulders above everything thts come since and before. why they removed so much of the intricacies of its first touch system from later iterations iunno
― conezy (cozwn), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm sure I posted this elsewherehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3WO792Mpu0&fmt=18
― conezy (cozwn), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently PES2010 wii is amazing?
― conezy (cozwn), Friday, 11 December 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
like the last two were amazing?http://winningelevenblog.com/blog/pes-2010-wii-review/
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
not saying they werent but apparently this year's is the apotheosis
― conezy (cozwn), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
just wait till next year! But seriously, I haven't tried 2010 on Wii, but have never been able to get into the pointer controls as much as I thought I would. On the Wii, it's an interesting concept, but I just feel like there's TOO MUCH to control. I honestly think it's a lot more fun just to play with standard joystick controls. Passing is better with the pointer, but everything else is over complicated. The learning curve will break your heart.
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 11 December 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I love PES on Wii, but haven't played 201o. 2009 is so good that I haven't bothered with the new one yet - I just haven't seen anything that tells me there is enough of an improvement in 9 months to justify a purchase. I'm not spending $50 for slightly better set pieces.
There is definitely a learning curve but I love controlling my whole team, not just one guy at a time. It's really hard to switch back and hope your AI teammates are in the place you want them as opposed to making them run to receive the perfect cross.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
have you got 6, cozen? Been playing it again on live.
― Isambard Kingdom Buñuel (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I've got it but it's shite?
― I think ur a probotector (cozen), Thursday, 21 January 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link