OTTO PREMINGER, S / D

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and Andrews didn't want to do DK.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 March 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe Crawford's most human performance? I dunno -- she seemed looser and, god, more IRONIC?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Joan was going thru menopause during the shoot; the temperature on the set was kept at 50 degrees F.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I watched the "featurette." Your boy Hirsch does the commentary and hosts the featurette.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Also: is this the only instance in film of a feeble father-in-law?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

the bio was returned today, I read about half.

yeah, the dad-in-law reallty rolled over for Dana. The child-abuse thing is kind of amazing.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 March 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

a still newer bio, by Chris Fujiwara:

http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid61433.aspx

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I saw that in the bookstore a month or two ago and meant to post about it.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Watching Bunny Lake is Missing tonight. Any thoughts?

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I seriously hope the audiences of 1944 realized that Vincent Price and Clifton Webb are playing insolent fags.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Of course. But you need EVIDENCE. You need eeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvidence!

P.S. Bunny Lake is Missing = masterpiece, one of his many. In some ways, it's the perfect Preminger gateway drug since his observational style doesn't mute the thriller aspects that rise to the surface only in subsequent viewings of Fallen Angel or Angel Face. And what he does with Noel Coward is a moral triumph. We are not worthy.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you dig it?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think Such Good Friends gets mentioned anywhere here. I used to watch it on TV in the '70s, hoping I'd see Dyan...well, never mind about my bilious private life. Saw it for the first time in ages last year, part of a Preminger series at the Cinematheque. It was okay, barely.

clemenza, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, unsurprisingly, I love the shit out of it. Of his 1970s films, it's second only to his apocalyptic swansong The Human Factor. The ending of Such Good Friends offers one of cinema's great images of calm acceptance and mature focus, particularly felt after such a juicily off-kilter film.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I did like the ending, and almost mentioned it in my post--couldn't remember specifically how it ended, though.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Just remembered my favourite film joke ever, attributed to some famous director (forget who): "I passed Otto Preminger's house the other day--or should I say, 'a house by Otto Preminger'?"

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you dig it?

Laura? Yeah! I own it -- one of my favorite films.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

No, no, Bunny Lake is Missing

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

saw Otto in the Nilsson documentary, encased in a groovy blue hippie outfit on the set of Playboy After Dark as Harry sang.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I just started the Hirsch biography.

Should I bother with In Harm's Way? Not too stodgy?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

I bought a remaindered copy of this a few weeks ago:

http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ottopreminger-fujiwara.jpg

I read the Advise and Consent chapter while killing time before a movie. Based on that, I'd never make it through the whole book:

"Appropriately, the dialogue of Advise and Consent is filled with performatives. Senators say 'I move,' or 'I yield,' or 'I ask,' or 'I suggest,' or 'I release,' and their saying these things effectuates the things they say."

Making it the complete opposite of American Beauty, where Kevin Spacey says "Pass the asparagus" and everyone ignores him.

clemenza, Monday, 4 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Am reading yet another recently published bio of the guy different from the ones you guys are reading.

Safe European HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

j/k. But the guy does seem to have even more biographers than Nikola Tesla.

Safe European HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

oh, In Harm's Way is a must, if only for what Kirk Douglas's character... does.

anyone rep for The Human Factor? Dave Kehr presiding over a screening in Brooklyn Monday. I remember hearing Otto being interviewed by Julian Schlossberg (onetime studio exec) on his WABC radio show "Movietalk" when OP was doing press for it.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

ok, I guess it was WMCA or WOR (ABC was still a music station then)

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Anatomy of a Murder is so good. Jimmy Stewart's performance is the capstone of his fifties work: we see how his aw-shucks manner is an act, turned on and off for deliberate manipulative effect.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Criterion forthcoming btw.... supplements v intriguing:

http://www.criterion.com/films/27901-anatomy-of-a-murder

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

from G Kenny on above:

"Even in the wrong—-that’s right, wrong—-Academy ratio framing of this 1959 film released on DVD by Sony many years back, this picture maintained a great deal of its fluid multi-leveled visual complexity. The correct 1.85 framing and the boosted detail here (some of which, admittedly, conks out briefly for a shot or two at a time—look for decreased forehead-wrinkle levels in a shot in the first Gazzara/Stewart confab about 19 minutes in, for instance) AMPLIFY that quality, which helps in turn to reveal why it is, in fact, one of the Great Films. The shot of Stewart’s character scoping out the awards and newspaper clippings on the wall of the Thunder Bay Inn here shows Preminger as a definite info-fiend precursor to David Fincher. Haven’t explored extras but don’t need to to award this a personal:— A+ "

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

LOVE THIS MOVIE

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing Laura this Sunday in its newly restored versh - can't wait.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Bonjour Tristesse is on now or soon at FF, I believe

The Unbassful Serpent (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

^^It's also due to be announced sometime soon on limited edition bluray from Twilight Time.

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

box o' three sleeper/dud '67-71 films:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/the-otto-preminger-collection/2478

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

so Jackie Gleason tripping balls isn't worth a look?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

yes

doesn't mean it isn't awful

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Need to check out some more stuff by this guy.

Anatomy of a Murder is brilliant – probably the best courtroom drama I’ve ever seen. There’s only one weak acting performance (from the main prosecuting counsel) which sticks out a bit but the rest of them are outstanding. Great score from Duke Ellington too.

Laura is super too. Beautiful theme music drifting through it.

Can't remember much about Bunny Lake is Missing a bit of an oddity as I remember...

Bonjour Tristesse was shown (restored!) at the London Film Festival this year. Didn't like it when I first saw it, find myself liking it more and more as time goes on.

Exodus lasts forever but was ok. The old story about it was that at a pre-release screening, one of the production company’s executives (a jew named Mort Sahl) stood up about 2 and a half hours into the movie and called out “Otto, Let my People Go!” (probably apocryphal)...

River of No Return was good but I’ve forgotten most of it. For years I’ve wanted to see Advise and Consent but have always missed it

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

one of the production company’s executives (a jew named Mort Sahl)

uh? Sahl was one of the great innovative post-Catskills standup comics

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

(still living btw)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Ah yes, my mistake...

"When Exodus was first released, a funny story circulated concerning comedian Mort Sahl. Supposedly, he stood up in the middle of a premiere screening of the film with Preminger present and shouted, 'Otto, let my people go' in reference to the interminable length of the film. Most critics, but not audiences, tended to agree with Sahl."

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Bunny Lake will always be classic to me just because of that one turning point involving a doll

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Anatomy of a Murder is brilliant – probably the best courtroom drama I’ve ever seen. There’s only one weak acting performance (from the main prosecuting counsel) which sticks out a bit but the rest of them are outstanding. Great score from Duke Ellington too.

Always loved the way that the score runs through the first half of the film, which is lively and jumping as Stewart's record collection, before disappearing completely for the formal courtroom procedural in the second half, only returning in full swing once the film leaves the courtroom at the very end.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

watched 'bunny lake' for the 1st time - solid until the reveal, then nearly unwatchable

johnny crunch, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link

Agreed.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

i don't know about "unwatchable," but the ending is definitely a letdown. before that there are passages that rival preminger's best work.

bonjour tristesse 4eva

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link

briefly available on DVD in spring '08, alas

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link

that chris fujiwara book mentioned above is pretty worthless IMO. just superficial "analyses" of films with very selective biographical information. and lots of errors of fact.

xpost

i sold my DVD of bonjour tristesse to ryuichi sakamoto!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

For the longest time, the Fry's by me kept a copy of BT in their "Foreign" rack.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

that's understandable, i guess

is it just me who gets annoyed when foreign films are alphabetized by article? so "la ronde" is in the Ls (as are many if not most French films), "il grido" is in the Is, etc. i feel like video stores would be doing the world a service if they stopped this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

i will always love that ridiculous turning point/reveal in Bunny

Nhex, Friday, 31 May 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link


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