New York City is for sellouts

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http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/blizzardycar.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

I guess I was expecting this big culture clash mash up of greens and wurst or something.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/budweiser.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.kossarsbialys.com/

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Get yer brats on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/panties.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/avenuex.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us25.jpg

We have a million diners.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.co-ra.com/~gourlay/scrytch/images/portfolio/places/full/2000-nyc-cloisters-vaulted-ceiling.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/cyclone.jpg

(these pictures are all my answers to the question)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

An old mental hospital.
>img src="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us14.jpg">

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/summer/freakshow.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

An old mental hospital.
http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~sack/us14.jpg

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Those winter pictures are lovely Ally, but really could be in any city in the midwest.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.sixfoot6.com/photos/ryan/nyc/river4bridgewide.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

But if we have the pictures, do we need to go now? *hides*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.tribeofman.com/images/NEW%20YORK%20CITY%2311.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

Those winter pictures are lovely Ally, but really could be in any city in the midwest.

B-b-but if you move here you can have the midwest AND Germany AND Worcester and a million other places all in one city with an easily navigable and reasonably cheap transportation system!

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

I'm wondering too if there could be any cache to moving to NYC now, after 9/11. Thoughts?

I think most of the reasons one would have for living and loving where you live are personal. They can seem like nice reasons to others but unless they're *your* reasons no one else is going to get them.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

They couldn't be any city in the midwest--all those photos were taken about 2 feet from Central Park, which is the nicest municipal park I've ever gone to in any city.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/after.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.liberty-stone.com/oystercounter.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:09 (twenty years ago) link

Not technically in the city but within such a reasonable distance:

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/belmont.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

http://newmedia.jrn.columbia.edu/2003/islands/zone3/images/zone1_historylobster.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, the pictures are really good pro-NYC arguments...

..for visiting.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

We aren't asking you to move here.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/July4/legoclash1.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, well the impetus of the thread was about people specifically moving to New York City.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

http://forgotten-ny.com/CEMETERIES/Prospect%20cemetery/prosp6.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

NA - I'll try to justify later, but for people who live here, honestly, we hold the truth to be self-evident

(also, um, some people grew up here)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but I don't WANT any of you people moving here!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

http://toddcam.com/site/nycity/helltcpx.jpg

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.worldsbestbars.com/images/bars/22_big.jpg

(Tracer, Felicity, Mary, bnw--look familiar?)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

http://forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/GREENWICH%20VILLAGE/grove3.jpg

http://forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/GREENWICH%20VILLAGE/pamela1.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

http://camelot.mssm.edu/~andrei/pictures/snowing%20over%20central%20park.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but I don't WANT any of you people moving here!

Then why make the case for how great it is for all the random googlers who will eventually read the thread! ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

More discussion, less pictures!

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inctbuh/htmlfiles/featured_buildings/big_imgs/citicorp3.jpg

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but I don't WANT any of you people moving here!

..says the Phoenix native?

Sorry, Ally, didn't mean to be flippant. No one should be made to feel guilty about moving to any place if they just feel it suits them. But I think NA's indirect point is that there is nagging "NY is the only place" vibe that gets tiring after a while. (not accusing you of that)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/circlecruise.jpg

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/apple.jpg

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/wbridge.jpg

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/littlelighthouse.jpg

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/coney3.jpg

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link

Um, DB, I'm NOT a Phoenix native. Living in a place != being born in a place. My dad was temporarily transferred to Phoenix when I was about 12. Where he promptly lost his job when the aerospace industry went "You want a job? Fuck you niggaz!" in the early '90s. Thus stranding my entire family in Phoenix for quite some time. There's a reason why as soon as I had saved up enough cash to buy a one way ticket and a deposit on an apt, I bolted. NYC represented a time in my life when I was happy. Everywhere else did not. NYC won.

http://www.essentialbigapple.com/graphics/66stsign.jpg

Gareth's pix are lovely :)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

Goddamn. Too late to weigh in properly on this thread, I guess.

I'll say this, though. I certainly wish fuckin' less people would move here and leave the city for those snobby shits like myself who were actually born here, goddammit!

Just kidding......sorta.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

Ally's NYC seems different from Jody's NYC which seems different from Tracer's NYC.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

also, um, some people grew up here

And some elsewhere! And that's a large part of it too, what feels like 'home,' wherever it is. I had the best of both worlds, I think, in that I grew up moving around to various places -- including upstate New York, let us not forget! -- but kept coming back to San Diego as a home. I'm used to SoCal, its weather and its ways and its atmosphere, and I dearly love it still. For all the cases that can be made for NYC and all the comparative inconveniences that may occur -- the whole 'how do you live in SoCal without a car' thing, f'r instance -- there's as much captivation and potential magic here as there is there. I wouldn't make the case for it being better than NYC but I *would* make the case that it's more equal than either side would realize, and you could make similar comparisons for many other cities and NYC at that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

I'd love to move there, but I want some kind of idea of what I'd do (a job, ie) waiting for me. call me unadventurous, I guess.

ha, nativism, gimme a break.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, thank you for bringing up a really painful experience, actually! That's not even the worst thing that happened to me in Arizona. My parents are still stuck there, having never recovered from spending about 4 or 5 years on $5k income per year with four kids and having to declare bankruptsy. One day they might be able to move back to the east coast again, and one day I might be able to see them more than, like, once every two or three years. That'd be awesome.

To me, the western states are one big vacuous hole of hellpit.

So yeah, to me, people move to NYC for personal reasons. Other people might be here for other reasons, but since I never ask them, I don't speculate why they might want to be here.

(massive xpost)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, my mistake, Ally, about the Phoenix thing. Sorry. (Though I think having that experience taint your view of the entire west coast is a bit much though.)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

My NYC's a lot like Tracer's NYC, but I had a bunch of the photos I posted on this thread bookmarked from showing them to someone recently, so I just pulled them up. :-)

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.graffiti.org/nyctrains/blend.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.graffiti.org/nyctrains/character.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

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