Explain me CrossGen

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the way Green Lantern isn't quite a superhero, in a lot of his comics

you lost me.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The idea being that he's a space policeman?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Tep's getting @ that GL's used a lot like a space adventurer (cf. Adam Strange, Jon Carter, Han Solo) than an actual super-hero at times, & that his adventures are more like soft sci-fi than superhero tales. Except that he can make neat stuff w/ his ring. (Or what Tom said.)

That's what I was getting @ with CG's supposed claim (& I don't know if it's a claim their press materials actually made, or what pro-CG folks said when praising CG) - superhero books already use a lot of the supposedly neglected fiction dramas within their framework (cf. Batman & Daredevil as crime fiction, cosmic DC stories as sci-fi, time travel adventures into the Wild West, jungle adventures w/ Ka-Zar and the X-Savages w/ DINO-RACHEL). And, of course, these genres were usually blended together in one story, like almost any Savage Land or Wakanda story in the Marvelverse, where JUNGLE ADVENTURE meets SCIENCE FICTION.

To sell fans already kneedeep in X-books and Crises on a group of books that tells similar types of pulpy stories in a similar pulpy publishing format in a similar type of creative framework (the shared universe, w/ continuity & all of that) but excluding the sugared pill (the superhero!) that made such stories easy to swallow for folks not looking for just straight up sci-fi / westerns / fantasy in their graphically sequential narratives is a hard sell, unless the creators are top-notch and the hook is irresistable. Probably the most damning praise that can be offered re: CG's output is that it was consistently solid, and the majority of folks CG hired to write their books (vets like Barbara Kesel, Ron Marz, Chuck Dixon) are those types of "consistently solid" writers - not spectacular, not godawful, just servicable & (again) consistent. They punch the clock, they meet their deadlines, they know their stuff, and that's that. Not a bad thing, but not an awe-inspiring thing, either.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, that's what I thought.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

And while that may be true of the concept, GL, has far more often been played as a superhero, while Hawkman actually has been used as space cop way more often.
Anyway.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, "a lot of his comics" there = "the Green Lantern Corps mostly." Green Lantern's a superhero largely because he's in a superhero world -- the costume's a uniform, the secret identity's not very important, etc. Or maybe "he's only a superhero when he's on Earth."

A lot of CrossGen's launch stuff was much closer to that -- power as something granted/inherited, with responsibilities attached, not as a product of accident or personal design, with the conflicts closer to the GL scale than matters of vigilantism (some of this is because -- or why -- Ron Marz wrote at least one of the launch books).

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link


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