― Mr Noodles, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I prefer Zuma.
― jel --, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris Barrus, Saturday, 27 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― popeye, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
did anyone else see neil young solo on his european tour, with his new "greendale" material? i saw him twice, and it was very good. the second time especially, cos i was more familiar with the new material, theres some potentially good stuff on there, although i think some of it will work better when played with the band on the album (which is ralph and billy of crazy horse for the most part from what i hear, which is promising news). im gonna see him when im in the lazing around in the US next month too, at concord CA.
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
Some of these tracks if remixed by Drexicya (RIP), Two Lone Swordsmen, Adult. or someone similar could be quite good and could perhaps become somewhat popular. The songs themselves are better than most techno/electro pop song matierial.
Neil Young had some cajones to even make a record like this one, no wonder David Geffen thought he had flipped.
― earlnash, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
while "sample and hold", "we R in control" and "computer age" seem like compotent if slightly boring yet tongue-in-cheek rock-disco "crossover" attempts, "computer cowboy" is such a very well constructed song, with great noises as well as the vocoder, lyrics that could be applied to George W Bush (see also "we r in control"), and a nice momentum, build up of tension, and noise (it seems playing the track may destroy speakers on some stereo systems, reminding me a bit of that "oomph" i'd have more likely expected of some throbbing gristle).
i wonder, could anyone recommend any contemporary "dance music" or "rock music" that is as well-constructed with respect to noise, 4-on-the-floor and those "oomph" dynamics ?
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:41 (twenty years ago) link
I guess reactor is a better consistent rocker, but i wish he'd kept those synth bass noises onboard as part of his rock music sound, sounds that he used sparingly and appropriately (cf: typical synth-only music)
perhaps i should check out "Weight of the World", even if landing on water seemed very light-weight when i heard that (again years ago)
the heavy synth really adds something to the rock sound i think when as here it's added to the conventional rock'n'roll arsenal and not merely substituted for good bass playing (since said substitution often seems to translate to bad bass-paying, emulation)
please someone recommend some rock music that does that (ie real rythym section of bass and drums (not drum and bass machines) plus synth oomph)
― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:59 (twenty years ago) link
I'd say try some Chrome and mid-period Six Finger Satellite (Severe Exposure especially).
― Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 26 December 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 27 December 2003 05:01 (twenty years ago) link
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― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 28 December 2003 22:27 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 28 December 2003 22:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 28 December 2003 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link
I like Little Thing Called Love, like a faster, happier version of 'Only Love Can Break Your Heart':
Only love puts a tear in your eyeOnly love makes you hypnotiyizedOnly love makes you chooseOnly love brings you...the bloooz.
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― I know, right?, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― Jiminy Krokus, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
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― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
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― sanskrit, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Charming in many ways, especially from a 20 years-after-the-fact hindsight view (the same way it's entertaining to watch Clockwork Orange and think about its view of what those in the early Seventies thought the future [which is today] would look like).
― Tinky-Winky, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link
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― I know, right?, Monday, 14 May 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Listening for the first time - this is a very timely album.
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
this album's great! kinda marred by the inclusion of the non-synth/electro stuff though. so unnecessary.
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
but I adore "Like an Inca" though. I've listened to it more often than "Cortez the Killer," I think.
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
(I guess that one's non-synth besides the two-note synth motif in the chorus)
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
It is Neil Young's best album.^^^^belongs in the challops hall of fame ... not even in Neil Young's top ten best albums, though you could make a case for it being the best of the 80s, maybe. it is pretty fascinating overall -- is there an example of another major 60s rock artist trying something so weirdly daring in the 80s?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i fixed a facebook quiz so that i could get this as my 'what neil young album are you'
― like totally gr80 to the max (jaxon), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Is Human Highway ever going to get rereleased? If they put it on BlueRay, that would be the thing pushing me into buying a player.
― I X Love (Abbott), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know about a re-release, but if you just need a copy you can e-mail me @ dr.carl.sagan at gmail
― ian, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
You kick ass.
― I X Love (Abbott), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
haha, enjoy ....
― tylerw, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link
or rather, "enjoy"
just remembered that the non-LP single version of Mr Soul was better than the one on Trans. Never checked to see if it was available. I remember it as being a denser/louder sound. Anyone know if it's out there as MP3, bonus track .. ( I could search, I guess.)
― dave225, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I've seen Human Highway before & I totally enjoyed it.
― I X Love (Abbott), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Underrated half-assterpiece. The half that's good is my favorite Neil Young I've ever heard.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Trans is so fucking good. Especially loud.
harmonies on Sample & Hold are godlike.
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, seriously, "sample and hold" owns. juiced up severed heads with sweet harmonies or a kinder gentler skinny puppy
― brimstead, Sunday, 19 April 2015 08:09 (eight years ago) link
i buy used copies of this vinyl on the cheap whenever I see it with the intention of handing them out to bring new members into the blessed Trans fold.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
Well. I wish I was an Aztec,Or a runner in PeruI would build suchbeautiful buildingsTo house the chosen fewLike an Inca from Peru.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
such a weird record, and the "sad robot" vibes ARE Dicsovery-onwards Daft Punk 20 years early
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
love the extended mix of Mr Soul on the Sample & Hold single
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
It's almost hard to imagine people hating on Neil's vocoder vocals now that processed vocals are so ubiquitous in popular music. Like, Transformer Man sounds downright quaint now. He'd have to type the lyrics into a computer and build up the songs 100% digitally rather than just processing analog inputs if he wanted to make a futuristic statement these days.
― BrianB, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
such a good album
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
cis crushercis crusher
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link
said it before and I’ll say it again- if you haven’t heard the “sample and hold” castoff from his mtv unplugged session yr missing out
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link
sample and hold is sick, industrial
― brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:30 (three years ago) link
satisfaction guaranteed
― brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link
the archives release i want the most is the "real" trans - the all synth album that was eventually turned into the existing trans where the more traditional rock songs were taken from the scrapped 82 album "johnny's island"
neil is releasing johnny's island, i hope that clears the way for the complete trans.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-johnnys-island-1121757/
it's supposed to contain my most desired neil unreleased track, an all-synth version of "razor love" which ended up on silver & gold, this would sound so amazing w/sequencers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKNCAQQaNP8
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
omg want
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
also interestingly, on some of the first pressing of trans there was a song "if you got love" that was cut so late in the process that it's actually on the back cover tracklist, that song has never been heard either as far as i know
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1779/8843/products/trans3_1024x1024.jpg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link
I read about "Razor Love" in Shakey, but I couldn't find the original
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
yeah I don't think it's ever surfaced, tyler would know for sure but i've never seen anything
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
assuming if you got love went all the way through mastering if it was listed on the cover art
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
I kind of prefer the shorter version of "Sample and Hold" to the 8-minute CD version, would be good to have both easily available.
― a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
I first knew sample and hold and transformer man via the lucky thirteen comp
― brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link
me too! that was a cool comp back in the day esp when that era was largely unknown (to me at least)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link
it's amazing that the catchy, accessible, occasionally moving (now unintentionally retrofurist) electronic stuff is what people took issue with on this album considering how dire the more traditional stuff is (the first track, my god). if had been all synth based it would be great rather than pretty good
― nothing (Left), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
Been saying the same for years. As I understand it, the electronic stuff was recorded first but I don't think there was enough of it for an entire album.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
... typographic mistake. The album is actually called TRAINS
― StanM, Friday, 26 March 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
i don't think the trad stuff is that bad, but it's obvious the real meat of the album is the trans-ass trans tracks
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
Like An Inca is great, the rest of the non-electronic tracks not so much
― a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
we know you'll be satisfiedwhen you energize
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
As stated, the opening track is terrible.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
"Hold On to Your Love" is nice though, if a bit wet.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
because i love thematically messy albums, i have to say that —while i love trans quite a lot and consider it one of the last hurrahs of truly classic neil— it could be improved by adding 'wanderin' from everybody's rockin' because why the hell not.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
the wiki for trans says "After a year of work, the album was mixed in a hurry because Young was eager to go out on tour (documented in the home video Neil Young in Berlin), and a last-minute change in the running order is evident in the inclusion of a song called "If You Got Love" in the track listing and lyric sheet, even though it is not on the album.[3] Portions of several tracks appeared in Young's 1982 feature-length comedy film Human Highway.[11]"
i've never seen human highway, so i'm not sure if this means that portions of songs that were ON trans were featured in human highway or if some of the cut songs were?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
I had that Berlin vhs, it’s great - don’t know what happened to it ☹️
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
Nils Lofgren is wonderfully hamming it up in that Berlin performance iirc
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 26 March 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link
that i know is supposed to be re-released
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
I rented it from Netflix in the mid '00s.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
ha me too. nils' interpretive dancing is unforgettable
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
Ditto!
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link
if you got love has been bootlegged for ages — kind of a Santana groove meets "Flying On The Ground Is Wrong" haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2xasVHiL6s
The synth "Razor Love" has never shown up as far as I know.
― tylerw, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link
I'm pretty sure the Human Highway film doesn't contain any unreleased Neil songs.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link
i find this a middling album because it's not cohesive for the reasons as noted by a bunch of people above. although i actually don't mind "a little thing call love" and I love "hold on to your love"
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 March 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
Didn't Human Highway have the Devo/Neil synth version of Hey Hey My My?
― brutalism is a piss-stained multistory car park in stockport (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
I'd consider that a Devo cover with Neil guesting, not an unreleased song?
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link