― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
"Looking for music" sums up this phase of the Clash perfectly. They were totally fearless and confident that having summed up where rock had been with the last testament of London Calling, they were going to discover the future. It was so diverse and challenging that it would shake the attention span of a casual listener, and only a music nerd was going to find it fulfilling.
I still remember the weekday night as a teenager when I first played it. As the needle came up on the 6th side, I thought this is the most ambitious and mind expanding thing I'd ever heard. Of course it's a rambling mess, but like a Cassavettes or Wim Wenders movie, it uncovers feelings that can only be brought about by meandering.
― bendy (bendy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― bendy (bendy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― nate p. (natepatrin), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Somebody Got Murdered is better than anything on London Calling
― bovarism, Saturday, 13 November 2021 03:29 (two years ago) link
Jones probably could have* made millions just as an arranger-for-hire in LA. Though who knows if his ear for parts doesn’t hit as well when it’s ppl who can actually sing well.* maybe still could! His stacked vocal parts, playing against & entwined with each other in his classic style, on last year’s Avalanches album apparently only happened bcz he happened to be in the room when they skyped Cola Boyy to record the verses?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:03 (two years ago) link
I did not know that! Will check, thanks.Oh mang I got it when first came out, listened a lot, liked it a lot, but sometimes became aware of wondering what they and I were doing...what's it all about, Alfie? Many years later, this improbable tribute album helped clear up some of those problem(?) areas, as I briefly reported in the Voice:
MAY 8, 2007 AT 4 A.M.The Sandinista! Project, commissioned and assembled by long-game rock journalist Jimmy Guterman (The Self-Portrait Project may someday follow) is a two-CD, four-year, complete urban renewal of the Clash's 36-track, three-LP sonic cosmopolis. Released in late 1980 (when punk could seem as old and established as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, though rather less successful politically), the original Sandinista! implicitly addressed and sometimes sounded stressed by the clash of identity and adaptability. Most of the many various artists on TSP tap into the achievement and potential of this driving, driven undercurrent. The Mekons' Jon Langford and Sally Timms (with Ship And Pilot) get New Orleans street song "Junco Partner" higher, lighter, and tighter than the Clash can; blue notes are bluer too.More clearly than ever, these songs embody the risks and payoffs of conflict. On "One More Time/One More Dub," ex-Voidoid Ivan Julian tilts galaxies of guitar through rippling immersions of Iranian-American chanteuse Haale, as his bass pushes notes almost deeper than feeling, with constant harassment from ex-Lounge Lizard Dougie Bowne's drums. Also, Julian plays guitar on "The Call Up," one of the original set's strongest tracks. Here, re-tuned voices still keen warnings to "young people down through the ages," while The Lothars' ancient Space Age theramins swoop like patrols of lost souls pressed into service over grinding post–Oil Age reggae beats. Project only stumbles when it stays too close to original versions—unlike Wreckless Eric, rattling and wailing, "Stepping out a rhythm that can take the tension on/Stepping in and out of that crooked, crooked beat." Now I get it!
― dow, Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:13 (two years ago) link
You know, this is not a particularly good Stones song, but I heard it the other day and though, hmm, I can imagine this on "Sandinista!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pYBQg4qifU
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 November 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link
Here's that Jones / Avalanches joint, dow.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
Thanks! I waited so long for the Avalanches that I don't feel guilty for not being around when they did show up. but this reminds me of no real excuse for not checking on Jones from time to time, especially since I did half-ass keep up with Strummer, will have to look into this new comp: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/joe-strummer-assembly/
Also, on another Clash thread, I followed the link to an excellent,mostly eyewitness 101ers saga, which seemed like it might be too deferential at first, but author grew some opinions, and btw verrrry unimpressed with very early Pistols, pretty funny:https://trouserpress.com/letsagetabitarockin/
Julian Temple's 2007 documentary, Joe Strummer---The Future Is Unwritten, goes through pretty much his whole life, thoughtful and really good w the audiovisuals, as you might hope (and you might well hope, in this case) of a movie. Would link from YouTube, but looks like have to rent.
― dow, Friday, 19 November 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link
the tracks from both London Calling and Sandanista! bring back such emotions
― Dan S, Friday, 19 November 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link
xxxxp Forgot about that one! Guterman actually had a blog that documented its progress. Poor guy, I was stunned by his passing in 2016. I didn't realize he was struggling on the inside.
I emailed him once asking him if that Jerry Lee Lewis anthology he put together for Rhino would ever come back into print. He replied that he didn't think so, but offered to send me a CD-R copy (which he did) because he was shocked it was going for a ton of money on Amazon. Great set, it's too bad he had to cut it down to two CD's instead of three - I would've been interested to see what else he would've added from Lewis's later post-Sun recordings. Beyond that, Guterman even reprinted his entire Jerry Lee Lewis bio - out-of-print as well - for free on one of his websites. A very generous man to say the least. Rest easy, Jimmy.
― birdistheword, Friday, 19 November 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
I've grown to love Sandinista! but I still wish it had been broken out into a double LP + bonus single and a separate 12" EP that would have included all of the dubs.
― birdistheword, Friday, 19 November 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
Booming posts as always, birdistheword! Did not know about his JLL anth and bio, will have to look for those. From my Nashville Scene ballot, comments re '07 releases, more about The Sandinista! Project:A lot of no-show promos from Nashville this year, but it's all right,I've just gone a little further afield than usual. For instance, TheSandinista! Project: produced by Jimmy Guterman, covers of theentire 3-LP set on 2 CDs, by Jon Langford & Sally Timms, Katrina ofKatrina And The Waves, Wreckless Eric, Camper Van Beethoven, AmyRigby, Jason Ringenberg & Kristi Rose, Steve Wynn, Willie Nile, MikeyDread, Sid Griffith's Coal Porters, Ruby On The Vine (featuringMyrna Marcarian of Human Switchboard), and a lot of people I neverheard of, many of whom also do some startlingly good stuff, so it'snot just Indie Big/Heard Of Name Placebo Effect, I don't think(Although some of the no-name people are a little too reverent to thewordiness of the texts or slowness of The Clash's own performances,so it's not just lower case no name placebo effect either.) Feeling stuck in the spotlight and the perfectly sealed over image of rebellion,TheClash tried to break on through to the para-punk world, much of it in living color, but they did so with the limited skill sets of themselves and their tiny coterie, for whole teeming subcontinents of soundmasses, dub etc. The Project's bands wisely delve into one song each. But such rich material, and it's not just, maybe not mainly the writing, but the groove too, implied and/or realized, to whatever degree: The Clash's version of post-punk goes past the bounds of the recent trend,yet loops through the experiments of Wilco and The Mekons, backthrough the studio-as-instrument stuff to the country and punk phases,back to Englishmen who were kids in the 60s, and their take onskiffle, ska, various New Orleans (incl urban cajun), and rural paradebeats, and yeah nascent hip-hop, dub; but where The Clash's vocals andproduction could blur into an atmosphere too thin and thick at thesame time, and too tenuous, technically(at least on the original vinyland cheap speakers), other artists have picked up where they left off,without surpassing the basic strengths of these songs, which aremostly rejuvenated here, and fairly often in a countryoid way. Notjust in terms of energy, or different drugs, but the Clashiancombination of stylistic elements, with transitions in and betweentracks, and the way the album loops back to pick up an earlierapproach, and develop it further (true in the original, but this tribmakes it clearer to me), and their characteristic combination ofseriousness and humor, linear development and dubwise ricochet,kinetic mass and leaves of grass, as honored here in spirit andappropriate adaptation, makes them sound at least as right and ripefor the Double 0s as for the 80s. (Maybe not if this album had comeout in the 90s, which seemed like Austin Powers' preferred memory ofthe 60s, at least for lucky millions; sucked to be other billions, butthere you go-go.) Example of how one track builds on another: wasthinking I'd like to hear more of that bluesy fiddle bouncing alongunder Jon Langford and Sally Timms's "Junco Partner." Which is a muchbetter track, all the way through, than the perky-on-cue rhythm, Imean "riddim" mocking Strummer's dry, take-it-or-leave-it emphasis gotto be (too conceptual, after more than a few minutes, it seems; we getit already). But in a much quicker already, I'm wanting more fromLangford and Timms, cos this new version is so good, that they'veshown me could be even better.(After writing this, I realized thatthe point is in the degree of restraint: the sly old partner knowshe'll never get out of his street beat alive). But then the very nexttrack does bring out the fiddle's blues and fun more, as JasonRingenberg and Kristi Rose get a lot more subtle than they usually do,by winding with the fiddle, through the long lines of "When Ivan MeetsG.I. Joe," way after the pinball machines have been shut down, noattempt to improveon 80s sound EFX here, just ease us through theshadows, til we reach the international tough guy stuff , on passingposters and screens, and start another turn. (This really seems likethe centerpiece of the whole Project, speaking of those time/styleloops, even though it's only Track 4.) Wreckless Eric's "CrookedBeat" combines modern technology and 25 years of practice for inspiredwoodshed electronics (which sound Orwellian in Bee Maidens' "MensforthHill", like what's probing Winston and Julia's love nest, back in1984, but also turns out to be the old man's story from "SomethingAbout England," just recognizable as it [life and history] disappearbackwards over said hill, sucked in like spaghetti, or like gristlebetween teeth, all of which is country enough for me.) The Lothars'name might come from 60s' group Lothar And The Hand People, in whichLothar was a theramin, because a whole patrol of are we not theraminkeep patrolling "The Call Up, " which is a bit like Devo's version of"Workin' In A Coal Mine" and Neil Young's Trans, but eerier (and moreforegone, far-gone rural-industrial) than either. Speaking ofversions, Tim Krekel's "Version City" is the post-alt.countrymainstream-accessible triumph, pop train song with doppler shifthorns, like Mr. Krekel, an expert Kentucky-to-Music Row commuter,probably is familiar with (being, for inst, leader of the Octaves octet,sensibility neighbors of the nascent NRBQ, back when they all started in Louisville), and fans of Tim McGraw's rusty-vocodered"Fly Away" really really should hear it too. Sally Timms & JonLangford return with "Version Pardner," which seems like mostlyacoustic dub, until tape Sallys sally back again, and one of her hasone hand waving free ("He-e-ey," even if she's still falling forwardand around with that ol' Partner man again).And that's just one moreupside down moment folded into a bouquet of dub, which is still justtrying to take country's ID crisis on a seismic cruise, oowee baby.(Meanwhile, over on Silver Monk Time: A Tribute To The Monks, That's a good 'un too.
― dow, Friday, 19 November 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
nd too tenuous, technically(at least on the original vinyland cheap speakers), And my listening to it for comparison to the tribute was still limited, never did get the CDs, so might be too limited in my take---but that's the way I always heard the original: digging it, but also hearing clash of skillz and vision.
― dow, Friday, 19 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link