RFI: CURRENT Rai, Zouk, Afropop & African Hiphop

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Kwaito: South African Hip Hop is misleadingly titled--the style is more hip-house than anything, and a lot of trax on the disc are pretty early '90s in a Snap!-py kind of way. Since I love Snap!, that's no bad thing in my book, but the kwaito artists are also tougher and more intricate. It's a really, really good album.

Less so but still right up yr alley is Africa Raps, new on Trikont, a German label you may be familiar with: they've put out a lot of really cool comps over the last few years. Again, think early '90s, but also think American--the biggest difference a lot of the time is that they're rapping in a different language. Not great, but fascinating if you're interested in this sort of thing.

And Femi is very overrated IMHO.

M Matos, Thursday, 4 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ten months pass...
even some Dick Dalesque surf guitar

But I think Dick Dale had some Lebanese background, or at least borrowed some ideas from middle eastern music, so it's not such a leap.

(Martin Skidmore to ILM.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 14 February 2003 01:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

mitch back to thread!

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 February 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Rachid Taha is grreat!!! 'Made in Medina' was a staple for a while Supposed to be amazing live, guess I'll see him at some point. To go back to original question, did you ever find stuff you were ineterested in? if not

not that hot on zouk at present - hear way too much here in clubs so burnt out and tend to ignore.

kwaito, check out Bongo Maffin - they are/were (mitch? help?) the leading pop kwaito group and a good starting point. as mentioned above kwaito is more hip-house. Maybe I can ask Mitch again if he knows about this hip-hop/high-life scene apparently existing in Jo'burg.

rai - i haven't heard anything new really exciting that is strictly rai. stuff like Rachid Taha's fusions of rock, dance, rai etc. is more interesting. there was an article in the Voice October or so called "All Chao's Children" which talks about the North African/Marseilles fusions going on which might provide some listening possibilities.

i live the Phat Global comp but it is more remix based and I'm not sure if that is what you're looking for (Phat Global Vol. 2 coming this year so I'm a happy puppy)

(btw Michelangelo, agree that Femi is not that interesting musically but he puts on an amazing live show)

-h-

(Fritz, check your e-mail, need your addy so I can send you that mix)

H (Heruy), Friday, 14 February 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Can i resurrect this thread to see if anyone else has any ideas on what might be hot in the rai world right now (well over the past five years anyway)? I heard quite a few good things when I lived in the North African quarter of Paris, but never managed to get any names (primarily because my French is awful....). I've heard quite a bit of Rachid Taha, but it's a bit too, well, polite for the music that really interested me. The style I was drawn to was heavily upbeat, sounded as though it had absorbed hip-hop or house influences, and came across (in a way similar to favela funk or kwaito or desi) as a real meld of traditional and modern.

Any ideas?

baboon2004 (baboon2004), Monday, 15 November 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I notice that Khaled is playing in London next month. Is he a bit bland and dull these days, as is my vague impression? I love his '80s stuff.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

^

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Sunday, 3 May 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

africanhiphop.com

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

S/D African hip-hop

What are you looking for Roxy? If only someone in South Africa could start posting here again...

curmudgeon, Sunday, 3 May 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Or someone from Paris or North Africa...

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 May 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Or anyone, really.

we know gay coop (roxymuzak), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I luv me some ILX, but I wish threads that are not american indie-rock or punk would get some more posts. I guess we gotta find time to research this stuff ourselves and recruit folks to post here...

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 May 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know the difference between any of it (yet) but I've started to really become a fan of this radio show on 1Xtra by DJ Edu - Destination Africa but I don't really know where to go next.

X-Ray Parlour (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 9 May 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Depends I guess on what you're looking for --rap or club style or afropop with a band...

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

I want to know more about zouk and other French/non-Anglophone Caribbean music. Is Zouk still a thing? I remember hearing a lot while in France in the 90s, but someone was telling me it's still going strong.

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 11 July 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

Zouk is GREAT and yeah, still going strong here (mostly - but not only - in the antillais circles).
I mentioned some of it in this thread :
Aya Nakamura, Naza and the new french urban scene

And there's some great zouk in the French football team's 2018 playlist :
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7roe9RLmenXQTmQwHnAaUA

Fanny J is a personal favourite (mostly her 2006 incredible album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjzze_QH8KA

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 11 July 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

Thanks AIXTC, I'll check this

frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

I posted two tracks from Martinique on the Rolling soca et cetera thread two months ago. Not exactly zouk, mind!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

I posted two tracks from Martinique on the Rolling soca et cetera thread two months ago. Not exactly zouk, mind!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

two, two, two...

breastcrawl, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link


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