A Rockists Guide To Rap

You're Dead...

For my list of 6 Rap/hiphop artists and 13 essential albums tune in to my next blog entry, due out sometime in October. I try to only post blogs once a month...otherwise folks will get too high of an expectation of me, and quite frankly, that makes me edgy.

WHAT ARE THE FOUR ELEMENTS OF ROCKISM?

Seriously? Give me a second, I'll go check wikipeida and get back to you...
*wagemann shuffles off to change his socks with anticipation that this could get ugly...

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), September 22nd, 2006. (later)

You do understand cut-and-paste, right? You accused all of the knowledge I've offered in your presence as having been a product of cut and paste before, so you should understand it.

I took the king of ILM rockists (melodyist?), and pasted his rap list for others, in the spirit of the thread of course.

Search POX: Hip-Hop albums to see what we've all already chosen...

Paul, always remember, you are loveable and capable.

After extensive research (that included wearing baggy pants and my ballcap cocked sideways while purchasing a little bling-bling on da street corner in da hood) ole Wagemann here has come up with 6 rap/hip hop artists who matter enough to make the list of 1000 most important Rockists artists of the last 20 years, and a full 13 essential albums that a Rockist must know in order to better understand Rap/HipHops influence on Rockism.BAN LOUIS JAGGER

-- Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWageman...), September 29th, 2006. (PaulEdwardWagemann) (1 trackback) (later)

Fixed.

(and with the x-post comes new evidence)

(ps...blog = myspace)

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The battle was drawed, sort of. Rock still exists and will still keep existing. For the moment it also seems rap will still exist, although mainly without the hip-hop genre, not crossing over to lots of other genres like it did in the 90s.

Also, in the words or prknbns on this thread

http://altpress.com/moshpit/printthread.cfm?Forum=20&Topic=5959

well, I 'll just cut and paste like you do:

Paul, i didn't really want to read this bullsht - partially because i'm sick of your repetitive behavior, and the other part because i honestly didn't care two sh]its about your beloved rockism.

today, for the first time, i clicked on the link you have had the entire time you've been on here. (or long enough to figure out sig's and links).
however, after scrolling through 9 pages of back and forth arguments that have led to NOTHING, i want to ask ONE question.

WHO IN THE FUCK MADE YOU KING OF MUSIC & GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE WHAT IS GOOD, WHAT ISN'T, AND WHAT IS "ESSENTIAL"?

yeah, great - you started a discussion thats going somewhere.
finally, it's about fucking time.

but what the fuck dude... you've gotta be joking me.
every other post you make is asking for someone to "prove" to you why their choice in essential music is better than yours - either that, or you're saying that these people can't back their shit up, when EVERYTHING YOU ARE FUCKING SAY IS AN OPINION.

if you want to have an opinion, have a fucking opinion, but cut the childish bullshit "i know more than you and everything i say is a fact" act out.
you have nothing to PROVE what you're saying - everything you say is being shot to hell ten times over.
these people have some great fucking points, but you have your head so far up your own royal ass, you're intolerent to everything they are saying.

stop being so damn defensive.
last i recalled, these people were merely trying to discuss with you what they thought the essential rock albums would be, and i personally think that they've altered your list for the better, or at least given you something to think about.

when you post a thread on a message board, you should expect people are going to reply.
but you are posting with the idea that what you are saying should be worshipped, that we are all going to bow at your feet and kiss your fucking ass because you seem to know so much.
i don't recall these guys and girls bashing your ideas, but discussing them, saying what THEY believe.

stop whining about how we don't respect you and your opinions, because when you do, you're being the poster-boy for hypocrisy.
this thread is the perfect fucking example to prove exactly why you are getting shit on this board.

if you want some fucking respect in here, you better start respecting other people.
this board isn't a fucking tyranny for whack-jobs who want to dictate - these people have NOTHING to prove to you.
if anything, you need to start proving yourself.
your lack of respect for other people is beyond comprehension.

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(super x-post, as expected)

what bands did 60s rockers used to listen to?

Can someone explain to the Cat who I'm quoting above, how the enlgish language is an evolving entity...and I dont like the way the word 'Rock' has been hi-jacked by the Popcicle Popologists and used an and ISM. Am I the only one outraged that these Pop fairy's are besmirching our sacred Rock? Rock once stood for something dammit! It was more than music it was both the manifestation and the motivation of an ethos. A honest, working-class, lets get stoned on our lunch break and get shit-faced and chase titties in our Camero on weekends ETHIC!
Well, sure those times are gone. But at its best Rock was universal. It touched something inside of people, and it still does today--and I have set out to reclaim all that is good about Rock and turn the derogatory term 'rockism' back onto these popist snobs (like the blacks turned the degoratory term niggger around, like 'punks' turned the term punk around and like faggots...well, faggots never quite succeeded, but dag gummit at least they tried!!!)
So can somebody please explain that to this guy I quoted. Explain to them that ole Wagemann here isnt a mindless automaton who goes along with wahtever the popular trends and political correctness police tell him he's supposed to go along with. Old Wagemann is inspired by Richard Pryor (who comes from peoria, just across the river from my hometown) and plays by his own rules, speaks his own language, and who, sure, will have sex with a heavy set woman every so often--is that so wrong?

Long Live Rock!
God Bless America!
Seacrest Out!

-- Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWageman...), September 26th, 2006. (later)

http://www.myspace.com/paulewagemann
38, chicago, likes big boobs

The answer is an emphatic and resounding yes! And why shouldn’t they? They’re people, too. What most people don’t know is why Smurfs are blue. Well, the reason is because Smurfs only have sex once a year. Face it: if you had sex only once a year, you’d be blue, too. Once a year, in the Smurf village, flags and banners fly happily in the breeze, proclaiming that the day of the annual Smuckfest has arrived. Birds sing and the Sun comes out to watch, despite the weather-Smurf’s direst predictions. I guess good ol’ Mr. Sun is a voyeur. In the middle of town, Papa Smurf gives a brief speech explaining the origin of the Smuckfest; how Dr. C. Everett Koop came to the village and warned all the Smurfs about AIDS.

Hey, didn't you say (repeatedly) you were a rockist? Why listen to Bach then?

check mod request re: big boobs

This is an interesting question actually...were you being serious or is this some kind of ILX-inside joke that old wagemann aint privy to?

what bands did 60s rockers used to listen to?

10/10 CSS on this thread

Rock Aint Dead!!!

You're Dead...

― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann)

This could have been the Rockist rolling rap thread.

But it wasn't.

uh

http://allpoetry.com/topic/268860339-In_memory_of_Ed_Wagemann

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DO NOT ACCEPT PMs/MYSPACE REQUESTS FROM PAUL EDWARD WAGEMANN. HE HAS A HISTORY OF SENDING EXPLICIT CHILD PORNOGRAPHY TO OTHER MEMBERS.

wtf @ that revive!

aw, it looks like PEW isn't pretending to be dead anymore. for the record, this was his original post:

Ed Wagemann passed away at the age of 43, leaving two young children behind, a boy who was five and a daughter who was 3. I was given the task of going through his personal belongings, some books and photo albums, some clothes. Ed did not have much in the form of material items, what he did have mostly were toys, clothes, stuffed animals, learning tools and board games for his kids. He did leave behind a laptop computer however.

I gathered his belongings, organized them and gave them away to friends and family. It took me weeks to get rid of everything. Everything except his laptop. Initially I tried to get onto his laptop and see what he had there, but I did not have his password. So I left it with a computer doctor and asked him to retrieve any files that he could. That was a few weeks ago. Then last week I get a call from the computer doctor. He transferred many files for me and I began going through them. What I found was nothing short of amazing. Ed had dozens of short stories and a half dozen novels he had written over the last 15 years. Only one of the stories had been published, back in 1997, and it won a Gold Circle award.

So for the last week as I'm reading Ed's amazing body of work I couldn't help but think that this stuff really needs to be shared with the rest of the literary community. Which is why I am here. I will be publishing a number of Ed's stories here over the next few weeks. The first one I published was written in 2002 as far as I can tell. It is called the girl with the crooked teeth. I hope you all enjoy it.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17858881-the-panty-thief-of-bridgeport

The Panty Thief of Bridgeport
by Ed Wagemann (Goodreads Author)
4.14 of 5 stars 7 ratings · 4 reviews

Its springtime in Chicago 1995 and someone has been prowling the working class/southside neighborhood of Bridgeport stealing women's panties. Jack Squat, a 20 something with a mysterious mechanism that is biorythmically integrated into his very spine has been gliding cautiously through his inner city life until he falls in love and has his heart broken by a beautiful ad executive named Samantha. When his 'mechanism' malfunctions at the worst possible time, Jack is forced to engage in a battle against this mysterious biological system of pulleys and levers that dwells within the depths of his own marrow. In the complex emotional game of cat and mouse that ensues it becomes obvious that what is at stake here is not only Jack's sense of self-worth, but his very soul.

Woah

panty phoenix

A discussion started by "Jack," who gave the novel 5 stars:

Is Panty Thief of Bridgeport the first in the new genre of Dick Lit? Or has there been other Dick Lit novels that have come before this one?
If there are other Dick Lit novels, then can you name them???

Eminem, who famously became a wiggah due to never having had a father while growing up,

well now it's been deleted i just sound racist

I'm sure a kindly mod would delete your post if you want

locking this entire thread also not a bad idea imo

deleting this entire thread also not a bad idea

Yeah, just scanning through this and I think a locking is in order. I kind of like being able to look back at trolls of yore so unless there's a big cry for deletion I'll leave it here but locked.