Dave Pajo solo: S/D

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Raymond's dead right to mention 'Krusty' - that's a good song.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Destroy:

Whatever Mortal (save for "Krusty")

Destruction is an unfair fate, surely. It's actually a rather nice album.

(But what the hell do I know? Spiderland bores me to tears.)

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I just liked him when it was all/mostly instrumental. The Papa M Sings ep was nice as a sort of departure, but when Whatever, Mortal came out he lost my respect/interest. His voice isn't terrible, but the lyrics sucked and the music seemed to conform to the vocals.

Slint never did much for me, Paul. Any of it. But then I haven't listened to 'em since the fall of 98 or something like that.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

wedding song#3 7" was great, as was the album from that time. didnt like the papa m stuff, havent heard since

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Live From a Shark Cage is good. It has some predictable moments (e.g. the answering-machine-tape-over-guitar-sounds track) but on the whole it's actually a very beautiful record.

I don't like his singing very much though.

mrjosh (mrjosh), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

search the "Last Caress" cover.

Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know what the fuck Raymond is talking about with the "Whatever Mortal" slam. That album is amazingly good, as is "Live from a Shark Cage." Both are evocative albums that summon to me feelings of isolation, loneliness, and hope. I find them very poignant to listen to, to be honest-- and I rarely feel that with much modern music.

Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree on the "whatever, mortal" love-in. great songwriting. the new one, meh, i know it was some kind of experiment. but i think the songs are stellar, the execution just gives me the mondays.

katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Live from a Shark Cage is extraordinary. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Search:
Papa M Sings

Destroy:

Whatever Mortal

This is exactly backward. Papa M sings is not very good at all, in fact, I think its awful. Whatever Mortal has a lot to recommend it (if you like smog)

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatever Mortal has a lot to recommend it (if you like smog)

What Smog album sounds like "Whatever Mortal"?

Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

none of them specifically but it has the same general tone as, uh, I dunno. mid-period smog (whatever the one with bathysphere was)or palace/oldham stuff from the same time. I group all these things together in my mind.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Pajo has a lot to recommend it (if you like Elliott Smith).

I do. Especially earlier, strummy Elliott with layered breathy vocals, which a few songs on the new Pajo recall.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i stand by that first papa m album quite vigorously

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks everyone. Although what I'm seeing here is very little consensus, and that I'll just have to search it all, right? Curt OTM about the new album's ES sound, which isn't a bad thing. I like the breathy vocals...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

anyone heard his vinyl only acoustic Misfits covers album Scream For Me? i LOVE it.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Yeah Scream For Me is excellent! Why isn't there more talk about it? The tunes translate VERY WELL.

SourPatchCorpse, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

He just posted this on Instagram.

http://instagram.com/p/zDD-AIE_lr/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:26 (nine years ago) link

(Sorry, missed the convo on the Slint thread.)

Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link

i was under the (i guess) mistaken impression that he saw his kids all the time. he posts pictures of them a lot.

this is terrible, i dont know what to say

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link

just read the suicide note

he wrote mentions that he struck her, and then indicts her for "playing the victim" afterwards

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link

wish people would have a tiny bit of class and not keep reposting the link to that - nobody should be reading this shit like it's any normal blog post - i don't care if it was posted publicly - but i guess it's all about the clicks yeah?

jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

i think its about people wanting to hear from someone they admire and love who is hurting

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

idk. i feel bad for reading it and posting about it. i feel really high strung and compulsive and emotional atm

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

I just feel that journos reposting a link to something like that on every news site for it to be discussed and picked apart in the comments i nots going to have any positive effect on what he's going through or what he has to deal with moving forward. yes it was important to know he's now got the people who matter looking out for him in the aftermath, but I'd say the best thing from here on in is to leave it alone and not encourage people to rubberneck

jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

no, i agree. it is gross

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

and also just - i dont want to see that side of anybody that i admire and dont know personally, it doesnt concern me, and i can never unsee it

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link

on an unrelated note, Whatever, Mortal is among the 10 best albums of the 2000s.

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm glad that I've not see anyone opining on this, only people being shocked. the ugly details are certainly a lot to spray out there.

A musician friend-of-friends who I know casually on FB recently went through a breakup and his soon-to-be-ex very publicly shamed him on his newsfeed for everyone he knows to see, and it was super uncomfortable to learn things about someone you don't actually know in depth personally.

akm, Friday, 13 February 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

just read the suicide note

he wrote mentions that he struck her, and then indicts her for "playing the victim" afterwards

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a hell of a takeaway. He sounds legitimately (and rightfully) horrified at having done that, even in his desperate state. Like, a lot of the note is irrational (as might be expected), but the apology for hitting her (for which, I agree, there is no excuse, ever) seemed like the most lucid part. It's weird enough that this thread got bumped for this horrible incident, and weirder still that some of us are speculating about it like it's a PR blast, but trying to demonize the guy, who probably now feels ashamed and humiliated in addition to the pain he describes in his note, seems to me so obviously the exact wrong thing to be doing right now.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i mean, he acted abominably and the suicide note was very manipulative, but he was under an extreme amount of stress when he did these things so it seems hypocritical for me, from my vantage of not being under stress, to stand in judgment.

Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link

maybe it's better for people outside the situation to not take a stand at all

Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

maybe it's better for people outside the situation to not take a stand at all

― Treeship, Friday, February 13, 2015 6:18 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^^

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

good idea. let's talk about Whatever, Mortal, which a deeply moving and evocative album. Almost every song is wonderful, but I would suggest "Roses in the Snow" as a starting point. What an amazing piece of music. The whole album is a wrongly overlooked work of genius. SEEK IT OUT WITH HASTE.

Also, the previous album, Live from a Shark Cage is pretty great too. It's instruments, but among the most poignant and moving guitar-based albums I know of. Try "Arundel" for starters.

Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link

feels good, revisiting this stuff. "over jordan" is another highlight, i like that he revisited "arundel" with Northwest passage.. has a loose, celebratory vibe. Arundel is an excellent track, a lot of the aerial m stuff is nicely affecting.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:11 (nine years ago) link

pajo and doug mccombs (tortoise, brokeback) have a unique sense of tone and atmosphere. their instrumental music provided comfort and relief for me a while back. always nice to hear this stuff again

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:19 (nine years ago) link

I wish i knew more stuff like Whatever, Mortal and Live from a Shark Cage. I remember in the mid-2000s, I took a long trip around rural Asia, and those albums kept me company. They have a homeless, iterant, lonely feel that felt like a perfect soundtrack for my mindstate and my surroundings at the time.

Poliopolice, Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Dave's Lo the Rose Cease to Bloom ( from the three songs mini cd) has brought me comfort many times over the years. Hope he finds some soon.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:09 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbXTTXotN5o

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link

^ one of my favorite recordings ever

Clay, Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

yeah, just about the best sad song I know

walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

New Instagram post

http://Instagram.com/p/zF7tGvk_pr/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 February 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link

realized that i am not certain how to pronounce his surname

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

That new Instagram post is very nice to see.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link

pah-ho

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

also, the line "there was something like a wall between us / that stopped your going down on mah peenus" (from "Sorrow Reigns") has the weird effect of being hilariously unexpected, but increasingly sad within the context of the song.

Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

man, some insanely inventive guitar licks on these albums. they're complex and sound great, but also seem so simple at the same time ("Krusty", for example).

Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

I spent last night trying to learn arundel and road runner from live videos and gained a new appreciation for his playing

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link

Dave lost me a bit after he started singing, but man, PAJO was the business at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2LvGqD_XuE

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link

The lick on Road Runner is remarkable. Seems so simple...

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 03:34 (nine years ago) link

As for tuning, I'll have figure that out... Seems like a lot of open strings

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link

goddamn it... this is really hard

Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

in the meantime... did you know about this Misfits cover album?? WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvbKvtO5mg

Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

I think the tuning is: C F C G C E

Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link

Nope, you were right: C G C G C E. I figured out the riff for the most part; one of the reasons it's so hard is because its hard to remember the sequence of notes!

Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 07:58 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New interview

http://thethinair.net/2015/03/the-road-to-recovery-with-slints-david-pajo/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Good interview, thanks

paolo, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link

Great interview. So glad he's better and so brave of him to talk about the subject.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

https://soundcloud.com/drag-city/papa-m-walking-on-coronado

djh, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

This forthcoming Papa M album will make many people happy.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link

Arundel is so pretty.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 September 2016 02:08 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I got to spend about 45 minutes on the phone with him; it was a joy.

A lot of generational/dad talk stuff got left out for space.

http://clrvynt.com/david-pajo-interview/

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

Nice one!

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

would like to read, but "trend Micro" say website is spam

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 October 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

uplifting read, thanks

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 28 October 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

good stuff! glad dave is doing better.

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 October 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

New video, nice song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLd2PuY9BBs

Eazy, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Live From A Shark Cage is sounding really amazing tonight.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

New one is amazing. Pajo, if you’re listening, I’m glad you’re alive.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link

Same. The Arvo Part cover put a lump in my throat.

alpine static, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

Where is this new one, pray tell?

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 August 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.cameo.com/davidpajo
For $19, you can get a personalized birthday message from Dave Pajo.

ernestp, Thursday, 25 March 2021 02:58 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7wh270Oc9c

^ guitar nerd business with dave <3

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 08:22 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed this!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

yes, he seems like a genuinely nice guy! pleased to see that he seems to be back an even keel now too

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link

What a legend, a resume to die for and just a regular guy despite it all

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link

i spoke with him for a little while outside after a Slint reunion show several years ago, 2014 i think? talked about metal and various other things. very sweet, gracious dude. was really saddened to hear about the mental health crisis he went through not long after.

but yeah, he seems to be in a good place these days! happy for him.

circa1916, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

He's one of those guys (like Matt Sweeney?) that seem to show up all over, which is a testament to their personalties as much as their abilities.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

Speaking of Pajo and Sweeney, there's been a few good writeups lately of that slept on (imho) Zwan album with it being the 20th anniversary. It is apparently still not streaming and, if the rumors I read a long time ago are true, it's because pissbaby Corgan hates these two guys so much that he doesn't want anything to do with it anymore. Which is a shame, because these guys deserve whatever meager money they can get from having to deal with Corgan.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link

zwan were so outrageously good, like the unreleased/live stuff is incredibly special when you have those three guitarists onstage, and it's fucked up that the band only lasted one album and none of that shit ever got a proper release

anyway, it's possible corgan may be being a pissbaby about it but i assume that since no one knows when the machina reissue is coming out that putting mary star of the sea on streaming is extremely on the backburner (and fwiw zeitgeist is not on streaming either)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, you aren't wrong, I've just been freshly annoyed by how awful Corgan handled the fracture of Zwan, he was such a dick about it. No doubt Zwan is the last thing on his mind, but I just would love to see Paz, Pajo and Sweeney get some more cash and recognition for the record.

Yeah, the three times I saw them were fantastic. Never saw the Djali Zwan acoustic configuration, but used to have a bunch of boots. Thought they were much better as a full blown electric rock band anyway. Seeing them and Dead Meadow at the Metro was a killer show.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

all i've heard is the Hole of Burning Alms comp, but it is quite fantastic. i believe its a comp of various singles and such.

Quoting myself from 18(!) years ago since I pulled this out for the first time in ages last night. Still fantastic!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 21:42 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQ-o99RZvM

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 10:54 (one week ago) link

Love this man

H.P, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:48 (one week ago) link

xpost Ooh I am intrigued by this Children's Hour album. Never heard of them, but a previously unreleased album with Pajo in the lineup will almost always pique my interest.

Ubiquitor, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:54 (one week ago) link

Disagree with the hate upthread for the numbered EP's, though I do find some of them a little uneven. Also, his singing voice is pretty off putting if you're not into the vulnerable singer/songwriter thing.

But his guitar tone on some of those songs is white hot and clean as hell.

Search:

"Lovely Room"
"Truckstop Girl"
"Local Boy Makes Good"

Ubiquitor, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:57 (one week ago) link

I had a really naive take wayyyyy upthread and I would like to admit David released some amazing singer/songwriter solo material that wasn't just dubby postrock.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 02:57 (one week ago) link

I love his Misfits covers record which answers the musical question "What if Nick Drake had written "Angelfuck"?"

https://papam.bandcamp.com/album/scream-with-me

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 13:31 (one week ago) link

Children's Hour with Josephine Foster? That's good stuff.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 13:51 (one week ago) link

i love this song so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QDFnAeXB6U

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:43 (two days ago) link


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