― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― darren (darren), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Snowbug for tunes Hawaii for soundscapesCold & Bouncy for a compromise
The only song from Buzzle Bee that caught my attention was New Broadway. The rest of the catalog I skipped for whatever reason (sans Santa Barbra, which isn't really relevant to this thread)
Let us know if a year from now you think this stuff hold up...
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not going to take sides. I'll say the Beachwood Sparks are dud though.. haha.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Saxon Holt, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
If anything, I found the Beach Boys comparisons for all those bands not only highly innacurate and inappropriate, but insulting to the Beach Boys, and, what's more, struck me as opinions based upon a very narrow exposure to the Beach Boys' music. I have never heard a single E6 song that really sounds anything like the Beach Boys, with the possible exception of OTC's first single off "Black Foliage", which was terrible. (and fwiw I am certain I was not the only person deeply into the Beach Boys stuff prior to the mid-90s "revival" hoohah).
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Brian wrote melodies that stick, and respected the idea that short pop song structures maintain the listener's interest more often than not.
I discovered non-hit Beach Boys when a copy of Endless Summer was dumped on me in 1987, which was well before the indie-rediscovery of them. Let Him Run Wild still floors me. Near tears each listen.
Shakey Mo Collier hit it OTM upthread:
[[[Really all O'Hagen does is ape a very, very narrow slice of the Beach Boys' bizarrely varied ouevre (specifically "Let's Get Away for Awhile" and the like), stick some vintage synth blippy-bloopy sounds over it, and repeat ad nauseam for 50-minutes. There is way WAY more to the Beach Boys than just tropical-vacation orchestral 60s pop...]]]
Some like blippy-bloppy sounds though; I do to some degree. No hatred over that. But I see more depth and layers in the Beach Boys catalog.
New Thread: Endless Sumner...
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I won't bother arguing that Wilson is overall a better orchestrator and, more importantly, melodically inventive composer than O'Hagen. Certainly his songs are fucking catchier.
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― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
For the most Beach Boyish E6 song, check out "Marking Time" on Dusk at Cubist Castle. It's a great, great song, and sounds like a facsimile of Smiley Smile Beach Boys.
― Saxon Holt, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
A lofty goal! And I think, for the most part, one that was successful.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I have nothing much against High Llamas, but O'Hagan is no match to Beach Boys
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 5 May 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
O'Hagan was approached by "Brian's people" to do some stuff for the Beach Boys in the mid-'90s. He went to LA; first thing he saw was Mike Love bearing down on him asking if it were true that all Englishmen were "faggots." Exit O'Hagan stage left quicksnap.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― debden, Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
This is important!
I have never heard the High Llamas though, although I am a very big fan of Microdisney. So he gets pretty much carte blance from me.
― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), May 5th, 2005.
!?HUH?!
I never heard that about Mike Love. I guess there's more reasons to dislike him.
― 99 der leuft balloonnnss, Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
-- 99 der leuft balloonnnss (dododod...), May 5th, 2005. (later)
Yes, told in a 1997 Uncut feature w/ Brian on the cover. We have Sean O'Hagen's squeamishness to thank (in part) for never getting one last record out of them. I mean, as a huge fan of the Beach Boys, it must have come as a great shock to him to learn that Mike Love was actually a jerk.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
There are a few cases of him managing to write good songs. They are called "Checking In, Checking Out" and "Giddy And Gay", both brilliant songs.
But generally, you are kind of right.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 May 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Love the High Llamas. Sean O'Hagan is a wizard. The more of his (and Cathal Coughlan's) songs I chord out and present on a website I've been building - COUGHLANOHAGAN.COM - the more I see just how great O'Hagan was and remains (as well as his songwriting partner from Microdisney, Coughlan).
― weirwrite, Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:43 (three years ago) link
I've loved O'Hagan's music for a long, long time. In fact, it was one of two reasons why I launched a website around his music https://coughlanohagan.com/.
― weirwrite, Saturday, 23 May 2020 06:46 (three years ago) link
knobhead
― thomasintrouble, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link