Can We Have a "Where Is the Love" Thread for STARCASTLE, Too?

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Right, nothing touches "All Good People" or "Roundabout" on this album. But it's close!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Who's heard the second Starcastle album? I'd like to check that out sometime. The first one's good, but I've never been able to handle it with any type of regularity. It's almost creepy to me how much it sounds like Yes (not a bad thing, mind).

It's hard to compare Yes and Starcastle because Yes has "Close to the Edge," "Sound Chaser," "Tempus Fugit," "Starship Trooper," and on and on and on, whereas Starcastle's accomplishment seemed to be that, though none of their songs match the stellar heights of Yes's (not that many other band's ever do), they could recall the Yes experience in a general way, in sort of a surrogate way, allowing the listener taking a break from Yes, maybe so as not to burn out on them, nevertheless to approximate the Yes high. As the liner notes of their debut album have it: "Starcastle decided to realize their original dream without compromise. A totally disciplined lifestyle served as the foundation for their music, which yielded multiple voicing, counterpoint, countermelodies, and a decidedly refreshing approach to what could have been routine instrumentation." "Without compromise" seems to be limited to 'sounding like Yes,' as does "refreshing," whereas Yes were just completely nuts, actually without compromise up through Topographic Oceans.

#1 100% ILM Asshole, Friday, 11 March 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Again, not a Yes expert, but I'm really interested in the way they were seemingly so accurate with the Yes thing, even down to guitar tones? I notice in the pictures on their web site that the bass player played a Rickenbacher.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

bass player played a Rickenbacher

That's critical. Gotta have a very bright, growling bass tone. Guitar -wise, semi-hollow (Peter Banks used a Gibson ES, Howe used a similarly big sounding guitar) into a very loud, chunky but fairly clean-sounding amp. Banks used Hiwatts. I thought Howe was a Fender Twin user but I might be mistaken, hmmm-hmmm.

In Starcastle, I never thought Luttrell sounded much like Jon Anderson.

George Smith, Friday, 11 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim, if you like Starcastle, and haven't heard all that much Yes, you should check out The Yes Album sometime. Not saying you'll like it as much as Starcastle, but there's definitely enough overlap you'd find something there for you.

#1 100% ILM Asshole, Friday, 11 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the only one I have, actually. I like that album.

Some pictures here. Gibsons in the photos from the Fountains of Light tour. Fenders, though, too, in the Live 1977 pictures. As for guitar amps, you can at least see one Marshall in the Live '77 photos.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

I recently found Fountains of Light and Reel to Real at a shop. the owner of the place was amused that anyone would pick them out, he told me about a Starcastle show he attended where this big lit up star slowly descended throughout the set. problem being it was only 3 feet tall. like something straight out of Spinal Tap

Fountains is actually a pretty solid album. Probably even better than the debut. I love all the slot machine sounds and "Portraits" is a real gem. You'd think a couple of these songs could've gotten some radio play. Every song outside of the 10-minute title track is written like a single. Reel to Real on the other hand is pretty bad, they just gave up on trying to be prog at all and instead just focused on being a real shitty version of Styx. It has one of the worst/most hilarious album covers though. It is one of those covers where you know the album itself cannot possibly be any good.

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

I found another great Starcastle track. "Change in Time"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAaLSExwJSQ

frogbs, Saturday, 15 January 2022 04:56 (two years ago) link


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