third eye blind -- classic or dud

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CLASSIC! I decided! They have a new album out, wtf? I have seen nothing of this until I was standing in the shop today and happened upon it in the listening section.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

you SO should buy the Good Charlotte album now. They rip off 3EB constantly but totally improve the formula.

"Losing A Whole Year" is really great.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

they steal the climax of "Semi-Charmed Life" on the awesome power ballad "Say Anything." Instead of saying goodbye goodbyee gooodbyeeee GOODBYE the GC boys are falling down down DOOOOOOOWWWWN!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure Third Eye Blind has had the longevity or social or stylistic impact to warrant a classic/dud yet...
-- JM (jimmythemo...), January 16th, 2001.

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, comparing GOod Charlotte to 3EB is ludicrious, I've heard at least half of the GC album and unless the other half is the one that sounds like 3EB, then they don't do anything like 3EB.

Losing a Whole Year and Deep Inside Of You are their best songs.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

people said crap like that back in the day? TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

Sure have! Now they're even more dud than ever. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"Say Anything" definitely does. "Hold On" too.

How is the new 3EB album? I haven't heard anything off it. Didn't Fred Durst play guitar on a track or two?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Anthony do you know everything about Fred Durst? I haven't listened to the new album yet but it sounded good frm the store snippets.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I am Fred Durst. Anthony Miccio is my screen name.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned you're the second most passive aggressive poster on this board, it's bizarre.

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

who's the most passive agressive ILXor?

3eb still sux, tho'.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't actively listen to that album or anything but it's really all right, pleasant if you don't ask too much. (I'm pretty sure I just started this thread because I thought they get more crap than they deserve.) "Deep Inside of You" is nice, I agree. It came on at one of the Toronto FAPs and I enjoyed it. It is a fairly diverse album, one reason why I rate it a lot higher than the first Weezer, say.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

goddamn, is everyone determined to make me count to ten?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

do you like Creed, too, anthony?

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

THE FIRST WEEZER IS THE BEST ALBUM EVER, SUNDAR, WTF???

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

For some reason you just convinced me to give it another chance by using caps lock and multiple question marks.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't mind people not liking Weezer. If Alex in NYC declared "Weezer is but a stray piece of fecal matter clinging to a hair on Jaz Coleman's ass" I'd be cool with it. I just hate when someone goes on about how some band is sorta alright fine don't care and then says "better than Weezer, though."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Tad, I'm no Creed fan, though I like "With Arms Wide Open" and parts of "My Sacrifice."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew that'd do the trick, Sundar. We are of similar mind.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 22 June 2003 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit, I just saw Ned's post on the Nada Surf thread now. Sorry. (Still, proof that Ally must have had me in mind as most passive-aggressive poster.)

I'm almost done Weezer (mostly as I remembered - I still love "Holiday", like "In the Garage", don't mind a couple others, but don't get most of it). I'll get back when I've listened to Blue again.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, the ending of "Only in Dreams" is pretty nice actually. . .

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The new single contains these lyrics.

"And I see you fogging up the mirror
Vapor round your body glistens in the shower
And I want to stay right here and go down on you for an hour"

Thats ok with me.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it'd be classic if the next line was sung in a muffled voice.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha Sundar, you are so far from the most passive-aggressive ILXor! You need to try way harder and stop being polite and Canadian.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

who is it then?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
REVIVE-O!

In perusing through antiquated ILM threads (hey, gimme a break, it's 6:20 am and I've been up for a bajillion hours), 3EB is a band I seem to fluctuate between liking, tolerating, actually quite enjoying and abjectly loathing. Sure, Jenkins is a shameless Ass Shogun and that whole business about portraying the Kinks? Oh do verily kid me not. But as I sit here in my office, blasting "Losing A Whole Year" out of my computer l can't help but think they definetely had something. There are several damn respectable tracks on that first record. The second record? Ehhh....not so much, and let's not even mention the third record (actually, can anyone even remember the title?) I compared them to Maroon 5 not too long ago, but I'm pretty sure Maroon 5 have yet to write a botched relationship song as on-the-money as "How's it Gonna Be?" or the afore-mentioned "Losing a Whole Year".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 September 2004 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember i chose "how's it gonna be" to be the first song on the the first ilm "listening chamber", and all i got was HATERZ. i didn't put it there out of any particular love for the song (i think it's okay btw, rather pretty even), i just wanted to see how ilx'd react to some pretty standard alt. rock, because at the time it seemed like something of a whipping genre. we didn't have a miccio then.

i *do* miss radio rock bands having shiny hooks instead of whiny sludge. all we've got in that dept today is, well, maroon 5 (who i don't have the energy to feel one way or another about) and the occasional linkin park single. the good charlottes and all of them don't seem to be trying as hard in the post-blink 182 era. actually, i've changed my mind. i don't really care at all.

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link

well they're less nauseating than matchbox 20! at least they have that going for them.
-- latebloomer, September 25th, 2004

{resets bar, low. replaces blood-encrusted handkerchief over wheelchair-bound man's face. brief tableaux. exeunt.}

DUD! There was actually a lively debate about how terrible 3EB were on the pavement list once. Whatever happened to the 3EB/Eddie Vedder rivalry that was playing out on VH1? FWIW, what happened to Pearl Jam?

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not really a fan, but "Semi-Charmed Life" was a deservedly monstrous hit, and has a place in my heart for being of the misleadingly-catchy-melodies- masking-desperately-misanthropic-lyrics school of songwriting. Any band that can get lyrics like "She comes 'round and she goes down on me" and "Those little red panties, they pass the test" on the radio is OK by me.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Dudududududud. It contains just about everything you really can't like about music. And worst of all, it's so damn catchy that you can't really tell if you're singing along ironically or liking it for real.

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm talking about Semi-Charmed Life of course. Jesus... there are two Third Eye Blind threads on the internet at the same time?

strom (strom), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, those lyrics seem pretty tame to me.

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(Sorry.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Play nice, Ned. (Also, when are you coming to Toronto?)

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

If I can swing it, Veteran's Day weekend. But that's not a guarantee by any means.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

They are, but they're kinda subsersive in the context of the song (which is essentially an ode to being strung out on crystal meth).

-- Tantrum The Cat, September 25th, 2004.

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

no low spark for me.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I just wrote and erased a long bile-filled post about "How's It Gonna Be?" and how anybody who defends that track deserves to be blah-blah-blah.

Clearly it's opposite day.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

especially when the song fashions itself as either a judgement or a self-aggrandizing "it-could-have-been-me" ode, which makes it UberDud. it's like an Ur text for duds. of course, it's also the gist of the American remake of Traffic.

I never thought the song was particularly judgemental either way. I haven't seen either version of Traffic so I can't comment on that.

Also:

SEX AND DRUGS ON THE RADIO OMG WTF

It's too bad there's already TV On The Radio (who are awesome), because Sex And Drugs On The Radio is a face-rockingly good band name.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 September 2004 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

At first I thought he meant Steve Winwood's old band Traffic.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

At first I thought he meant Steve Winwood's old band Traffic.
-- sundar subramanian, September 25th, 2004

don't give steven s0d3rb3rgh any "new" ideas!

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
"jumper" is a great little oasis song!

cindy williams permafrost (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

The song "Graduate" off of their debut is fulla hooks.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I love "How's It Gonna Be" and "Can't Let You Go" and can't work myself into a lather about everything else (and I doubt anyone else does either).

Jim Derogatis' interview/dis of Stephen Jenkins is one of the meanest, most self-serving pieces of journalism I've read in recent years.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Semi-Charmed Life, Never Let You Go, Jumper, How's it Gonna Be: CLASSIC. Graduate is pretty good too. I don't remember the rest.

sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I picked up their album while it was new and completely loved it. For a week, anyway....

(dud....)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Six years or so removed from a time when I actually loved Third Eye Blind and listened to them daily, I took a listen to Blue (second album) today. And I can't really find anything I don't like about it....it's quite good. Someone above mentioned how it's hard not to get caught up in the visceral (albeit entirely tame) production values, singing, and playing. Completely OTM.

Not classic.......but still seems to hit me on a level most rock music fails to reach.

PB, Sunday, 29 May 2005 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

dont they have a new album coming out?
always had a spot for them

Kevin Keller, Thursday, 13 November 2008 07:03 (eleven years ago) link

and the way the guitars on this record have a constant psychedelic bleed. i think there’s a sitar on “camouflage” but it’s hard to tell bc every guitar sounds like a distant ripple of itself. oh wait i just literally heard it for the first time in my entire life. it’s in the bridge!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:06 (one year ago) link

in the geometry of
prism of my eye will flow

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:08 (one year ago) link

you said,
“you are of the earth,
i am of the sky”
i don’t even know what the hell that means

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:11 (one year ago) link

it’s so beautifully packaged and contains such outright ugliness? “slow motion,” for one, a shimmer of a piano ballad about a school shooter. there’s so much earnest feeling burning beneath these grand yet self-conscious gestures as empty as panes of glass. i assume jenkins loves irony especially if i’m right and irony is just rerouted earnestness

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:18 (one year ago) link

anyway i’m way too high and i’m gonna go to bed now goodnight

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:19 (one year ago) link

I reviewed that album a few centuries ago. I was a fan of the singles that preceded it.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 November 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

I also like the album Blue by Third Eye Blind.

Sam Weller, Monday, 26 November 2018 13:55 (one year ago) link

brad excellent high posting

Spottie, Thursday, 29 November 2018 00:31 (one year ago) link

“shipboard cook” is one of their very best songs

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 22:52 (one year ago) link

its so good, kinda follows the motorcycle driveby structure. dopamine is really great overall.

Celtoes Adidas (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 17:04 (one year ago) link

> with him there is always the illusion of depth that contains actual depth, it’s very frustrating

Baby daddies keep your boo
Many blessings come to you
Baby daddy keep your boo

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 03:33 (one year ago) link

> “wounded” is song by someone who’s kind of an asshole but who also has boundless empathy

OTM. Having only listened to the singles (and only really loving "Never Let You Go" -- see Sterling Clover otm upthread), I've spent a lot of time w/ this album the past few days. Much as I didn't want to like "Wounded" or "Ten Days Late", both are huge and impossible to get out of my head.

If "Wounded" didn't include the line about touching a person who'd (apparently) been beaten, would he still come off as kind of an asshole? Are the perspective shifts in "Ten Days Late" done on purpose or did Jenkins need an editor to be like, "y'know, this doesn't agree with that" and "this line could be misinterpreted". I'll say this, though -- he really knows how to sing *his* lyrics. Not sure he could do as much with anyone else's though.

Also, love the "We were broke and didn't know it" chant in "Deep Inside of You". Reminded me of the street chorus in Red House Painters' "Strawberry Hill".

This album definitely sounds like late-90s money. Side one in particular. Would never have listened to it, so, thanks for getting high and posting about it.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 14 December 2018 06:05 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNH9dTsl-WY

AAAAAHHHHHH

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:14 (one year ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:15 (one year ago) link

needless to say... i'll be there

marcos smart (Spottie), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:48 (one year ago) link

i may go to two of these (boston and jones beach)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

im not sure if 3EB can top the self titled anniversary show for me tho.

marcos smart (Spottie), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:57 (one year ago) link

me neither that was very special

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:00 (one year ago) link

i went alone and im glad i did tbh.

marcos smart (Spottie), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:18 (one year ago) link

hm, actually i'm gonna end up seeing them in nashville with someone who recently dumped me!!!!! as the emo gods intended

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:32 (one year ago) link

hah nice.

marcos smart (Spottie), Friday, 25 January 2019 21:41 (one year ago) link

CRAWL
UP
THE BEDPOST

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 22:28 (one year ago) link

the summer gods live record they put out a few years ago has a kind of perverse tracklisting; it was taken from one of the s/t anniversary shows but omits songs from the album sequence that were the real highlights of the show ("graduate," "thanks a lot," "the background"). but it's still doing a really good job of reminding me how wonderful that show was (the coda of "good for you"!)

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 January 2019 20:53 (one year ago) link

i never checked that record out. just listened to good for you. good stuff.

marcos smart (Spottie), Monday, 28 January 2019 22:18 (one year ago) link

i didn't spend any time with the covers ep last year but this is a wonderful version of this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WT45aut_m4

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:53 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

new song out with alexis krauss from sleigh bells, new album in october

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk4gCI8kh7k

show i just saw in nashville was the best third eye blind show i’ve ever seen

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 04:27 (eleven months ago) link

interesting, are they getting better with age somehow?

big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:52 (eleven months ago) link

kinda feel like the “new” members are finally completely comfortable with the material, approx 10 years after joining the band. taking back sunday have experienced an almost identical upgrade in live performance over the past three years

apparently... billy corgan is on the new record?

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:34 (eleven months ago) link

Corgan is their "musical consigliere".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:23 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9krdFaC1WE

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 14:12 (eight months ago) link

i love the new album even though there is an ill-advised trap song on it

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 14:58 (eight months ago) link

“tropic scorpio” an instant classic

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:03 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bUrlwtbT68

a perfect third eye blind song

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 11:51 (eight months ago) link

yeah that seems like the standout after one listen through.

lol @ 2XTigers

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:47 (eight months ago) link

i also really love "got so high" and "turn me on" and despite/because of the goofy-ass lyrics, "ways"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:49 (eight months ago) link

tropic scorpio through light it up is a good run

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:03 (eight months ago) link

this is better than expected.

DT, Friday, 18 October 2019 23:52 (eight months ago) link

eight months pass...

A masterpiece.

I’m not pandering, I’m just aware of my sources.

Music is foundational to my life. Though I am infused with Joy Division and Bon Iver and such, the headwaters of the music that flows through me, all of it, finds its source in Black brilliance.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2020 23:03 (one week ago) link

lol hoo boy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2020 23:08 (one week ago) link


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