That said, it is his best album.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:49 (twenty years ago) link
― gallantseagull, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 05:39 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 05:42 (twenty years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 05:47 (twenty years ago) link
anyway, it's probably a money-issue. i don't know what's gotten into old neil, but for attending his solo-gigs earlier this month in the Netherlands you were expected to put down €80-90! ridiculous.
― willem (willem), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 06:41 (twenty years ago) link
willem's right about his ticket prices at the moment. £45 for a solo gig at Hammersmith Apollo is too much for me. Even more outrageous given he doesn't have a band to pay.
― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 07:17 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 08:56 (twenty years ago) link
Get outta here, T-Bone's fuggin' genius - the only rock dinosaur who'd have the balls to put out a nine minute track, the only lyrics of which are "Got mashed potato/ ain't got no t-bone" is Lou Reed. In rock music it helps to be moronic every so often.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:01 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:02 (twenty years ago) link
I can't believe these records were never on CD and 'Long May You Run' and 'Old Ways' were...
..and I'm glad that On the Beach doesn't have bonus tracks. Wouldn't want to ruin it.
REac.tor - What a great record.. Not enough people appreciated it. I get Rapid Transit stuck in my head all the time.
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link
Tonight's the Night & Zuma meets Harvest with a more acoustic blues-feel...
(probably not very useful...)
― willem (willem), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:04 (twenty years ago) link
I don't think it's very comparable to any of his other records. Yeah, it always gets lumped in with others as part of his "Dark Period", but a song like "Revolution Blues" is probably one of the most st8 ahead rock tracks he ever did and the title track is a prototype for Slint's Spiderland (or, keeping with NY's own work, "Like A Hurricane" and "Cortez the Killer", only more subtle). There's three different batches of songs, done with three different producers/line-ups, so it doesn't really have a same-y feeling throughout that would let you compare it to the other albums.
Ah, what the Hell, I'll just say it's a more rockin' Tonight's The Night, for argument's sake.
― Vic Funk, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
― James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
Out on the Weekend, Old Man, Journey Thru the Past, Heart of Gold, Don't Let it Bring You Down, A Man Needs a Maid, Love in Mind, See the Girl Dance
Also, "See the Sky About to Rain" and "On the Beach" are probably my two favorite Neil Young tracks (with "Though my problems are meaningless/That don't make them go away," being my fave NY lyric).
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
― blutroniq (blutroniq), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
While this album does have "Like a Hurricane," it also features some pretty goofy filler, like "Homegrown" and "Bite the Bullet."
My favorite OtB track is, hands down, "For the Turnstiles."
― Brandon Gentry (Brandon Gentry), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:21 (twenty years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link
― mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
― blutroniq (blutroniq), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link
Is Everybody's Rockin' actually on CD? And come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen Life or Landing on Water on CD either, but I could be wrong...
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Brandon Gentry (Brandon Gentry), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:48 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
I wonder if Neil saw this site? Some of the petition entries are great. Haha - I just randomly clicked on February 2002 and saw that I had signed it. I don't remember doing that, I was probably drunk.
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link
old ways isn't completely terrible, but it IS completely mediocre. you'll play it for a couple days out of curiosity and then never, ever see the need to play it again. it's not one of neil's top five country-ish records, that's for sure.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
Life is marred but the songs are getting better on that one, then he pulls out the greatest off key singing for Prisoners of Rock n Roll.
Landing on Water is more like a poor 80s Bowie record then a Neil record.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:25 (twenty years ago) link
Mirror Ball (sold in disgust)
Life (had it on tape but gave it away to a curious newbie)
Landing on Water (and have only ever heard side one)
Time Fades Away (which I gave to my uncle as a xmas present because he seems to think it's the rarest record ever and he's a big fan. I can get it if I want it and he certainly wanted it more than I did, though it is a great record).
Broken Arrow (sold when strapped for cash - taped "Music Arcade" first)
I do own "Everybody's Rockin', but for the life of me I have no recollection of acquiring it at any point. I have and love all the rest in varying degrees, except "This Notes For You," which is without merit. Anyone want a copy of it on cassette?
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:54 (twenty years ago) link
1983 Trans - no review necessary. You either love it or hate it. I love it.
1983 Everybody's Rockin' .. Haven't heard it since 1984 .. but I liked it at the time. It's not "On the Beach" - but it's not bad ... 1985 Old Ways - Only listened to it once or twice .. never sparked much interest. 1986 Landing on Water - totally forgotten. 1987 Life - forgettable - Inca Queen was alright - the songs didn't seem that great, the production definitely wasn't. (Remember Eric Clapton's "Behind the Sun"?) 1988 This Note's for You - I remember thinking "Neil's Back" when I heard this in '88 - haven't heard it since. 1989 Freedom - Neil's truly back. 1989 Eldorado -? 1990 Ragged Glory - the crazy horse harmonies get on my nerves on this one .. but the songs are solid 1992 Harvest Moon - Great record that gets less great with age. 1994 Sleeps With Angels - gave up on new Neil records... 1995 Mirror Ball - "" "" 1996 Dead Man - No vocals, so a totally different animal. 1996 Broken Arrow - listened to once. Should I drag it out again? 2002 Are You Passionate? - haven't heard it except for streaming audio.
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:54 (twenty years ago) link
not to mention the brand new one, Summer Sun. (or was that a Yo La Tengo record? i can't remember.)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
I didn't like what I heard on Silver & Gold, way too slow. And I haven't heard anything off Are You Passionate. But After revisiting Broken Arrow I'd like to hear it.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
― 4mateurist (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 18:48 (twenty years ago) link
I think always explains why Neil can pull such mind-blowing boners when writing lyrics too (like say 90% of the last ten yrs) cuz yeah I think he really is tapping into his subconscious and I can imagine when yr writing you might think "man that line is really banal & clunky but, hey it worked in the 70s!"
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
I don't trust a lyricist who never produces eye-wateringly bad lyrics every now and again tbh.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
For real, you gotta swing for the fences
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
I read an interview around '90-'91 or so where he was asked about the lyrics to "I Am A Child."
"'What is the color when black is burned'? I don't even know what that means. It's...like a dark grey, I guess?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
lol
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
I first heard On the Beach my first time in Los Angeles in August 1999. I was out there for my friends’ wedding and after the rehearsal dinner I got extremely drunk then later stoned back in the hotel room where a friend had a bootleg copy on a burned CD. Maybe it was the circumstances, but it had a haunting, profound effect on me, at least the first side did. The second side didn’t have the same impact.
A few years later I found my own bootleg CD with TFA on it as well. It was only after years of listening to it did I realize the second half is the heart of the album.
― Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
oh yeah absolutely. lots of examples on this album, but the best is obviously from tired eyes
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link
lol Tarfumes I too distinctly remember that, p sure it was in a Spin profile (by Jimmy McDonough, iirc?) He asked him about a bunch of different lyrics.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
Yep, I think that's the one. iirc, in that same interview, Neil said of his artistic comeback, "It's a good thing I didn't get hit by a bus right after Old Ways came out."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Which ... is not on this album― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 19:38 (yesterday) Permalink
lots of examples on this album, but the best [is not on this album but] is obviously from tired eyes
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
can I praise David Crosby for his electric rhythm work on "Revolution Blues"?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
Entirely by accident I ended up listening to this album earlier this evening. Yes to praising David Crosby's rhy gtr on "Revolution Blues"! But even more praise for the bass playing, listening to which I found myself thinking, "Is that Rick Danko?" And sure enough, it's Rick Danko!
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link
ilx is a #croz positive space
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:30 (five years ago) link
crozitivity
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 09:25 (five years ago) link
Rhythm guitar not the guitar solo. He was always a good rhythm guitarist.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 09:42 (five years ago) link
yeah, i got that - the solo is obviously neil, i was just taken aback that croz is playing the hairy rhythm guitar
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link
pretty sure Crosby plays rhythm on "Cowboy Movie" which is nice gnarly & chunky
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link
neil has an endless number of lyrics that are sort of banal but also somehow incredibly moving and deep and full of meaning to me
these are all the best lyrics imo
― ogmor, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:03 (five years ago) link
It can change you in the middle of the day
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 11:08 (five years ago) link
I think the main rhythm guitar figure in Revolution Blues, the spidery, scratchy one, is still Neil. There's another, muddier one behind it that's probably Croz playing chords. If you listen, the main rhythm guitar drops out right before the solo. There's even a little pause where Neil sounds like he's just taking a second to stomp on his pedal. Either way, not knocking Crosby, but I suspect all the more noticeable guitaring is Neil.
― wump, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
i feel like #Croz - If I Could Only Remember My Name is the sister album to On the Beach (at least in my mind)
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
totally
― sleeve, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
I'm a vampire baaabe
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
the sleazy dragging lethargy of vampire blues is so great, like the whole band is fighting its way through tar from start to finish amazing anti-guitar-solo too
― there’s gonna be a hot time in the ol’ tub machine tonight (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
He's one of those rockers of that generation who tried mightily to avoid 12-bar blues, so when he succumbs it's kinda cool.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
would love to hear just raw session tape from On The Beach. crazy that neil has only played "motion pictures" live once! maybe he'll dig it out in boston tonight.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
Maybe this is in "Shakey", I can't remember, but is Neil having CROZ playing on Revolution Blues some kind weird twisting the knife cuz weren't CROZ & Stills (and probably half the rock stars in Topanga Canyon circa '69) convinced that they were on the Manson Family hitlist?
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
I don't know what the fuck about "Revolution Blues" apparently scared Crosby to death – might be coke paranoia.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
yeah i think stills and croz went out and bought shotguns or something after the manson killings.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
xpost I imagine this line
"Well, I hear that Laurel Canyonis full of famous stars,But I hate them worse than lepersand I'll kill themin their cars."
wasn't CROZ's fave
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
ask him on Twitter
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
If he just blocks me does that mean he really was scared?
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
David Crosby = worst Byrd
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
In contrast, didn't Neil say Manson was kind of an OK guy?
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
(xp) Have you heard those songs Skip Battin wrote with Kim Fowley?
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:23 AM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think crosby was tight w/terry melcher, and obv neil had hung w/manson and dennis wilson...
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link
Crosby's father was an award winning cinematographer, their family was very much in the film industry, which was one of the Manson cult's big targets. he straddled the line -- like many artists -- between old money and youthful revolutionary. pretty understandable that he would be scared when people are being brutally murdered.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 19:51 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Crosby
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
Was just listening to the title track and although the ramble of it, the repetition, would probably make Auden blush, it did make me think of sections of the Age of Anxiety:
... The fears we knowAre of not knowing. Will nightfall bring usSome awful order - Keep a hardware store In a small town... Teach science for life to Progressive girls -? It is getting late. Shall we ever be asked for? Are we simply Not wanted at all?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link