― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 24 February 2003 05:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 24 February 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 February 2003 06:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Fischer, Monday, 24 February 2003 07:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 24 February 2003 11:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 24 February 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 24 February 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rex jr., Monday, 24 February 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
no.
I used to listen to a lot of death metal but even that wasn't so extreme,[...]
then you need to listen to gorguts' _obscura_, goddamit.
as an aside, this marks the fifth time today i've seen someone say that"(x free jazz album) is MORE INTENSE than (whatever metal they listened to in high school)."
― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 24 February 2003 11:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zemko (bob), Monday, 24 February 2003 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Monday, 24 February 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack batterypack (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 24 February 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 24 February 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
i really like dark stuff, though. cave's murder ballads leaps to mind as does most stuff by johnny dowd. johnny cash and other practicioners of the classic american lyrical style have the murder ballad thing doen, too.
a good thread might be top 100 murder ballads.
― jq higgins, Monday, 24 February 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin (robin), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rommel Cox, Monday, 24 February 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Monday, 24 February 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
But for dark/difficult, I'd say J. S. Bach. It drove Glenn Gould near insane.
Of guitar bands, I once had a tune on a mix-tape I'd been given called 'Wild Couple' that was extremely noisy and enraged. (I'd appreciate knowing who the band was if someone knows. I remember the recurring line 'Don't they make a wild couple!' It may be a band familiar to indie kids .. the rest of the mixtape was stuff like Sonic Youth, Lou Barlow, Pavement, Palace Bros.)
― mick hall, Monday, 24 February 2003 16:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Another good really "dark" Wu Tang-affiliated album is the Ghost Dog soundtrack.)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― duane, Monday, 24 February 2003 21:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
as an aside, this marks the fifth time today i've seen someone say that"(x free jazz album) is MORE INTENSE than (whatever metal they listened to in high school)."''
hahaha!!!
yeah...there's not too much that's hard abt good ol' heavy metal (doesn't mean its bad or anything but a lot of heavy metal is sold on the 'its so hard' but there I am being bored by it all) but some free jazz stuff can really split heads and they were prob not even trying to do 'be hard' or any of that crap. oh, the ironing.
I don't think a lot of music that could be classified as 'hard' is 'hard'. its not abt difficulty in listening or anything. a lot of music presents a challenge and i try to engage with it and even if it appears unlistenable on the surface isn't really.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― duane, Monday, 24 February 2003 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― duane, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Dark (in the heavy by borderline goofy way): Sleep, SLEEP'S HOLY MOUNTAIN; JERUSALEM
Dark (in the reflecting the tormented human soul) Johnny Cash, take yer pick
― jodi shapiro (burun), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― michael wells (michael w.), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jodi shapiro (burun), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― duane, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
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― jodi shapiro (burun), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Actually the most intense thing about it was probably that it made me annoyed counting out time signatures the whole time.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 02:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
---Oh, i also get into a bit of George Crumb's work; it's like descending into hell -- try that you nihilistic bastards.
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 01:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
The thrashier, more melodic end of Death Metal - Carcass, Death, Entombed etc
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 18 September 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
slipknot
― ☞ ☹ (markers), Saturday, 18 September 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Though I do own Scum by Napalm Death. That's pretty fucking unpleasant sounding.
this is the cuetest thread i ever did start
― del griffith, Saturday, 18 September 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
slipknot― ☞ ☹ (markers)
― ☞ ☹ (markers)
lol @ u
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Napalm Death is totally mainstream now. I go to houses where people have a lot of money and they have expensive tattoos and Napalm Death on their shelf like a fashion accessory! Totally goes with wine now.
That's why I started buying records by retarded children and the like, we need to find new levels of discomfort!
― The Rich Man's 8-Track (u s steel), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i39.tinypic.com/24g7rm0.jpg
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ u― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor)
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor)
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/de-jayca/avril-lavigne-101-n21396.jpg
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
all markers teenage faves are coming out now
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Avril's great
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
current 93 stuff always seems like crazy dark like i can't even listen to it but i like it in theory
― rawkan the chief (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Current 93 they don't really have talent just great ideas, major turnoff for people who think they know what talent is.
― The Rich Man's 8-Track (u s steel), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont listen to hard or dark music
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
There is plenty of dark / hard funk and r + b. "Dark" isn't just for whitey.
― The Rich Man's 8-Track (u s steel), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I used to play any of these records whenever I had parties at my house and it was getting too late.
Aksak Maboul - Un peu de l'âme des banditsResidents - Duck StabRoger Payne - Songs of the Humpback WhaleLamborghini Crystal - Dial: 747 Creepozoid Luasa Raelon - Automatic SatanLuasa Raelon - Season of the Witch
― Moka, Monday, 20 September 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Nurse With Wound / Whitehouse - The 150 Murderous Passions
― Aqua Buddha (herb albert), Monday, 20 September 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Yah I guess Wolf Eyes or Pan Sonic or something like that.
― Cox's Muffin syndrome (admrl), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vId0KOlY6V8
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
dunno if i mentioned it on this thread already, but i found this alb really pretty upsetting:
http://terrornoiseaudio.blogspot.com/2009/01/runzelstirn-gurgelstck-asshole-snail.html?zx=f79e409a8a5ca892
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
not too interested in clicking on a link that includes the phrase asshole snail in it
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
links to a wilco bootleg, go for it
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
miles davis - black beauty: live at filmore west
deep n hard psychofunk
― sawan, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
xp: ow my eyes.
― kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i know i've listened to asshole / snail dilemma but i can't remember it! dark n hard is techno / dub for me these days, something with a lot of structure.
― Matt P, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
metal if i listened to any
― Matt P, Monday, 20 September 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
o_O ??
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
links to a wilco bootleg, go for it― Ward Fowler, Monday, September 20, 2010 2:17 PM
― Ward Fowler, Monday, September 20, 2010 2:17 PM
<3
― I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
New Order - Sunrise is as hard as i can handle.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
bleakest album:
Peter Sotos "Buyer's Market"
it's a collage/cut-up of personal, first hand testimony sourced from mainstream TV, radio and documentaries in which victims of abuse talk about being sexually molested, raped, exploited; prostitutes describe violent and awful experiences; crying children narrate their own sexual abuse; and family members sob about the torture and murder of their loved ones.
what makes it especially disturbing is the way that the collation/editing/presentation of it seems to conjure up the question of whether or not it is used by Peter Sotos to get off on these descriptions of violence and cruelty, and in order to work that out, your own imagination gets fired up with "would this thing turn me on if I was some kind of pedophile creep?", and *that very structure of vicarious participation* is, I think, what the record is supposed to be about- the "Buyer's Market" is the mainstream media feeding frenzy for authenticity/realness, hypocritically tsk-tsk-ing about the very atrocities it serves up
and yet (and here's the second twist) the claim that this record is about media seems like a convenient pseudo-intellectual / falsely "critical" fig-leaf to cover up a pretty basic and super fucked up enjoyment in other people describing pretty unimaginably horrific experiences.
So, i would say, hands down, this is the darkest/hardest-to-listen-to record I own.
You feel disgusted with yourself after you listen to it, like you need a shower or something.
― the tune is space, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
rammstein
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, just noticed that thread title is "music you like", not "record you own"
diff question.
I'd say the darkest *music* would be:
Brainbombs "Urge to Kill" Sutcliffe Jugend "When Pornography Is No Longer Enough"
which take the Sotos-style scenarios of rape, murder, molestation, kidnapping and abuse and set them to heavy post-Stooges psych rock (Brianbombs) and Whitehouse-style power electronics (Sutcliffe Juged) respectively. They are both *great* as completely demanding, powerful, un-ignorable musical experiences. and yet also beg a lot of the same questions of intent / moral complicity / false-critique that the Sotos does, while actually being, you know, "music".
― the tune is space, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I would like to say something obscure and hip but realistically it's just Slayer.
― no gut busting joke can change history (polyphonic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahaha thank god you've allowed me to retract that rather stupid joke - would listen to those records! my favourite foetus song is narrated from a paedophile's POV - sometimes this stuff is highly compelling psychological engagement rather than exploitative trash
xp
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
my actual answer to this question? tough - would probably say something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0qaIzaYDc
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkh2W0Le4Mo
^^^^^^^so, so, so, so, so, so good
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ARGH here's a version that DOESN'T chop off the last 30 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHnJNEbNZw
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Xasthur can play too but I'm not linking any of his stuff tonight.
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Carcass, Esoteric, Harvey Milk, dälek, Nattens madrigal
― Brad C., Monday, 20 September 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ok I really like three of those and would probably dig the other two so yeah that post can be added to my own tentative list
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
dälek is probably my favourite discovery of 2010 and their stuff kills like little else...esoteric's last album was a terrifying, overwhelming blinder, nattens madrigal is fury on tape
― cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Harvey Milk are probably mine too.
― Neil S, Monday, 20 September 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link