not can, but tangerine dream's "electronic meditation" would probably be a fairish comparison, in the freer parts. "ruckzuck" is definitely great - it was actually used as the theme for a pop-science for kids program here in the US ("newton's apple") and has a bouncy little groove. if you like neu! and "electronic meditation," yes, you need to hear the first two kraftwerks.
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― Damian (Damian), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 09:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
Exactly. I'm glad someone else figured out how to say this (although I do like some floaty flute).
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 25 December 2002 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.roughtrade.com/site/shop_detail.lasso?search_type=sku&sku=261722&-session=rt1:438A746B11c01034E0mnI17C685B
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Replace "[" and "]" with ""
This is my most "advanced" html trick.
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― bob snoom, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7813200.stm
:(
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
The boy Schnieder done good but he has to hang up his boots sometime
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been disappointed by how accessible they've been over the past few years. Maybe this will restore a little mystery.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
But Florian was the weirdo mystery element in the group
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
And now he's not even in it! It's like SUPER MYSTERIOUS!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link
This at the bottom of the BBC page...
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45301000/jpg/_45301645_cones2_126.jpgCones hotlineThe lasting legacy of John Major's much ridiculed plan
― snoball, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link
what would Florian do?
Hopefully jam with Michael Rother and Jaki L., but probably not. :(
― 909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Every time I play the opening minute or two of "Europe Endless" I'm kinda convinced there's no better start to a song -- an album, ANYTHING -- out there. It's such a perfectly realized and precise arrangement, and *then* the beats arrive.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
co-sign!
Europa Endlos should be the anthem of the EU.
― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
For me, that moment is the keyboard interlude the third time or so it's repeated. For one, I just love the sound of the saw wave and the little modulation accents Ralf plays. But on that iteration, Ralf knocks it up a register — and it just takes off. Easily my favorite Kraftwerk moment, period.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Folks have probably already seen this, but just in case:
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3212&Itemid=26
Remasters of Autobahn, Radio-Activity, Trans Europe Express), The Man Machine, Computer World, Techno Pop, The Mix, and Tour De France. Available individually or as a box set, in which case they come in those horrible little "mini LP sleeve" packages people seem to like for some reason.
― More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 05:03 (fourteen years ago) link
On October 5 Kraftwerk will release 12345678: The Catalogue, a CD box set collecting eight of their classic studio albums. Newly remastered versions of the albums will also be available individually on CD, vinyl and download.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link
- 8 x individual CDs presented in special slipcases featuring newly expanded artwork, including many previously unseen images all of which have been reproduced to the highest technical standards. - CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets. - 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets. - Digital downloads.
- CD Box Set containing 8 x CDs in ‘mini-vinyl’ card wallet packaging, plus individual large format booklets.
- 8 x individual heavyweight vinyl LPs with large format booklets.
- Digital downloads.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Any reason to buy these for those of us who own all the albums on CD already? Sounds like extra packaging but nothing in the way of new/unreleased music... not really into those types of reissues.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Remastered sound?
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh my god, I'm listening to the original '83 version of "Tour de France" right now and am FLIPPING OUT
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
for the first time
The remastering will be the selling point for me. The CDs that we've been listening to for the last twenty years leave a lot to be desired.
― Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
will "Techno Pop" be mythical lost album or just "Electric Cafe" with original title?
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
wikipedia says it's just electric cafe with the original title
― elan, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
ralf and florian is nice, summery, kind of hawaiian
-- this explains why i like that lp so much!
― amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Techno Pop was basically a failed album that had the best parts remixed into Electric Cafe. I doubt it will ever seen the light of day and I am not too upset about it. It would be neat to hear out of curiosity, but I doubt they have eight Tour de France style joints sitting in the can waiting to be heard.
That being said, I can only imagine what they have in their archives. I would love to hear the demos for songs that didn't make the cut for their studio albums. They will never be heard while Hutter is alive, but it will be interesting to see how his estate handles the music.
It will also be interesting to see who is credited on the box set. I wonder if Schneider will have his name removed like Bartos and Flur.
― your original display name is still visible (Display Name), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
.. and Conny Plank...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
1983 demo version of 'Techno Pop' is utterly different than album version, almost a 70's retrench with the Orchestron vocal choir playing the chord sequence, I like it better than the album version
& there were three new tunes on the 98 tour than remain unreleased, I can see why but I'd still love a studio version of the one that sounds like their take on Basic Channel
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
word! is that demo vers floating around somewhere reachable?the live versions I've heard of the "Techno Pop" stuff is pretty great ... hard-hitting, muscular stuff
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
usual place, + demo version of 'techno pop' widely available on 'ultra rare trax volume 2' comp, most widely available bootleg of 97/98 tour is 'Computer Sinfonien ZKM'
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
correction, one word "Computersinfonien"
but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ace, thanks!
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
"but "Tribal Gathering" and "Live at the Fillmore" boots pretty good too"
for a second i'm thinking i clicked on the live dead thread by mistake...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I mean "Fillmore" is a better, more lush recording that captures more of the vibe of the night, but at "Tribal" Ralf was just so on
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
The only Kraftwerk recordings I have are 70's era, including the one with Rother + Dinger, and this one from Leverkusen with a 40 minute Autobahn
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
you know where leonardo is? I've been looking for Leverkusen forever, I'll put up 1975 Brighton if you post that one
to go back to "Tribal" it was like Ralf had all this energy that you could literally see rising out of his hands, and it wasn't the acid because I asked Mary and she saw the same tendrils
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
It's in flac or shn; what's the best way to send something of that size?
― claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i quite liked the three late 90s demos esp. the Tribal '97 one. actually 'Tango' was a bit shit but they kept doing that live for a while unlike the other two.
― unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
oh jeez, probably zipping the flac files would get them under sendspace-able 300 MB
I know this is bad form trading right out here on the street but seriously if they sold this shit legit we wouldn't be in the sorry state we are right now man
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
A+, but I really wanna know what they bought there
― sleeve, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
You vill be pulling ze finger, Herr Atkins?
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/blogs/read-michael-rothers-eulogy-to-florian-schneider-126501/
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
― sleeve, Thursday, May 7, 2020
Lays Kettle Chips + a bottle of white zin
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link
Feel quite emotional looking at that pic.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
behind the mask of the machine...a man
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 7, 2020
which flavour???
― maffew12, Friday, 8 May 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
wine flavour duh
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
otm
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link
@geetadayalLevel 1:In tribute, I am trying to dress up like Kraftwerk circa “The Man-Machine.” Problem is, I forgot how to tie a tie.Can you help? I never knew.This is how far she's gotten:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXYhKciUYAEik_G?format=jpg&name=900x900
― dow, Friday, 8 May 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link
Thread...
June 8 1998 was one of the most important nights of my life. Kraftwerk played a absolutely breathtaking show at the Palladium (the last tour w synths instead of laptops), after EVERYONE was headed Kontrol Faktory - LA's legendary all industrial club. And when I say everyone...— Das Bunker (@DASBUNKER) May 6, 2020
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 May 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
Great story. Takes me back to many fantastic nights at Kontrol and Helter Skelter
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 9 May 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link
Michael Rother remembers Florian from school days, early studio play, enduring inspiration etc.:https://www.uncut.co.uk/features/read-michael-rothers-eulogy-to-florian-schneider-126501/
― dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
A piece from the archives i just re-read, the predictably on point Pushing Ahead Of The Dame, talking about Bowie, Berlin, Kraftwerk etc
https://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/v-2-schneider/
― piscesx, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
xp It still occasionally amazes me that Michael Rother played in Kraftwerk, Neu! and Harmonia.
― doug watson, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
+ I have his first three solo albums ID3 tagged as Rother / Liebezeit / Plank
been going through the 1990 KW bootlegs. last tour with Karl Bartos, though it's Hilpert playing raw live percussion. lots of extremely different versions of the 90's digital retool of 'Numbers', and 'Autobahn' traffic jams are top. probably the last hurrah for them as an actual live band; the only real reason to go through different nights of any given tour after '91 is for fidelity reasons
― Milton Parker, Monday, 11 May 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
That Pushing Ahead piece reminded me that you can draw a straight line from "V-2 Schneider" to Einstürzende Neubauten's "Kalte Sterne" (they have the same underlying pulse):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8-oXfqqgVE
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 11 May 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
my little tribute here:https://critterjams.wordpress.com/2020/05/11/endless-endless/
― frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
speaking of Kraftwerk covers, new for Aboriginal / first nations charities, in homage to both Florian and Weatherall - a 15-minute Neon Lights cover (plus 10-minute remix)) by Jono Ma (from Pnau/Jagwar Ma), Jonti (Danimals/live Avalanches), Stella Mogzawa (Warpaint/the XX/Kurt & Courtney), Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson) & pals
― massage angry pixels (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link
Ewan Pearson (Ewan Pearson)
thank you for this, I knew the name sounded familiar...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
Ah, you’re partial to his arts
― massage angry pixels (sic), Saturday, 30 May 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link
Echo..
― Mark G, Saturday, 30 May 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
^ That Neon Lights cover is rather lovely and would have sounded excellent at ALFOSes I'm sure.
― Picasso visita el planeta de los shitposteros (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
new kraftwerk dropped lads: https://open.spotify.com/album/5FvNOnZtP0dQKZbDQ1uhGy?si=eOOM4BwmQCueKyK6Wm_5HA
― mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link
What's at the link?
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
This is really just a playlist of remixes that were previously released. Nothing new about it.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
yes
― mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
karl bartos solo material is just as good except his rock release!
― xzanfar, Monday, 21 December 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link
honestly p stoked the Orbital remix is finally on spotify
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
I was all "Oh Oh.... oh."
― Mark G, Friday, 25 December 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link
Never mind, I have enough copies of the Vertigo albums...
― Mark G, Friday, 25 December 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link
was thinking it would be funny to do a "Bohemian Rhapsody" style biopic of Jean-Michel Jarre. the only scene I have nailed down is Jarre buying Autobahn and hearing "Kometenmelodie 2" for the first time. his mind instantly rockets through the cosmos, like in the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey. you keep seeing him make the faces from the Vince McMahon gif. he wakes up drenched in sweat, comes downstairs and says "Dad...I don't want to take piano lessons anymore"
― frogbs, Saturday, 7 May 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link
Would watch!
― paolo, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
I had a dream about Kraftwerk last night. they did a show in Madison (?) and the setlist was:
RuckzuckNeon LightsSupper's ReadyElectric Cafe - with 5 cats in wireframe suits. 4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"
then the curtains closed and I grabbed a beer out of a vending machine (?) which came with a shot of Fireball for 27 dollars. I used my wife's credit card.
the curtains lifted and some guy comes out and says "sorry ze robot is broken, we cannot play, Auf Wiedersehen." and everyone stood up and booed and threw pretzels
― frogbs, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:48 (one year ago) link
sorry, had to write this down somewhere
amazing, tyvm
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link
hoping your wife is cool with the beer expenditure, otherwise it's Computerliebe from here on
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 15 April 2023 04:13 (one year ago) link
4 of them ran away, the other one flopped on its belly and everyone said "awww"I will retrofit this onto the Kraftwerk canon or die trying
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Saturday, 15 April 2023 05:40 (one year ago) link
Supper's Ready is the key element here
― hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 April 2023 07:49 (one year ago) link
Excellent.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 April 2023 08:01 (one year ago) link