― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link
appointing at the top end of a range is that it leaves the appointee with nowhere to go, if you see what I mean, making them more likely to leave quickly.
True, but if I'd been forced to take the job at the lower salary, I'd have been hunting for something else immediately. However, I know that the department is due to double in size over the next couple of years so promotion prospects are pretty good.
Anyway, I have the dosh I was after now!
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link
But yeah, I've had to negotiate salaries a couple of times now. It always helps to let your (potential) employer know that there's a potential bidding war. However, I've always had an agent to do this for me, as this is their job, to negotiate the best rate for me.
― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link
tell them, purely and simply, that you need more cash and that you've got other interviews lined up, and they will almost certainly cough up after a few days' dicking about. stet will no doubt have shared his wisdom on this matter, but here's an experience of my own:
i found myself in a similar position a few years back, having applied for a job that had a salary scale from x (low) to y (a bit higher). i got offered the job ... on salary x.
i got a bit mumpy about this and said that, really, i'd been expecting y, what with all the experience i could bring and blah blah blah. "ah," they said, "you'd have to work here for at least two years to get that."
"fuck that," i said, "the deal's off."
"erk," they said, "bear with us."
more than a week later they rang me back and offered me y. they made a really big deal out of it, as if it was the single greatest humanitarian gesture anybody had ever made. problem was, by this point i'd decided i really didn't want the job anyway, and took great delight in turning them down.
they tried exactly the same trick (offer x, increase to y after much moaning on their part) with the next person they approached. she turned it down too. mwoo-hah!
bottom line: they want you for the job. that puts you in a much stronger position than you might think. a little gentle negotiation can reap vast rewards.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 12 December 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
unless she has a job as a muffin-taster, right enough.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Why isn't today Krispy Kreme day?
― Kate Classic (kate), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
:-D
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 August 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Are you being offered muffins? Congratulations!
― StanM, Thursday, 21 August 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Amazing, really.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 August 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Ooh, I just read about it on your ponderpage - actual congratulations this time!
― StanM, Friday, 22 August 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Too kind, thanks!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
what's the best strategy when you are facing financial disaster?
lowball emhighball em"Whatever you can give me."
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link
What's the situation? I hate when this is part of initial interviews.
― maffew12, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
the situation as in position? assistant production editor
I am presently in a gig-job where I can't pay both my rent and my onerous medical bills
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link
As in your relationship to them, how this is coming up. Are you renewing or something? I just bump around salaried desk jobs and won't be much help to you. Good luck with it.
― maffew12, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
I would be a new hire at an academic institution
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
Oh. And they want people they are interviewing to tell them salary expectation, with no dollar figures being on their ad? That's the worst. I'm certain I've been screened out of jobs I probably didn't want anyway for answering too high. All I can say is give some reasonable estimate of what that position ought to pay. good luck
― maffew12, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link