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I have been to Helsinki many times in the summer. Go and lie on a rock by the harbour or go down eerinkikatu (help, Tuomas!!) - good street with bars and record shops. One of the best and most underrated cities in the world, period. I long to go back. Kiasma also well worth a visit.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 25 July 2003 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.

You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.
You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.

Finland has it all.

Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 26 July 2003 04:53 (twenty years ago) link

Go and lie on a rock by the harbour or go down eerinkikatu (help, Tuomas!!) - good street with bars and record shops.

That's "Erikinkatu" (which means "Erik's Street", "katu" is "street" in Finnish). To me, Erikinkatu isn't what it used to be, sadly. My favourite bar which was there is now closed, and Spinefarm Records, the first record shop to sell techno in Helsinki has dropped it's range of electronic music in favour of metal! But Aki Kaurismäki's bar (that two bars, actually: Corona and MOCKBA, though the latter is quite hard to spot) is still there, as well as the Finnish Film Archive's cinema, so Erikinkatu is still worth a visit.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 July 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

...Aki Kaurismäki's bar (that two bars, actually: Corona and MOCKBA...

what does the *Mockva* look like, Tuomas?!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 28 July 2003 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

As the name implies, it tries to create sort of pseudo-Russian (or pseudo-Soviet Union, to be more precise) athmosphere. The interiors are scruffy, the service is slow, the vinyl jukebox plays old Russian schlagers, the sandwiches they sell are a week old, and the name of the bar appears only on a yellow A4 sheet of paper taped to the window (that's why the place is so hard to spot).

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

helsinki has a club called "RASTAMAN OY" = helsinki is one cool city!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

actually it isn;t a club ... it's something known in finnish as "Graafinen suunnittelutoimisto." still, RASTAMAN OY is a pretty cool name for an establishment to have.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Spinefarm was a ROCK label in the past. It certainly sounds like one, although they signed my friend's (decidedly non-rock) band, Super.

OY is Finnish for Ltd.

Tag (Tag), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

"Graafinen suunnittelutoimisto" = graphic design office. Spinefarm is indeed a rock/metal label, but their record store used to sell both metal and electronic music. Now it's only metal, sadly.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

A weekend (or weekday-avoid the crazy drunken Finns) in Tallinn also very worthwhile. t/'/'t will hopefully concur.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 28 July 2003 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

avoid the crazy drunken Finns

That's a fuckin' good advice. If you didn't know, middle-aged Finns take cruises to Tallinn to buy cheap booze and cigarettes, and to act stupid. In the process, they end up ruining the reputation of the rest of us in the eyes of the Tallinners.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:09 (twenty years ago) link

I experienced the delights of the Helsinki-Stockholm ferry a few years ago, sharing a cabin with a middle-aged Finn and an exceptionally irritating elderly American who insisted on badmouthing Finns for their lack of hospitality towards a free-spending American tourist. When he left the Finn turned to me and said "Stupid Yankee. We drink wodka now". And we did. The Stockholm archipelago is truly beautiful, and I sincerely wish I hadn't experienced it through one of the worst hangovers of my life.

Tag (Tag), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

Those Finland-Sweden cruises used to be the favourite place for youngsters to go boozing up, but nowadays they've raised the age limit ridiculously high (21 or 23) because of a few cases of high schoolers having an alcohol poisoning.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

what's the architecture like there?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link

Tuomas, do you know the band Giant Robot? i have an "internet friend" from a few other message boards and through email, Arttu, that's in the band. i've only briefly heard bits of them, but he said they were getting kinda big.

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, as there's already a question 'bout Helsinki musicians, I hope Tuoumas won't mind another one comin' from me. -- PASTACAS? (Rings a bell, no?) He makes slightly loung-y, easy-flowin' computer-derived stuff, plays some flute and guitar as well; he's been living 'over there' for several years now.
Tuomas, I gather you're into varied kinds of 'electronic music', so I thought it wouldn't harm asking. :)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

I got to visit Helsinki a few months ago, but the trip mostly consisted of being shuttled around from one Big Cultural Attraction to another. I'll just say that everything was beautiful and well-designed, and all the people were really friendly, and that the number of saunas there is truly remarkable.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

Giant Robot is a hip hop/electro/dub crew, their first proper album "Crushing You With Style" was a decent party record, their latest record "Superweekend" is not so good, sounds more like background music. They were supposed to become big, but now I'm not so sure anymore. I think they've been replaced by Don Johnson Big Band, which has similar sound, but with more jazz influences.

Sorry Tiit, I've never heard of Pastacas. The Finnish electronic scene has grown so big, it's hard to keep up with the pace.

the number of saunas there is truly remarkable

Well, sauna is the Finnish national hobby.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
ok, is May a good time to go? will it have warmed up a little by then? as long as it is relatively dry, i dont really mind about temperature

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 7 March 2004 11:29 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
ryanair flies into Tampere, is this a good idea, or is it better to pay more and fly into helsinki?

what about the ferry to tallin?

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 21 March 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

ferry to tallinn takes 1 hour 40, thats good

what about the one to stockholm?

gareth (gareth), Sunday, 21 March 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

A train trip from Tampere to Helsinki lasts two hours and costs about 20 euros.

A cruise ship to Stockholm leaves in the afternoon and arrives to Stockholm next morning. A non-cruise ship is probably faster. Be warned that Helsinki-Stockholm and Helsinki-Tallinn cruise ships are likely to be full of drunken Finns, since cruises are a popular pastime amongst middle-aged folks back here.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 21 March 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

By the way, Tampere is a nice, cozy city in it's own right. It used to be called "The Finnish Manchester", because of it's long history as a working class town. The class issues aren't that big any more, but Tampere still has a less bourgeoise feel than Helsinki.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 21 March 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Finnish Manchester eh? Check this out: http://musicisbetter.co.uk

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Sunday, 21 March 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

ok it looks like i will be arriving in helsinki next thursday, the 8th april!

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:37 (twenty years ago) link

You lucky bastard,

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 1 April 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm going next week. For work.

How should I spend my evenings. Where can I eat nice cheap food and drink?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Ed, I'd love to help, just email me. That's my real address there.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Eerikinkatu

Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

That's not as cool as it used to be... They've closed down Mother, Saunabar (this one only temporarily), and Leopold (which used to be my regular pub). There's still Moskva and Corona though, plus a couple of new spots.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

:(


out of touch.

Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm back there next week, Tuomas, can you recommend some restaurants? I ended up eating in the hotel last time and it was pretty awful.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

my new favorite website about helsinki:

Hel-Looks

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love that site too. It makes me want to spend more time with my sewing machine, that's for sure.
I want to be friends with this couple (and I even have a coat similar to hers!):
http://www.hel-looks.com/?p=image/archives/1/20060107_01/
And this is just cute - I think the purse is key:
http://www.hel-looks.com/?p=image/archives/7/20051007_02/

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Where do I find all of these super cute people/clothes?

Ed (dali), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm kinda out of the loop on the restaurant scene, since I can't afford to eat out that often. Also, since I've been a vegetarian for the last 9 years, I only know places that serve decent veggie food. I guess I could recommend a couple of those. If you want to meet up or something, you can e-mail me at tuomas dot alho at helsinki dot com. I'm sorry I didn't answer last time, I got your mail a bit too late. What day are you coming here?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 20 January 2006 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

An OK cupid match gave me some restaurant ideas. I'll call you after work.

http://static.flickr.com/38/90554382_107077e847.jpg

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You going on a date? :)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:23 (eighteen years ago) link

that should have said 'some more restaurnat ideas'. No, no such luck But some of my top matches are Finning so I thought it would be worth a try.

There's quite a wind chill this morning. I hope this doesn't make walking around later unpleasant or undooable.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:24 (eighteen years ago) link

A conversational theme seems to be, 'Good job you weren't here on Sunday, it was -22'

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

What's her (his?) username? ;)

Haha, be glad you didn't come here last week, we had minus 20 degrees Celsius then. This is mild.

(x-post)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah, complaining about the weather is a favourite Finnish pastime. It's never good.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

h31su

(google proofed)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I know her! Very well actually. I think she's spoken for these days or something though. Did you ask to meet her?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

no, I would have felt very sleazy aksing a girl out whilst passing through on a business trip.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't spoken with her for a while, but if you want to go out tomorrow evening, I guess I could ask if she'd up for a pint or something.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"she'd be"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

OK

Definately up for tomorrow evening. The more the merrier I say.

Now if only I had clicked on the comment maker's linka at the bottom of the profile, everything would have become clear.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i long to go to Tapettitalo, the worlds best wallpaper store.

http://www.tapettitalo.fi/

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Will you be back by my housewarming, Ed? (29th January)

You still haven't given me mine peppermint crisps!

Trying To Resonate Concrete (kate), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

ed used to literally have a long blond mane, before it got twisted. he looked like a lion. i would show evidence if i had any to hand.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cheezey.org/thundercats/gallery/lionoturning.jpg

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone passing through Helsinki between now and august this year should take a look at ARS06 at the Kiasma art gallery. SO much great stuff and so little time to see it. I don't think I've been to a group show with so many works I've liked.

Particularly good were AES-F's huge digital painting called 'The Last Riot'. Hyper sexualised teens fighting each other with samurai swords and big pink Missiles; Charles Sandision's big text projections, letters and words coalesing into images etc.; Kalleinen and Kochta-Kalleinen's 'Complaints Choir of Birmingham'; Martin and Munoz's Snow Domes; Mariele Neudecker's wierd mountains in fish tanks; The crazy moving floor room by I forget whom. Loads of other great stuff as well. Looking forward to going back.

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 January 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

MANE

LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 27 January 2006 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the ARS exhbitions have usually been rather good, it's Finland's biggest exhibition of contemporary art and it's only held in every five years or so. I remember going to see the ARS95 as a tender 15-year old still quite critical of "modern" art, and it totally blew my mind.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I think I'm in love with this city. I took a nice long walk around today. Starting at the train station, I went across and down the esplenade, then over to Uudenmaankatu, across and all the way down Eerikinkatu (thanks to this thread), along the water, back up Merimiehenk, Albertsgatan, and Iso Roobertinkkatu. This had to be my favorite neighborhood (so far). I loved the shops and feel of the streets. How about that bookstore with all the rock biographies? After that I walked to the Kanavaranta, and then into the Kruununhaka. That neighborhood reminded me of San Francisco, actually: water nearby, trams and six story apartment blocks. Then back to the train station and the hotel. Now I've drank enough wine that I can accurately reflect. Maybe.

Okay I don't have answers (why would I) but questions:

-have I been to the most interesting neighbourhood in town (Punavuori)? I'm talking record stores, book stores, places to stay warm, galleries, design studios, etc.

-what's up with the double names?

-what are the most notable buildings of 20th century design in Helsinki? I've looked through Alvar Aalto's works, and at least in pictures, they're not doing much for me. It's looking like the interior of the academic bookshop is most interesting. at least that's what GIS is telling me.

-why am i not surprised that the girls are v v pretty?

jergïns, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

last question (for now). I walked by this place today on Iso Roobertinkatu. Do I want to know what they sell?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/447352311_83a47e58e6.jpg

jergïns, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

have you been to Kiasma?

admrl, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

as i drunkenly check my map...

no. ahhh, good friday tomorrow. closed:(

jergïns, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

tuomas, if you can read this send me a webmail, I think I sent one to you at your old address. I have a mobile number for you I will try smsing you. Anyway, I am in your city, let's drink.

Ed, Monday, 9 April 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

plz let me take back what i said about Aalto. I went to Finlandia and walked around the outside and was stunned. what a gorgeous exterior. i posted a picture at the bottom of this thread

jergïns, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I sent you mail, Ed.

-have I been to the most interesting neighbourhood in town (Punavuori)? I'm talking record stores, book stores, places to stay warm, galleries, design studios, etc.

Yeah, for those things the Kamppi-Punavuori area is certainly the best place to go. But for nightlife and general feel I find it kinda posh. Personally I prefer Kallio, which is a more bohemian district, though to some folks it might be a bit too dirty and full of alcoholics and junkies. Each according to his taste.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Each according to his taste.

how Scandinavian

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Jergins, the place in the picture is a night grill which sells hamburgers and stuff (they're common here, people go there once the pubs close). Though this one is ran by some Jesus folks (Tuomas refers to the biblical Thomas), from what I've heard they also hand out Christian tracts.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

[i}how Scandinavian[/i]

Finland ISN'T Scandinavia!

admrl, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i knew that was probably true but didn't care

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

people can still have a Scandinavian approach/attitude without being in Scandinavia. stop being so english adam!

blueski, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

NEVER

admrl, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I am turning into Marcello Carlin ='(

admrl, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

is it not culturally "scandinavian"?

gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe. whatever. Or Nordic. I'm sorry for being so pedantic. I'll go now.

admrl, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

We're not officially part of Scandinavia, but I think socioculturally we're still closer to the Scandinavian countries than any other region in the world. Or at least to Sweden, I haven't been to the other three.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh what do YOU know?

admrl, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Tuomas! Do you still live in Helsinki? I hope so, because I will be there around Christmastime and want to drink beers with you!

quincie, Sunday, 13 November 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

so i have two fairly long layovers in helsinki (one's 8 hours, one's like 15 or 16), both overnight. is the airport reasonably convenient to fun stuff to do? any ideas for late night hijinks?

adam, Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

so I am staying in Töölö next week; any tips on that neighborhood, where to eat, etc.? also I have never been to Helsinki generally so I dunno what else to do there. I'm there to work obv but there will be some time to look around. in particular I'd like to see puzzling Finnish visual art, I want to feel like I'm in an alien place where people eat beaver sausage or vegan beaver sausage or whatever, rather than another European mall (unless the mall has puzzling visual art and sells beaver sausage)

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link

Well, in Töölö you have this place, which is a combined restaurant/pub/gallery/music and theatre venue, it's well worth a visit:
http://www.korjaamo.fi/en

Also in Töölö is one of the famoust art galleries in the town:
http://taidehalli.fi/en

If you want to eat some "authentic" Finnish food, you should visit one of the street grills, they're very popular after the pubs close. This one is probably the most famous, and it's also in Töölö, near the Parliament House:
https://fi-fi.facebook.com/pages/Jaskan-Grilli/111680452244862

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link

Oh, and if you're here on April 30th/May 1st, there'll be loads of people on the streets. May 1st is a national holiday, and traditionally both students and left-wing parties celebrate the day, so there'll be some street rallies (probably not in Töölö though, it's a fairly bourgeoise area) and people having picnics while wearing their "student hats". (The hat is something you get once you graduate from the gymnasium, and a lot of older people wear it on May 1st too.) On both days there'll also be a lot of students on the streets drinking booze and wearing all sorts of coloured overalls. (Different schools each have their own type of overalls with their own colour.) It's basically the closest thing Finland has to a carneval.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link

Cool thanks! I'm leaving fairly late on the 30th.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

coming back again today! anything fun going on this weekend?

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 June 2016 07:36 (seven years ago) link

There's the "Wonderlust" conscious/feminist/queer sex festival, don't know about anything else.

http://www.wonderlust.fi

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 June 2016 11:07 (seven years ago) link

Seems like on Sunday they have an afternoon techno/house music party at Ääniwalli, which is the hippest electronic music club in here at the moment:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1791026327794166

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 June 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

Here's another club that's hip at the moment, they have some house parties on the weekend too

https://www.facebook.com/clubkaiku

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 June 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link

Thanks!

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 June 2016 12:15 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

in this cold and dark place again

going to Lapland tomorrow, in January. brrrrrrrrrrrrr

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Hey, it's pretty warm in here for mid-January! Won't disagree with you on Lapland, tho.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

It's as cold in Paris today as Helsinki, so yes. tomorrow up to Kilpisjärvi. a guy in Helsinki just told me that Kilpisjärvi is exotic, but in a very different way than how we normally think of exotic. I've never seen the auroras and I am happy to do so.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

I am here and it is delightful.

jaymc, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

What are you up to in Helsinki, are you staying here for long?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

Hi Tuomas!! I just got here last night and am here until Saturday morning. My wife and I went to Estonia for the national Song Festival and traveled around there for about a week, and now we are in Helsinki for a few days before we go back to Chicago. Today we went to Suomelinna and then wandered around the Design District for a bit. Before we leave, we're planning to go to a couple of museums and maybe a sauna. What are you up to? Wanna hang out? We're staying in Kallio.

jaymc, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link


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