Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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But my favourite Scouse report of the day is this, from LFC's experience in Lithuania:

The bone-dry surface at the St Dariaus and St Gireno Stadium could prove problematic, the standard of the pitch not helped by the fact that the European junior athletics championships took place in this arena over the weekend. Javelin divot marks are visible on the turf and as the players trotted through their training routines last night the prospect of one of his key men turning an ankle sent shivers down Benítez's spine.

Javelin divot marks!

the bellefox, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone fancy catching a bit of LFC vs the mighty Lithuanians in town tonight? It's on SKY1, right?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

JtN - yes, could be a good idea. In fact, it was striking me, like a hard old leather ball, when I read the report.

I guess we'll have to find a way to the SKY1, but we could get some tips by listening to the old Primitives track "(We've) Found A Way (To The Sun)" (which despite its brilliantly precise use of parentheses was to my knowledge never also known as "Found A Way").

the blissfox, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

They want throwing some bloody javelins at 'em, spoilt little nerkers.

As for Cahill, make him clean the toilets for three years!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the Cahill thing is a storm in a royal blue mug; he's still got three years to go, plenty of time to sort it aht. Amazingly, we've re-signed Pistone.

Liverpool seem to be hoovering up players for "undisclosed" sums. Are three-digit squad numbers allowed? Hey, why not enter two or three teams in the FA Cup?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if this will destroy Cahill's "relationship with the fans"? I do hope so, it must be ever so distressing to have one's "relationship with the fans" turn sour.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, I don't think Cahill's about to leave. But I find his words unsavoury.

5th round: Liverpool vs Benitez Boys. BBs win on a 2nd replay, on a frozen plastic pitch, in Hatfield.

Spurs never seem to announce what they've paid either, these years. Perhaps this is for the best - it stops people knowing how much money we are wasting, or still have to waste on other players should another club demand it?

the bingfox, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the fans should be fairly understanding - it's not exactly a snub, Cahill's decided not to sign away a large chunk of his career for an extra £5k/week, hoping to hold out for a better deal. By current standards, it's hardly greedy. I think 80% of all "quotes" by footballers are totally made up. Don't quote me on that.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The Pinefox and I will be convening at the Friend at Hand near Russell Square if anyone fancies joining us to watch the game. MJ? PJM?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid not, because I'm going to view a house in SE19 at 8pm. This doesn't involve merely standing outside looking at it because I could do that any time.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I'd kind of like to, despite my complete lack of interest in this exercise in divot-churning. But I feel that I ought to go home and do my share of the dandling duties. If it wasn't for that, I would be up for it. I am torn, can you tell?

That pub's name is a bit mutually masturbatory, isn't it?

Michael, I recommend buying a totally knackered house and doing it up. That's my plan. Collins DIY Manual is on offer at the moment.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember, folks - the wank boozer symposium (if Stuart Murdoch wants that phrase he can pay me for it) is tonight!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

meanwhile, 15 years for ATTEMPTED murder? And it's not even the right man :(

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Everton name Weir as new captain:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/4721337.stm

He's 35!

I am bored enough to find that interesting.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

It was good, at the wank boozer symposium. We decided that

1) Morley and Thomson should review more widely

2) Amis is a worse realist than Nabokov

3) Sinclair has more quiddity than Amis

4) LFC weathered the storm

5) book reviews are the motor of intellectual history

6) Orange Juice = Pound, Lloyd Cole = Eliot

But we did not quite agree on the decline of radio as a public experience.

the pinefox, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Meanwhile - Moyes talks tough!

"I'm concerned about the draw, definitely," the manager said. "I've got clear concerns about what might happen. Of course the decision as to who is seeded or not is nothing to do with us. We can't influence who is seeded and who is not, but I do think that it's wrong that two clubs from the same country - the same city even - could be drawn against each other in European competition at this stage.

"You qualify for the Champions League in order to play teams from another country, not your local rivals. You don't usually expect to get one from your own country, let alone your own city, but there is only one club which is exposed to the fact that Liverpool have not been granted country protection, and that's Everton. That's a fact."

Everton fans must appreciate his gritty determination to stick up for the club.

the pinefox, Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the notion that Liverpool are amongst the seeds is a bit like the defending Wimbledon champion, denied a wildcard or direct entry because his/her ranking has slumped so low, battling through Roehampton qualifying and then getting seeded in the main draw.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 28 July 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"Orange Juice and Lloyd Cole fighting in the Captain's tower."

Hmm - doesn't quite scan.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I have looked up quiddity. I think we should just declare Amis shit and have done with it.

Perhaps Phil Thomson* will take over Strachan's role on MOTD2, then he can review more.

Oh I will have to do some book reviews then. I might start by actually finishing a book. That would be a start.

Lloyd is, I think, a bit of an Orange Juice copyist. Does that fit you analogy, or is it a bit of a (wait for it) Poundstretcher? (As in what ambulance drivers have).

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Why has no one commented on how shocking it is for The Pinefox to say, let alone publish, the word wank?

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

He's gone downhill.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I never had him down as a Symposium fan either.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid you've lost us oldies there.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Big news from the Champs Lge draw relevant to this thread: FIRST DERBY OF THE SEASON...will still be in December*. Phew.

(* - Carling Cup notwithstanding).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

for you, PJ

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link

As we all know, Symposium have split up a long time ago which is, ofcourse a shame. I still listen to their records so now and then and i hope you do to :)

I don't.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Ross: Current band 'Papercuts'

With JtN, of course.

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I saw that, but I was lost for words.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Crickey!

I am glad the derby, posibly featuring Lerby, has been delayed.

the pinefox, Friday, 29 July 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, possibly.

All those posts were good. That's why I said, Crickey.

Mooro, your point is good; (Barrow-) in fairness, I was trying to be Murdochesque.

the pinefox, Friday, 29 July 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Fenerbahce 5-0 Everton. Looking good, chaps.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 31 July 2005 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps Everton are getting their bad spell out of the way before the season proper starts.

I am looking forward to Michael Reporting Back on his Everton DVDs.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only watched half of my 03-04 Season Review WITH RAY STUBBS so far; the highlights are inevitably edited in such a way that gives the impression that, if only our finishing had been a little better, we'd have been top three by Xmas. We did pummel Chelsea for no reward though (Nyarko - Nyarko! - hitting the bar, Mutu scoring with his arm). The 30/8/03 Goodison derby is thankfully glossed over.

Unfortunately, the disc is FAULTY. It jumps straight from Big Les peeling away after slamming home a freekick for Leicester at Goodison the week before Xmas to the Norwich FA Cup tie three games later - missing FIVE EFC goals! Maybe I should QC the other discs before drafting my letter of complaint.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 07:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh dear.

In general, I don't like those posthumous commentaries. I mean, with the benefit of hindsight commentaries.

You will be pleased to hear I am proofing Alexei Sayle.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

There is no proof for Alexei Sayle, you just have to believe in Him.

Stubbsy manages to keep the tone chipper in his linking voiceovers even though he knows the season will end in miserable failure. I don't recognise the match commentators (possibly EFC's own) but they're inarticulate enough to convince you that they were there at the time. We do get a dash of Rooney-in-excelsis from 02-03 with Clive T mixed very quietly.

Me and the missus are currently moving cut-outs around on graph paper in an effort to solve a househunting quandary. Little time for luxuriating in McFadden's wasted potential today.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

LJ Kruzer is sitting in your place.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, if I'd known my seat was going to go to him I'd have left all my Can MP3s on the C-drive.

I see "sources close to" little Mikey Owen say Everton were one of the clubs (see also: Bolton W, Schalke, Hexham Rheostatics) initially laughed out of the room linked with the "unsettled England star". I wonder if yr modern L'pool fan would find his seemingly impending move to Old Trafford last palatable than one to Goodison?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

less, not last

bless, not blast

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I am hoping that Ickle Michael's post-LFC career trajectory now follows that of R. Fowler.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I am eating an Everton mint.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The thought of Michael Owen playing for Man U is pretty sickening, though not as sickening as it would be if he went to Chelsea.

In response to Michael's question, I don't think I'd be as disgusted if he went to Everton, as Man U, possibly cos I'm not from Liverpool, or possibly because I fear Man U more!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think there is one English club that would suit Owen right now which is quite scary. Maybe Milan or Juve should pick him up.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Owen-to-United is a good instance of the vacuity of footy talk in the so-called media and that. Days of it - then it emerges that they aren't that interested in him anyway.

Lots of clubs or teams could be improved by his insertion. Everton are one of them. So are Liverpool, maybe!

Also today: Benitez says that he's glad Mourinho is putting LFC down cos it means he's scared of them.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

If Rafa was starring in an American sitcom it would be called Good Comeback! If not Tell It To My Hand (The One That Isn't Holding A European Cup For Keepsies).

But he let himself down a bit by empthasising the importance of Gerrard re "He will win more trophies for us...soon" Better to play down the one-man show thing surely.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, his comeback reminds me of a Boy George-apologist schoolfriend of mine (who is now Big In Tha Theatre) whose response to Spitting Image's "War is naughty, people who start wars should be sent to bed early" pisstake was to say that it proved Culture Club were still important.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Why would Boy George need apologists? His A-Team cameo wasn't THAT bad.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Today I read in the Independent (there) that Anthony Le Tallec is leaving LFC for Sunderland on a year's loan. He comments: "At Liverpool it is very difficult to play every week".

Yes - it often looked that way, last season.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

(I know, they are Champions of Europe!)

the bellefox, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Return of the high ball game:

Everton 1-0 Udinese
Simon Davies scored Everton's winner against Udinese but the Merseysiders produced a less than convincing show.
Davies stabbed home a knock down from Duncan Ferguson as the Toffees prepared for their Champions League qualifier against Villarreal on Tuesday.

Villarreal assistant coach Ruben Cousillas was at the game as Everton's lack of firepower seemed to be exposed.

Everton only scored after reverting to the high ball game and have just three goals in five pre-season friendlies.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 4 August 2005 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link


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