in every 'new yorker' short story ever...

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harpers 4 lyfe

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:02 (sixteen years ago) link

^ real talk

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:08 (sixteen years ago) link

harpers wack too

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link

upstate writer living off 90's economy gets drunk and falls asleep in central park and wakes up in a cave 20 years later and wait they never get this far

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link

damn son i thought we was fam

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link

minstrel

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the creeps at mcsweeneys should ride on the new yorker

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

i should offer to ship valencia assault rifles see how they respond

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:14 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mr. Eggers, I have some light verse, and John O'hara and Louise Erdrich naked and strapped down on a spinning table. How much would your people pay per mutilation?"

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link

rather get an astrology magazine

Arms, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

from the story linked by 31g:

But that wish only camouflaged the deeper feeling that Sasha always had: that fat, tender wallet, offering itself to her hand. It seemed so dull, so life-as-usual just to leave it there rather than seize the moment, accept the challenge, take the leap, fly the coop, throw caution to the wind, live dangerously (“I get it,” Coz, her therapist, said), and take the fucking thing.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha. I think it was actually Zuckerman Unbound that started in The Atlantic. It's all about Alvin Pepler.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 12:13 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, I remember reading that exact SENTENCE when that story came out and going "UGH, NEW YORKER FICTION!"

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess stuff like that doesn't bother me because 1) I'm basically illiterate so it doesn't really seem cliched to me and 2) I just skim over the boring parts whenever I read anything.

31g, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Ok wait, come on, this?
http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2008/03/10/080310fi_fiction_kunzru?currentPage=3

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:00 (sixteen years ago) link

This???

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, starts here:
http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2008/03/10/080310fi_fiction_kunzru?currentPage=1

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

We liked to do things casually. We called at the last minute. We messaged one another from our hand-held devices. Sometimes our names were on exclusive guest lists (though we were poor, we were beautiful, and people liked to have us around), but often we preferred to do something else—attend a friend’s opening, drink in after-hours clubs or the room above a pub, trek off to remote suburbs to see a band play in a warehouse. We went dancing whenever we felt like it (none of us had regular jobs), and when we didn’t we stayed in, watching movies and getting high. Someone always had something new or special—illegal pre-releases of Hollywood blockbusters, dubs of 8-mm. shorts from the nineteen-seventies. We watched next summer’s exploding airplanes, Viennese Actionists masturbating onto operating tables. Raw meat and Nick Cage. Whatever we watched was, by definition, good, because we’d watched it, because it had belonged—at least, temporarily—to us. By the time the wider world caught up—which always happened, sooner or later—we’d usually got bored and moved on. We had long since given up mourning the loss of our various enthusiasms. We’d learned to discard them lightly. It was the same with clubs and bars. Wherever we went would be written about in magazines three or four months later. A single mention on a blog, and a place that had been spangled with beautiful, interesting faces would be swamped by young bankers in button-down shirts, nervously analyzing the room to see if they were having fun.

I must make it clear that we didn’t plan for our lives to be this way. We despised trendies—fashion kids who tried too hard, perennially hoping to get hosed down by the paps or interviewed about their hair. With us, it wasn’t a neurotic thing. We put on public events—salons, gigs, parties, shows. But once in a while, in the midst of our hectic social gyrations, we liked to do something for one another, something that didn’t drain our energy, that made us feel private again.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I was confused. What did she mean, “so Raj”?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

The food was simple and plain—fruit, cheeses, loaves of crusty bread—and while we ate it there was a program of entertainment. Michel read several of his poems. Hengist and Horsa played folk songs. A woman called Kevin did some kind of improvised dance, a flurry of arm-swirling that made me feel embarrassed and slightly uncomfortable. I took that as a good sign. If a piece of art makes me uncomfortable or, better still, angry, that seems to be a reason to pay attention to it.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

As I’d hoped, I went home with Thanh, and for a few weeks my memories of Sunita’s party were filtered through my new relationship with her. We’d lie for hours on a rug on her studio floor, fucking and listening to music.

Cue Vampire Weekend

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

well at least there's some fucking in it I guess

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

It took me a minute or two to put it together, and when I did I wasn’t happy. The bastard. The two-faced little fucker. Raj had been getting paid to take those pictures. He’d come to our party, and not just any party, to Sunita’s party, the most beautiful gathering imaginable, and he’d shamelessly used it to sell us—to sell me—a product. The more I thought about it, the more angry I became. All that trash about the vodka being smooth: his whole conversation had been a sales pitch. It was creepy. More than creepy. It was sinister. Furious, I told Thanh to come over and have a look. She peered at the monitor, doing up her blouse.

“You came out pretty well,” she said. “I like your glam-rock pout.”

“But look at it. That bastard made us into an advert.”

“Are we credited?”

“Only our first names.”

“Shame. And I look so drunk.”

“I suppose you—no, no, no! That’s not the point. I mean, don’t you feel used?”

“What are you so upset about? You don’t look nearly as wasted as me. It’s hardly fair. You were downing those shots all night.”

“But what about Raj? He never asked us whether we wanted to be on his damn vodka Web site. And all that patter about how smooth it tasted!”

“It was smooth.”

“But to talk to people and secretly be trying to sell them something—isn’t that, I don’t know, unethical? Surely you agree that it’s completely out of order.”

“He didn’t ask us to buy anything. He gave us free drinks.”

“I know, but the point was to get us to buy something later on. That particular brand. We generate buzz. We recommend it to our friends, it becomes hip, blah-blah-blah.”

“He should have given me image approval. Look at my chin! I’m going to have words next time I see him.”

“For fuck’s sake, Thanh! He was just using us. He wanted to make us into—into early adopters.”

“But we are early adopters. I got a free phone a few months ago. All I had to do was watch a film and say how it made me feel.”

“Jesus, you really are a shallow bitch.”

Hmm, does this plot device make clear my point about appropriation? Nah, I'd better have the characters explain it through excrutiating dialogue.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:10 (sixteen years ago) link

One thing I must admit here: I find anger tricky. Anger is a very sincere emotion. We live under the rule of cool, and we are expected to encounter the vicissitudes of the world with a certain degree of irony.

SINCERITY/IRONY

Sincerity, as any hipster will tell you, is for awkward teens and people on SSRIs.

SINCERITY/IRONY/SSRIs

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link

HIPSTERS

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link

that paragraph is a grand slam

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I still think it's amazing that an entertainment magazine in one of the entertainment capitals of the world can't think of stuff to put on its cover.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

As the story continues, things start to get cray-zee! But I won't spoil it.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Late to the party, but that Gilby S (my pet name for him) interview posted above totally rocks my dick off

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, McSweeney's gives me bloody, chunk-filled diarrhea. Someone should start a thread on that pile of used-up toilet paper.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

hurting that story ... jesus

deej, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I couldn't even finish that Raj story; whenever the New Yorker and the NYT tries to do anything with "contemporary" culture, it reads like it was written by 60 year old hermits living in Upper Montclair, NJ or Westchester County, observing those "crazy kids" in New York through very powerful telescopes.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

no, it reads like it was written by some young new york writer living in a brownstone

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, McSweeney's gives me bloody, chunk-filled diarrhea

Something tells me it's not McSweeney's that's doing that.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

actually he's in London, apparently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Kunzru

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the story's terrible regardless of origin.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Apparently he was one of Granta's "Best Young" whatevers, which is a mark of death in my opinion. They specialize in that whole "laundry room epiphany" style of fiction.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:47 (sixteen years ago) link

eh, Granta is sometimes a good mag. I rarely bother with anyone's "writers to watch" type lists though. I think there's just something that fundamentally doesn't work about labeling writers as rated rookies and eagerly awaiting all the homers they're going to hit a couple seasons from now. Course that usually doesn't work with baseball players either.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Burt Stanton.

nabisco, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

trying to work out what Nabisco means by this phrase

maybe I hope he won't say

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Hi pinefox!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I like yr urbane pastiches a lot, TH!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

eg
15) characters with off-kilter names like "Claymer" and "Theria" whose relationship to the narrator is never spelled out; probably a cousin
-- Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 January 2008

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

btw what is 'Anhedonia'?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Look, why don’t you check out this band I’m working with?” He handed me a sleek little music player. I listened for a while, out of politeness.

“They’re the final wave of New Wave,” he explained. “After this, there will never be another reason to wear a Blondie T-shirt.”

Jordan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Despite her eccentricities, she was no introvert, was a lively presence on various online sites and game worlds.

...

Jordan, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

there's nothing sadder than some dude so out of touch, yet trying to appropriate what they think is youth culture. like, you're dad trying to get into hip-hop in the 90s.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

No, I'm not.

where is Nabisco now?

that story people are quoting from does sound diabolical, in an entertaining way.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link


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