― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Since the last time either WB or BS made a film no one except their moms knew who Jake and Heath were, you're mistaken. He's saying it's not as big a risk for them as it would've been for the other two in 1971.
It may not even prove to be the best Disney film starring Gyllenhaal.
http://www.jakegyllenhaal.info/jgallery11.jpg
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Except he says nothing about 1971 or 'back in the day.' He says they've been stars for "six months" - which means they can't be cultural figures of Beatty and Streisand's magnitude.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
That he's an old fogey may just underscore the fact that he's out of touch. No one cares about Beatty or Streisand. They could play gay grandparents all day long and no one would care - 'cuz no one will see them.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
How many big grossers have centered on JG or HL? None (Jarheadis doing OK).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Now, Morbs, you're right that neither Gyllenhaal or Ledger have single-handedly carried a box-office smash (unless A Knight's Tale counts, which it probably shouldn't) -- but I'd argue that both are very much A-list stars. (And I bet lots of people went to see The Patriot and Day After Tomorrow because of Heath and Jake, respectively.)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
The argument seems to take hold if you want to take on Warren Beatty tho, I mean I'm not really sure why he was Indiana's example.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I am pretty sure that Streisand was one of the stars of the top-grossing comedy of 2004.
― monkeybutler, Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I would be willing to bet you really good money that more people know who she is than know who Heath Ledger is.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.online.rtlklub.hu/kepek/0507/203749/kolumbusz.jpg
(xpost)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Is Babs enormous among any group of people not getting ready to collect a social security check?
Been to the Castro or Chelsea lately?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
DeNiro's lack of "slide off"? Like, The Fan or Rocky and Billwinkle!? :o
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Redford though, he still stands as a valid example!
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Jams remarking his GF loved it -- the b.o. success will depend on straight women.
Indiana would have had a much better point with a couple of current, legitimate royalty
But see, you get his POINT. Screw the example.
(Dick Tracy had several dozen times the Fun Quotient of every 'serious' comic-book adaptation since, and a Screaming Al Pacino that fit, for once...)
What if Brokeback had been makeable in 1980? Jeff Bridges and Dennis Quaid... mmmm...
Ally, I promise to be rational about 'Spielberg sucks' if I can point out the massive silliness of The Thomas Crown Affair, one hot chess match aside. ;)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Veering dangerously off topic but Dick Tracy has a terrible rap. The worst part about it is actually probably Warren Beatty but even he is ok. I haven't seen it in quite a while though. Both Madonna and Al Pacino were actually great choices, despite their obvious flaws in like virtually every other movie thrown at them. Even Bullworth wasn't really horrible! It is a little unfair, Warren Beatty's drop off had less to do with the actual quality of his work vis a vis others and more to do with Warren Beatty as a person.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
*eyes roll back into head.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
More bits on the MSM hypefest (Heath: "But in the end, it was just like kissing a person"):
http://towleroad.typepad.com/towleroad/2005/12/the_brokeback_j.html
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/articles/051212fr_archive01
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/id/2131264/?nav=fo
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link