'Marquee Moon' LP is overrated

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Very few bands have come close to capturing this sort of synergistic brilliance. Early Treepeople, perhaps. Hot Snakes? It's a fine art, and Lloyd and Verlaine were the absolute masters of this art.

Leatherface in their prime could do it

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 13 October 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

what's the sound quality of the blow-up like? have heard it's pretty rough - still worth the $?

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Friday, 13 October 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

marquee moon is one of my favourite records of its time. admittedly, it's difficult and i listen to adventure more often, but marquee moon is excellent in my books. but, given its fanatical acclaim, i don't see how it could not be overrated, much in the same way that great records like bitch's brew, velvet underground & nico, daydream nation, and everything the beatles ever did are all overrated.

this is probably just me, but the only canonical album i can think of that isn't overrated, even though it would almost have to be given the effusive praise, is pet sounds.

― Godfrzej Ljang (godfrzej), Friday, 13 October 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it flags after 'Guiding Light', but hell, surely it's the best first side of an album ever. I think in terms of combining raw rock & roll adrenaline &, for want of a better word, art (or maybe artiness) only Roxy Music come near.

I have to say I grew up with this on vinyl & I prefer the fade-out version of MM to the longer one.

― bham (bham), Friday, 13 October 2006 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The Blow-Up's worth remortaging your house to get.

It has to be admitted that "Torn Curtain" does sound a little bit like the Boomtown Rats.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link

.. and is about 5 mins too long!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 08:23 (seventeen years ago) link

torn curtain is one of my favorites on the album which is firmly placed in my top ten (for this month, at least)

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone I've ever played it to has loved it, but never got through "TC" with an "oh shuttup!"..

apart from one who lasted as far as "What I want..." the cloth-ear.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to say I grew up with this on vinyl & I prefer the fade-out version of MM to the longer one

Doesn't everyone?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

update: massive database update on rateyourmusic today

according to 125 + people on my favorite rym user list, Marquee Moon is currently the 3rd top ranked album of alltime
http://rateyourmusic.com/friendchart/user_is_djmartian

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Since when did Amon Tobin's Permutation become Marquee Moon?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL @ Mike Oldfield albums!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

POINT OF ORDER: #20 IS NOT AN ALBUM

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots of EPs and Aphex SINGLES actually.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL @ Amon Tobin

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

testing, strange when i am logged in there is a different chart.

I reckon that is has something to do with private [favourites] and public [friends] settings

most are set to private [favourites]

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

if your remotely interested this is the correct current 200 list:

200 rym list

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL @ Godspeed You Black Emperor!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

if people rate amon tobin so highly in public, what are they hiding?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Dadaismus r u drinking tizer today?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Straight no chaser

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

jed you don't understand how the system works. Let me explain on rym you can add people as either friends [public] or favorites [private]

for the 200 list, obviously when i'm logged in I can see the combined ratings of friends and favorites.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Love Will Tear Us Apart [7"] Joy Division is NOT AN ALBUM

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i know !

as rym chief, sharifi notes: in changes/ updates
http://tinyurl.com/y62t9h

2) Any type of release (EP, single, etc) can be bold (recommended) now.

so that probably goes for the top 200 list

notice it is titled:
Your Contacts: Top 200

most are albums though

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 13 October 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to say I grew up with this on vinyl & I prefer the fade-out version of MM to the longer one

Doesn't everyone?

not i. i got MM on vinyl about 12 years ago, when i started at college, loved it to death. didn't even know there was an extra minute or so on the CD till it got rereleased a couple of years back, and the end bit totally blows my mind (tho i see why people would prefer the fade)

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do you not prefer the fade?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the endy bit! you don't hear that on the fade version!

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

on cd it fades, no? it tails off, then starts again (drums), then fades?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't fade

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Only on the cheap version.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i bought the cd before the expensive version came out -- and until recently i wasn't enough of a sadcase to re-buy records when they got the louderizer treatment.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I only know it doesn't fade because they've got it on the jukebox in The Swimmer

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

So in other words it's the politics of envy because you don't get paid enough to be able to afford to buy the superior edition (xpost).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Or to drink in The Swimmer instead of the Hercules just up the road

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

that's really odd, enrique. a friend bought the original CD of marquee moon a while ago and that has the extended ending too (the recent rerelease had a couple of nice out-takes too, nothing essenital tho, but alternate takes of 'mm' and 'see no evil' with pretty radically different guitar parts)

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

nothing essential tho

er, "Little Johnny Jewel" as bonus track?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

So in other words it's the politics of envy because you don't get paid enough to be able to afford to buy the superior edition (xpost).
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), October 13th, 2006.

um ok.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, forgot abt johnny jewel (tho i already had that somewhere else), was referring to the previously-unreleased out-takes.

'elevation' messes with my head every time, the jarring guitar 'thrang' after "come go to my head" - always sounds like there's a scratch on the record somehow.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i used my nhs salary to get the original pressing of 'little johnny jewel' -- why would i need to get it again on pissant compact disc?

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I used my pocket money to get the original pressing of "Little Johnny Jewel" - 49p out of Listen Records, Renfield Street, March 1977.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You're beginning to sound like Bobby Gillespie, Marcello

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Bobby Gillespie didn't buy it because he was saving up his pocket money to go and see the Quo at the Apollo.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard he was playing with the Quo that night

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

He tried but they told him to go away and try for a job in the Dead End Kids.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

What I heard was that the Quo's tour bus went round to his house but his dad had to tell them that he was down the park playing football with Jimmy Johnstone and George Best

― Diddumsismus (Dada), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Summary:

Fade is on the LP and the 12" single.

Ending is on all CDs.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm *SURE* my pisspoor cd has fade. SURE!

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

go check!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

What's a thrusting Thatcherkid doing with old-fashioned CDs GRANDAD?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i will check maybe, on sunday.

― benrique (Enrique), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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