Taking Sides: Mayhem v. Burzum

Why is it all you people do is complain bunch of bickering women non sense!

My verdict: Varg Vikernes is responsible for black metal to became trendy, something that I strongly detest!

-- mortifer, Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:00 PM (6 years ago)

xD

I wish Vikernes talked like a pro wrestler about himself: "What the Count thinks is that Norweigan culture has a purity to it that needs to be preserved, and that's all the Count has to say about that!" And a punch line by which to indicate that he's finished with his thought, like "Black metal....brother!" or maybe "Soul power!"

Troll power! Although I once saw him suddenly denouncing all trolls and elves.

Murder over petty bullshit pertaining to a small, insular music scene most people don't care about is so completely emo. Varg is an utter idiot, but the first few Burzum records are pretty monumental.

-- helmut was a krautrocker (helmut was a krautrocker), Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:57 PM

^^ that

there's also a great name for mersh black metal upthread that I hadn't seen before: "pinkmetal"

Ordo ad Chao is too good not to demand some response from Varg I'd guess

While I don't agree that Varg is an idiot, he has certainly done a ton of extremely retarded shit. Does this take one ounce of shine off Filosofem for me? Absolutely not.

No, it is definite that he has intelligence. However, who brags on the number of amplifiers they are hauling, as if your album is now better for it? I am tired of hearing this discussed, for Filosofem. >_<

Regarding trendiness. I find it is trendy now to be anti-trendy for sure. Also, sadly, it is trendy to be trendy to be ani-trendy. This is most regrettable development. For clear example, one need only look at black metal message boards, where people wish each other Merry Xmas! Even if this is so-called irony, I blacken their names each in my heart.

-- Janne Karlsson, Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:39 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

indeed there is nthing that is not blackened and made bleaker by seriousness.

-- Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:49 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

"I could go on and on exemplifying how ludicrous this book and the theories of the authors really are, but I have better things to do." - Varg

Yeah, like making license plates?

Anyway, I have always liked Mayhem (maybe my 10th or 15th favorite black metal band), never bought Burzum (though I've heard and liked Filosofem). I just never wanted to give that guy any of my money. It's the same reason I own all the Emperor albums except for ITNSE. But now that I know that Varg owes Norway 33 million Kroner, I think I could safely buy some of his records and know that the money was going to build new churches and support the Jews after all.

that Burzum record sales are funding church building is the best thing ever.

For the record, the above is an assumption. But it's a funny idea if it's true!

Please! Vikernes will not be paying even 50 øre, probably.

How could he legally avoid it?

Think: what is to happen if he is not paying it? Go to jail? >_<

Nerrrr, they just take the money out of the royalties from his record sales, before he sees them. HA HA VARG U R Christian Church funder.

Hihi, yes, he is selling so many of "Dauði Baldrs." As I was saying, 50 øre as a top estimate.

"Illa Tiðandi" - uff da, real top ten single. XD

You see what I am meaning, though!

talkative sockpuppet is talkative

Ok!

Also, about the Einsatzgruppen arrested with (and other thing) 100,000kr, attempting collection of Vikernes from prison? Money supposed from his mother "Lene?"

He is not to be paying this, in some way. Sure.

ordo ad chao is the best mayhem record. sets a mood on the first track and remains compelling throughout each and every song. i always used to question the musical competency and integrity of this band, in particular its ability to create consistently focused and well-constructed songs. but this album is brilliant and extremely listenable. something i can't say about any of the others really. well maybe bits and pieces of the others.

What's wrong with De Mysteriis then? Pretty consistent and focused.

i guess i never really took to it so much. but you are right in identifying that era as one where the band were totally inspired and onsong. also 'from the dark past' is an incredible song, both on record and live. i guess my judgment is pretty heavily influenced by the maniac-led phase which never really seemed to stumble on anything really poignant and representative of the potential of the band.

Musically speaking, was Count Grisnakh of Burzum right to murder Euronymous of Mayhem?

wowwwwww that is undoubtedly the greatest first line of any thread ever!!!

it's not like garm battered euronymous to death with a big, novelty-sized styrofoam treble clef

shit not garm. varg

Musically speaking, the world would undoubtedly be better off if Garm would've been incarcerated for the last fifteen years instead of Varg.

this thread was gold

GARM

Mayhem were arrested in Holland for trashing a hotel room. ~$7000 in damage?

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/530/17274/Members-of-Mayhem-arrested.html

hotel rooms in holland are on average smaller than broom closets, can't actually hold 7k worth of paper currency let alone goods

In TILBURG of all places. Happily Attila wasn't among those taken into custody?

'The suspects remain tied to a compensation of the damage dealt.'

When I go to Roadburn next spring, I'm going to stay in that exact room.

This is one of the best threads on ILM.

The "Dear Vargy" letter had me in tears.

bubblegum pinkmetal.

Euronymous vs. Varg Vikernes?
Fake evil vs. true evil?

if it is fake evil vs. true evil obviously i am going to have to go with true.

but tho i have heard so little mayhem (deathcrush and the live album), they are totally way better than burzum musically i would say. they write real songs that are listenable, rather than epic, moody statements, like all burzum albums.

Black metal=fake evil
Murder and nazi sympathies=true evil

(Hopefully most black metal fans prefer the former)

were the posters really random googlers or just moley?

Musically speaking, was Count Grisnakh of Burzum right to murder Euronymous of Mayhem?

when dirty vicar is on form, he's first rate

Wasn't there a group that insisted a gypsy foretold that Euronymous had plans to kill Varg, making the killing "self-defense". lols

wow, this thread.

Mayhem's first record is pretty good, no?

De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is the classic, I have a soft spot for Deathcrush but it's a flawed fuggin' thing.

lol

http://www.thatsnotmetal.com/2012/03/news-that-matters-paint-norwegian.html

An airline in Norway, mysteriously named Norwegian Air Shuttle, is holding a vote online for people to choose their favorite popular Norwegian individual of cultural or historical importance. The person who gets the most votes will have their image immortalized on the tails of the airplanes to celebrate the company's 10th anniversary. Here's the company's description of the contest if you'd like more information:

"Her kan du blant annet stemme på en av kandidatene som en lokal nominasjonskomite bestående av: Fabian Stang (ordfører), Hans Edvardsen (Bymiljøetaten) og Lars Emil Hansen (Oslo Museum) har nominert. Komitemedlemmene er håndplukket basert på deres lokalkunnskap og engasjement. Se nedover på siden for flere nominerte kandidater. De fem kandidatene med flest stemmer etter at nominasjonsfasen er over, går videre til det endelige valget. Du kan avgi én stemme hver dag i hele nominasjonsfasen som varer frem til 28. mars kl. 23.59."

The late Øystein Aarseth, or as we all knew him, Euronymous of Mayhem, somehow made it onto the polls. The article I read about this on Gun Shy Assassin was posted two days ago, and at the time of that writing, Aarseth was in a bleak 23rd. At the time of this writing, he made it all the way to 5th place. The progress is staggering, and I want this to happen so bad now that I can taste the goat's blood.

To cast your vote, click http://www.halehelter.no/. The website isn't in English

lol make this happen

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gJTlI22JcCA/T24lDBWYP7I/AAAAAAAAAso/gxSkBysmvvI/s1600/19994.jpg

just click the heart to vote

Hah he's already in first place.

EURONYMOOSE