Bike Lanes, C/D?

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oh ok
only times i rode the lake path it was like 3am
and at that time it was nobody but me and the occasional drunk
i think i went really really fast

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Friday, 30 October 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah LFP at 3am is classic, don't get me wrong.

PS hey ilx urban cyclists, if yr city has light rail/streetcars, pay extra heed to the tracks. Last night I thought I was crossing the track at enough of a diagonal to make it over. I was not (also it was wet), the front wheel got caught in the tracks, and I now have some very lovely bruises and cuts.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 30 October 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh railroad tracks and grates were drummed into us by Dad from the beginning, esp in the rain. He pretty much made us pass a written exam about possible dangers before we were allowed on the streets. I don't think I cross any, ever, now.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Friday, 30 October 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

They're everywhere in downtown PDX, and it's always raining, so not crossing isn't really an option. I would have been fine if I'd been at more of an angle.

Gotta stop falling on the same side, though. My poor left leg is just covered in scrapes and bruises as of late.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 30 October 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, i always wipe out on the left, it's weird!

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

really?. some edits for brevity-

In Stone’s rebuttal, she laid out an allegory of sorts, re-telling the three Mandeville Canyon incidents the prosecution presented during the trial.

She’s... at Trader Joe’s. Someone, she said, “is in my aisle, blocking me from my granola. So I blast his nose with a baseball bat.”

“But of course, I get arrested.”

Then, donning a white doctor’s coat, she said, “But I shroud myself in this because I want to deflect what I did.”

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i like that metaphor

cutty, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I WANT MY GRANOLA

cutty, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i like it too, and... swinging a real bat? a lab coat? neither of which are real evidence?

NITA shit is never that fun.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure the defense attorney who wrote ACCIDENT on an overhead projector thought he was being clever. then bitch shows up with a bat and a lab coat.

cutty, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

what is NITA

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

trial advocacy training program for attorneys

cutty, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"national institute for trial advocacy"

cutty, Friday, 30 October 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

then bitch shows up with a bat and a lab coat.

true lols

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Friday, 30 October 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope that dude gets what's coming to him

jØrdån (omar little), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, i know this is obv and all, but i'm pretty blown away by the fact that this dude is an ER doc

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

super aggro king of the universe dude is...a doctor? say it ain't so

;-)

goole, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna stop my car in front of u

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

take a picture

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon level withme, whenever u have a teacher who makes some noise about "you are all to be healers" or w/e, there's a cohort of dudes in the back rolling their damn eyes and making jerky-offy motions

goole, Friday, 30 October 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

oh totally!

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

they're all gonna be surgeons, tho

how rad bandit (gbx), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

^real talk

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 30 October 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf is up w/cars passing u w/in 1-2 feet when the other lane is clear for miles ahead

coz (webinar), Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

passive-aggressive assholes

jØrdån (omar little), Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

See I much prefer that to when cars swerve halfway into the other lane to give me a wide berth. Feels like an excellent way to get into a car accident, debris from which will surely fly out and decapatate me.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm still trying to get over my fear of biking at night around here, i known how many folks drive buzzed or drunk in l.a. and i always assume one of these days i'm gonna get clipped by someone who drifts to the right.

jØrdån (omar little), Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

See I much prefer that to when cars swerve halfway into the other lane to give me a wide berth.

yeah but i try to be positive to anyone who shows me consideration, even if it is unnecessary or irritating. for instance, NOT passing me when it is completely reasonable for them to do so. they just follow and follow and follow, and OH JUST. FUCKING. PASS. ME, PLEASE. then i think, this fool is trying to do the right thing and is probly annoyed at me. i'll even pull over for them and try to be happy about it.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Saturday, 31 October 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ i am trying to do this more.

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 31 October 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

It really is worth doing this if you can, I think, especially if you've just had an encounter which has left you fuming. The problem is, that if you are fuming, you are more likely to ride dangerously (at least I am). Trying to catch up with people who've done something stupid to shout 'oi!' (or worse) at them, shooting lights to get away from an altercation because you're so pumped. You stop thinking about the road because you're so busy thinking about the asshole who tried to shit you up.

Letting someone go over at a pedestrian crossing, waving at a car that doesn't pull out in front of you when it might have, I find helps restore some equilibrium and refocuses me on the road and sensible ideas of shared space.

Aggression on the road makes things less safe for everyone - and not necessarily in just the obvious ways. A driver threatened to kill me recently, after having smashed my face in, it seems, for having had the temerity (and good sense) not to ride in the gutter but in the middle of the lane, as one should if there isn't space for a car to pass safely. Anyway, at the next lights, I thought he was going to get out of his car and carry out of his threats, so instead of queuing safely, I had to filter down a narrow gap on the inside of a bus, a dangerous manoeuvre I would not have otherwise performed.

I was shaking and not really focused on what I was doing. Fortunately all was well, but that sort of behaviour, whether by cyclists or drivers, should be avoided at all costs. Of course, you're going to shout vile names at someone you feel has endangered you, but it's worth returning to as much of a state of zen like calm as quickly possible.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Saturday, 31 October 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Guilty.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 November 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

fantastic

jØrdån (omar little), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

No bail.

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

saw this on cyclingtipsblog o_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPtA3Ng6-n8

coz (webinar), Saturday, 7 November 2009 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

^^baffling

saw a new bike lane downtown

traffic  |  parking  |  bike lane  |  sidewalk

i like the idea in principal, but i feel like the dooring potential has skyrocketed.

how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

thats what is going on in NYC

cutty, Sunday, 8 November 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/IMG_0199-bike-lane_1.jpg

this is the ideal execution of that idea imo, this is from copenhagen.

jØrdån (omar little), Sunday, 8 November 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

there's one major copenhagen-style lane in melbourne that i use sometimes. my main observations:

  • it goes past a major university on one side and you get idiot students milling around in the bike lane part like it's part of the footpath.
  • pedestrians tend to stroll out into the bike lane without looking - they only switch to 'danger!' mode when cars are involved.
  • quite thick concrete reservation area between the bike lane and the car parks, where they exist, makes it really hard to get doored, which is a plus.

BARRY ROUBAIX (haitch), Sunday, 8 November 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

pedestrians tend to stroll out into the bike lane without looking - they only switch to 'danger!' mode when cars are involved.

god, yes! almost ran some fool over yesterday for this exact same reason.

also what is up with cars overtaking you just so that they can cut across you inside ten yards? again almost ran into the side of a car yesterday who overtook me so she could get access to her driveway 10 metres in front of me. had to slam the brakes hard

coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link

also what is up with cars overtaking you just so that they can cut across you inside ten yards?

This happens all the bloody time. With buses as well. Overtaking you and immediately pulling into the bus stop in front of you.

That Copenhagen lane does look nice, but as haitch pointed out, pedestrians do seem to mill into it fairly frequently. I'm not sure I really blame them, nobody's really switched on for it, which suggests slightly counterintuitive design.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Sunday, 8 November 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

coming from a city where the bike lane is a three foot wide strip running between parked cars and the street, demarcated by a sometimes barely visible pair of lines, that looks ideal. i can see how pedestrians would mill about but it looks to be so much more ideal and i think with a few tweaks in safety measures it would be perfect.

jØrdån (omar little), Sunday, 8 November 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

munich bike lanes are like that too. it works well, but i think the bike lanes and pedestrian lanes could afford to be a little bit more visually distinct, perhaps seperated by a low curb like in copenhagen.

caek, Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

what is the country that clearly and distinctly paints bike lanes red (i think?)

kudos

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

britain?

caek, Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Portland paints em green I think? So does Chi in some areas

how rad bandit (gbx), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

nyc green now

cutty, Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

mix of green lanes and red lanes in glasgow

coz (webinar), Sunday, 8 November 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

PDX has a few randomly interspersed green boxes, and their adjoining lanes are green, but that's it, they're mostly just standard-issue US bike lanes, just more of them.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Love seeing those euro lanes in part because they look like you'd feel fucking ridiculous pulling some urban-bike-warrior bullshit in them, whereas a lot of the lanes here feel like said bullshit is neccessary for survival.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

also what is up with cars overtaking you just so that they can cut across you inside ten yards?

Yeah, this. Have clipped someone's bumper w my front tire before, can't believe I didn't eat it. Special place in hell for these people because it's so UNNECESSARY.

I would feel confident if I dated her because I am older than (Laurel), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link


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