Grand Theft Auto IV -- It might feature crime and prostitutes.

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the best prefab sprout song imo

can't wait to be driving through liberty city listening to Hue and Cry.

driving through liberty city listening to Hue and Cry

I'm gonna end up buying this on disc despite having L&D, so I can get the extra radio station and not have to cripple my 20gb hard drive earlier

early adopters gettin fuccccked

earlier = further

oh this is so great. i'm mostly ignoring the missions in favour of driving around listening to sister sledge and candi staton.

this has me wondering, how much would an act get paid for having their song used in the game? seems like a bargain to have so many incredible songs to listen to AS WELL AS an awesome game, for only £15 or so. maybe the licensing wouldn't cost much though, i can imagine acts being keen to waive the fee just to have their music on there. does anyone know the details of ths?

xpost woah, the disc version has extra songs?!

ha, there are mentions of vice city in the story and the cameos are great

One thing driving me crazy about L&D (just playing it now) is how fucking USELESS the bikes are in a police chase.

-they can shoot you off the bike
-they can ram you off the bike
-the bike corners for shit
-the bike can't ram through barriers
-I don't like the bike
-Why do I have to use the bike

Yeah, but that's where knowing which alleys to shoot through is pretty helpful.

i much preferred the racing sidegames in L&D. the beauty of bikes is that they're nimble and can slip through gaps easier (the zippier ones anyway, not the lumbering hells angels ones)

I heard the bikes control better in TLaD? I haven't played it yet tho

explosive armour piercing snipers rifle in TBOGT is off the hook

yeah bikes handle much better then cars. you can get through traffic and alleys easier. they also made it harder to fly off the handle bars. the real bullshit is when a cop shoots out your tire.

I didn't even realise but apparently these radio stations have been cut from the disc version

Fusion FM
IF99 – International Funk
JNR – Jazz Nation Radio
The Journey
Tuff Gong Radio
The Vibe 98.8

the journey!!! :(:(:(:(

mori and yusef are fkn hilarious, as are tony and evan

a-rab money!

wtf the journey rules

xxxpost what's going on with the radio? so the disc version has all those stations missing but a bunch of extra songs? there's no way on earth i could put up with not having the vibe. fusion, IF, jazz & journey too, all pretty much essential.

Is the extra Mondeo Pop station on the disc worth losing half the best original stations for? I haven't finished GTA so I can always go back and listen to those ones during my six monthly chunk of main game but I'unno man

It really needs like Go West and Robert Palmer

I know I'm a bit late to the party on this but I am LOVING Lost & Damned. I'm loving just grinding side quests, which I never liked doing on GTA4. Best game starring a Jewish biker I've played this year.

the sidequests on both the DLCs are brilliant, much better than the main game car-stealing ones. i'm spending all my time on drug wars on BOGT at the moment, leaving the main plot til i've done these.

hang on, so they changed the name of this latest DLC?

ya it's now called the ballad of straight tony

Both DLCs + GTA4 = the game I wanted GTA4 to be in the first place

so for the record, the best version of Lost and Damned is the DLC version, though they put in a new radio station to make up for it?

There are a few new radio stations, guys-- Self-Actualization is a trancey techno station like The Journey (I thought it'd be a new-age talk station) and there's a new hip-hop station, and the rock station has all new songs and all new Iggy.

Just started TBOGT and I got back in the Liberty City ZONE for the first time in forever (didn't get L&D) - kickin' it on a bike, cruising round and listening to Smashing Pumpkins' 1979 - when it ground to a halt with "unable to read disc". Totally harshed my buzz ;_;

The addition of nitro has RUINED the online racing.

Also disappointed there are no new co-op missions that i can grind to get my ranking up. Although given that bronze to silver takes as much money as n00b to bronze, and it took me a couple of unemployed months to get that far, chances would be slim anyway.

Damn the L&D multiplayer modes look pretty good, maybe I should get that too.

racing in L& D is fantastic.

i haven't played a single deathmatch/race in TBOGT, and i haven't really played more than the first couple of missions either; i just seem to spend all my (admittedly limited) time on the xbox dicking about in online free mode, stealing helicopters and being blitzed by helicopters.

I love both these chapters like I love a milkshake. More of this in the next standalone GTA pls! Less mandatory man-dates and drudgery and inviting people out on a date and then shooting them in the head

Would still like more of the sideshow stuff that was in previous incarnations - stock car racing, trials bike courses in the junkyard, etc.

Yes. And more stores, or at least have stores that sell different things. The thing is it seems like R* doesn't allow you to do anything that the character wouldn't do-- semi-pro dirtbike racing, pizza delivery, etc. You know what would be cool is if you had a much longer story arc for some fun-loving Elmore Leonard antihero style criminal in the midwest or something who starts off small-time as a teenager, boosting cars and maybe a little armed robbery but mostly doing it because he loves fun and doesn't want a real job-- but he also does shit on the side for fun like racing and stuntdriving and wheelman shit-- and he gets more and more involved in serious crime as he gets older, and the story gets darker and darker, until he's like Val Kilmer in Heat.

yeah the current style of "i'm just an easygoing guy trying to get by - oh hey mr crazy guy i've never met before, sure i'll blow up a boat full of arms dealers for you" is a little o_O

immigrants eh? tsk

some of the characterization in TBOGT are wacked. you deal with this Mori dude who's basically the same character as Brucie. except, he's Brucie's (older?) brother. and Brucie himself is totally pussified, but learns to deal with his bullying brother. except this story takes place at the same time as the main arc. it doesn't make any sense. this bugged this shit out of me tbh.

that was brucie?! shit. i was trying to cook sausages at the same time as that cutscene was playing tho.

my fave wish for GTAV: chicago, but taking place in -- get this -- two different times!! the old godfather trick. two difft versions of the same city, one in the 20s, one today, and you flip back and forth at difft times, one as your own grandfather, and decisions you make in the past can affect things in the present. fuckin awesome, huh.

xp yeah, no sense at all.

that is AMAZING idea!

Damn the L&D multiplayer modes look pretty good, maybe I should get that too.

The best one is chopper vs. chopper, but unfortunately no one ever seems to play it.

knees a trembling - getting 360 + all this tonight !!

You forgot the sum of that equation

lol the man at toys r us tried to convince me that the Stories of Liberty City on xbox360 was a direct port of the old PSP Liberty City Stories. I think my sister was shocked that i never punched him in the stomach.

Anyway, like these. not played too much LATD due to hating bikes in gta4 anyway but seems fun. Both of these have far more enjoyable missions already than most of gta4's original story.

some decent new vehicles in BOGT, especially like the Buffalo. Club management is slightly remedial I thought. But HA, Air Hockey!

will waffle on much more when not posting from work..

(also got CODwarfare2 and bionic commandos with my 360 bundle)

Man if someone had told me L&D was all about the bikes i'd have been on it like sonic.

And now they have. And now I can be.

yeah you get some kind of points for riding in proper formation and everything, if you like that sort of thing.